Anthem's troubled development and BioWare's future

[Agent Panda]

https://kotaku.com/how-biowares-anthem-went-wrong-1833731964
Its a lengthy article so beware in adacance

It's so painful to see how much they have fallen from grace. Just like Bungie, they had a lots and lots of respect from the community and now they are becoming just another lying and deceiving corporate.

Is this the future? How long do you think CDPR too will follow the same path?

[SMIFFY]

Publicado originalmente por Legend1466:

>EPIC, EA, Bethesda and BioWare are all in America where corruption reigns

Coincedence? I think not.
Bless european game developers... at least if they don't copy USA and do own ideas instead

Ubisoft

[iza]

Publicado originalmente por Xautos:

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=942924
something a year ago, with context provided in that thread and the article linked, apparently iza can't be bothered to do anything but argue.

a) misleading
b) the article is about Anthem, not SW: TOR.

Of couse I don't do the research, since YOU are throwing out some bs., which you STILL do.

Imagine you're a culprit and YOU have to prove that you DID NOT do it, although the other side has NO evidence OR any source that you could be related to the crime. Like come on, use one or two braincells now. You know you're not in the position to call me out here.

[SMIFFY]

iza has a point.

[Xautos]

Publicado originalmente por iza:

Publicado originalmente por Xautos:

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=942924
something a year ago, with context provided in that thread and the article linked, apparently iza can't be bothered to do anything but argue.

a) misleading
b) the article is about Anthem, not SW: TOR.

Of couse I don't do the research, since YOU are throwing out some bs., which you STILL do.

Imagine you're a culprit and YOU have to prove that you DID NOT do it, although the other side has NO evidence OR any source that you could be related to this. Like come on, use one or two braincells now. You know you're not in the position to call me out here.

you're not even reading it.. i'm done until you decide to read it. all of it.

[AustrAlien2010]

Look. It´s just a company name. Employees come and go. It makes no sense to worry about that. They just want your money. None of you have any points. You´re simply arguing and calling each other names over some article some jackass wrote.

[76561198822506496]

Publicado originalmente por Xautos:

Publicado originalmente por iza:

a) misleading
b) the article is about Anthem, not SW: TOR.

Of couse I don't do the research, since YOU are throwing out some bs., which you STILL do.

Imagine you're a culprit and YOU have to prove that you DID NOT do it, although the other side has NO evidence OR any source that you could be related to this. Like come on, use one or two braincells now. You know you're not in the position to call me out here.

you're not even reading it.. i'm done until you decide to read it. all of it.

What the ♥♥♥♥ am I supposed to be seeing? Is there a code exposing Kotaku as Nazis hidden on the page but only visible if I piss on my phone?

[Xautos]

Publicado originalmente por SMIFFY:

iza has a point.

what point? the point iza read through 65 pages of a thread and the entire article?
what point did i say there was no context? oh wait, i'm talking bs... what a load.

[iza]

Publicado originalmente por big ♥♥♥♥♥♥:

Publicado originalmente por Xautos:

you're not even reading it.. i'm done until you decide to read it. all of it.

What the ♥♥♥♥ am I supposed to be seeing? Is there a code exposing Kotaku as Nazis hidden on the page but only visible if I piss on my phone?

It's useless.

A simple Straw Man Argument is going to get me out of here because this is a waste of time.

Publicado originalmente por Xautos:

Publicado originalmente por SMIFFY:

iza has a point.

what point? the point iza read through 65 pages of a thread and the entire article?
what point did i say there was no context? oh wait, i'm talking bs... what a load.

Why don't you read the 65 pages and point me to the "the last time they tried to sell a story on a bioware game it was completely fabricated." point. Protip: you can't.

[AdahnGorion]

What is Anthem?

On a serious note.

Bioware died long long ago, they are merely a brand used as a bait. They are forced into making games that does not really suit them nor anything they have a interest in.
The fact is that its merely some of the bigger publishers trying to fight for the teen crowd that liked those simplistic games.. If Bioware actually made a proper RPG, then chances would be that it might sell just as might, might even sell less (since the massive amounts of kids play those other types of games) but they would get loyal fanbase and good will, something that eventually would keep them having players and not kids that flock to whatever is popular atm.

[Chemistara]

This is why I'm sticking to Team Shanghai Alice and Taleworlds

[eram]

Publicado originalmente por AustrAlien2010:

Look. It´s just a company name. Employees come and go. It makes no sense to worry about that. They just want your money. None of you have any points. You´re simply arguing and calling each other names over some article some jackass wrote.

Unfortunately this part is correct. The bioware we knew and loved are not the same people 6 years later, not even close. It wasn't an EA issue this was just down to mismanagement, bad management and too many indecisive meetings. Years of doing nothing then 18 months of development at the end.

[iza]

Publicado originalmente por eram:

Publicado originalmente por AustrAlien2010:

Look. It´s just a company name. Employees come and go. It makes no sense to worry about that. They just want your money. None of you have any points. You´re simply arguing and calling each other names over some article some jackass wrote.

Unfortunately this part is correct. The bioware we knew and loved are not the same people 6 years later, not even close. It wasn't an EA issue this was just down to mismanagement, bad management and too many indecisive meetings. Years of doing nothing then 18 months of development at the end.

What I literally said.