Who think's Valve should buy Epic games; and stand up for steam.

[flying_night_slasher]

This discussion is for the big fan's of steam and don't want multiple account's in different game store's;and think Valve should buy Epic games before Epic games get's more money than Valve.

[Trundle]

Danksama eredeti hozzászólása:

Nah

[TheRandomGuy]

Hannah Montana eredeti hozzászólása:

toaster eredeti hozzászólása:

elon musk should buy epic games instead so then he can delete it

Elon & Tesla are in bad shape but that's another topic. Apple is sitting on a ton of cash. They need to do something about getting into the video game industry because they are losing out big league. It's too bad Apple is so insistent on having their own operating systems.

Apple has already shot themselves in the foot with trying to make Mac OSX a gaming platform. For one, their products are high price but don't have high end hardware. Secondly, Apple recently deprecated Vulkan on their platform in favor of their own Metal graphics API, meaning that for developers it's another language to learn and hinders compatibility, not to mention that if they used Vulkan it'd be easier on all parties involved since devs could just code both Windows and Mac versions in Vulkan as it's multiplatform and call it a day there, but Apple had to be Apple and do their own thing.

Also I doubt anyone could outright buy Epic at this point. It'd be a better idea to buy shares up to a point at which you have a large amount of sway within the company, basically do what Tencent did.

[SMIFFY]

TheRandomGuy eredeti hozzászólása:

Also I doubt anyone could outright buy Epic at this point. It'd be a better idea to buy shares up to a point at which you have a large amount of sway within the company, basically do what Tencent did.

How? It's a private company.

[secuda]

You know people who are against exclusivity and still want one account for their games is kinda hilarious though.

[Mikasa Ackerman]

i think the right move for valve is to do nothing , let epic throw around cash for temporary exclusivity , the devs will see how well that goes , only making money because the store gives them money in advance and later pays the money they didnt get from customers

the moment fortnite dies , which could already happen now thanks to apex legends , the store dies , so valve doesnt need to do anything

[Amuro0079]

SMIFFY eredeti hozzászólása:

TheRandomGuy eredeti hozzászólása:

Also I doubt anyone could outright buy Epic at this point. It'd be a better idea to buy shares up to a point at which you have a large amount of sway within the company, basically do what Tencent did.

How? It's a private company.

Through business deals, invest money in it and ask for a percentage of the shares. It's like how you invest in new tech start-ups.

Prowler eredeti hozzászólása:

Plaid eredeti hozzászólása:

Where are you getting your numbers? I ask because I can't find anything past 2012 for Valve, except for one article from 2 years ago which focuses on the wealth of Gabe Newell alone (which was 5.5 billion, I think).

Analysts are pretty good at coming up with estimates based on several factors. For people like Tim Sweeney and Gabe Newell, a large part of their worth is being at least 51% owners of their respective companies, so if Epic is worth almost 15 billion, then Tim Sweeney's worth would be almost 7.5 billion. If Valve is worth a little more than 8 billion, than Gabe Newells worth is a little over 4 billion.

https://www.pcgamer.com/epic-boss-tim-sweeney-is-worth-nearly-dollar3-billion-more-than-gabe-newell-according-to-bloomberg/

That would put Epic even above EA's reach, who's total assets is 8.58 billion with a total equity of 4.60 billion.

[ᑓᑌᑎᕬ]

So the "savior" of Steam would be ... Origin? How ... ironic. :D

[Ganger]

Sakura Haruno eredeti hozzászólása:

i think the right move for valve is to do nothing , let epic throw around cash for temporary exclusivity , the devs will see how well that goes , only making money because the store gives them money in advance and later pays the money they didnt get from customers

the moment fortnite dies , which could already happen now thanks to apex legends , the store dies , so valve doesnt need to do anything

Worst advice you could give to valve. Valve is losing AAA+ devs, EA were the first, bethesda, activision and now ubisoft, who is next to leave. Soon steam will be a platform for early access and indy devs and even some of theses are thinking of jumping ship.

And believing gamers aren't going to other launchers to purchase games because steam forums and some youtube channels say so is very native to say the least. Gamers go were the games are...

Valve now need to step up and get these big devs on board again, if needed, paid them in advance like epic did with metro. I don't know the ins and outs of the 12% vs 30% cut but if these devs are like the business I work in then, money talks and the 12% will always win.

I love steam, its my first choice for games, but valve has been sitting on the fence for too long now, were is HL3, L4D3 etc, were are the new game engines for games, why haven't valve bought some studios, why oh why

[Mikasa Ackerman]

Ganger eredeti hozzászólása:

Sakura Haruno eredeti hozzászólása:

i think the right move for valve is to do nothing , let epic throw around cash for temporary exclusivity , the devs will see how well that goes , only making money because the store gives them money in advance and later pays the money they didnt get from customers

the moment fortnite dies , which could already happen now thanks to apex legends , the store dies , so valve doesnt need to do anything

Worst advice you could give to valve. Valve is losing AAA+ devs, EA were the first, bethesda, activision and now ubisoft, who is next to leave. Soon steam will be a platform for early access and indy devs and even some of theses are thinking of jumping ship.

And believing gamers aren't going to other launchers to purchase games because steam forums and some youtube channels say so is very native to say the least. Gamers go were the games are...

Valve now need to step up and get these big devs on board again, if needed, paid them in advance like epic did with metro. I don't know the ins and outs of the 12% vs 30% cut but if these devs are like the business I work in then, money talks and the 12% will always win.

I love steam, its my first choice for games, but valve has been sitting on the fence for too long now, were is HL3, L4D3 etc, were are the new game engines for games, why haven't valve bought some studios, why oh why

EA has their own store , and they had it since i can remember , and no , if you believe gamers go where games are , then you are very very naive , i am the person with the money , you come to me if you want to sell your product to me its the same with shops , theres a local retrogames shop called anigame , it used to be in some small sidestreet where most didnt find it , so it moved to a main street where a tram drives through and is close to the central transfer point of the town

and somehow i can tell you arent in a high position in your business , 88% of 1.000.000 gets beaten by 70% of 10.000.000 any day

if someone releases a game like celeste , meatboy , tein and co i will buy it the moment i hear about it , i love brutal platformers , but if its not on steam i wont hear about it and i wont just be able to buy it by selling a few tf2 keys from my inventory to buy it

valve doesnt need to make half life 3 if they dont want to , i dont get why people wont accept it and instead cry that they dont get a half life 3 and therefor valve is evil , go buy an xbox and cry that microsoft doesnt make good games , they wont care either , and so far , epic hasnt made any good games , instead they cried that pc gamers are meanies a few years ago and stopped putting their games on pc and instead went xbox because xbots buy anything thats exclusive because they are starved of games

[SMIFFY]

Why do people talk about HL3 anyway? HL2 hasn't even been concluded.

[The Rock God]

Microsoft should buy EA, Activision, Ubisoft, Epic, Valve, etc.
Then all you would need is your Xbox login for every game. Can't beat that.

[(N☆G) Jackal ★JJ★]

Real talk with how much money Epic games has made off of mircotransactions I dont think Steam could afford to buy them out even if it was franchised. Epic made $3 BILLION PROFIT off of Fornite in 2018.... I mean.... Steam makes a lot but even a billion dollar company can't really buy out another billion dollar company.

[Trundle]

https://hothardware.com/news/research-suggests-fortnite-may-have-peaked-as-revenue-slides

[strumful emotional]

you know as a company you can't just buy another one like that? There is no reason for valve to do that, it's just impractical and would cause controversy.

[DarkCrystalMethod]

Give us the freeman... on all pc platforms... and repay the debt