60hz Monitors

[Damian]

How the F people play on 60hz Monitors?
It feels so bad... I move my mouse and it feels like a 1s delay.
FPS games on 60hz monitors are unplayable.

[Damian]

Revelene eredeti hozzászólása:

While I definitely enjoy high refresh rates and frame rates on my PC, that does not make low refresh rate and frames rates unplayable.

I happily play on the Nintendo Switch as well and my favorite game on there is Breath of the Wild, running at an "unplayable" 30 FPS on a 60hz screen.

There is a difference but not a difference that ruins playability. That would be like comparison of a Bugatti and a Civic... That Civic is just undrivable, right?

I see you don't understand it, some people don't play like casuals falling asleep while playing with slower reflexes than their grandma.
Your comparison is fundamentaly wrong, it's not about "will it run? / can I play with 60hz?", yes it will run and play.
But when you let race your Civic vs the Bugatti, it will become something different.
I'm not playing Sims or Skyline Cities where even 30Fps 60Hz are awesome, we're talking about competitive gaming where you give your best to make your team win. If it's tryharding or competitive, 60Hz is such a cap for your skill.
People used to accuse me of hacking, with 60Hz it's more like sleeping not playing.

[Damian]

talemore eredeti hozzászólása:

You can't reduce a screen from 240hz to 60hz. It must be a screen who is designed to run at 60.

It's pretty easy:
1. Right click on your desktop.
2. Choose "Display Settings" (second from the bottom.)
3. A window will pop up and then in the content section at the bottom, you will see "Advanced Display Settings", click it.
4. Choose your monitor and click at the "Adapter settings for display XY" or something like that.
5. A new window will open and choose the "Monitor" (The middle one) tab.
Here you can select your refreshrate. The GPU is able to set the refresh rate, if it wouldn't be possible, then Free/G-Sync wouldn't exist.

You don't know enough to become loud here my dear friend.

[Damian]

Revelene eredeti hozzászólása:

Connoisseur of Tanqueray eredeti hozzászólása:

This argument again. All this does is start arguments i don't see why the mods leave it up.

How dare people have different opinions and talk about it on a discussion board.

Yeah, what's the point of this whole Community tab when people can't have their opinions, arguments and discussions? Many kids and teens ain't intelligent enough to understand "Community" and the reason why communities, threads, posts exist.

[Damian]

Miss Ann Thrope eredeti hozzászólása:

Fajita Jim eredeti hozzászólása:

I remember back in the CRT days I'd go fix/uncrapify some random persons PC and they'd have their screen at 60hz. It was like daggers in my eyes.

I played at 60Hz (or less) for most of my gaming life, on CRT monitors. I guess I got used to it.

Many CRTs run at 85Hz and CRTs are faster than LCDs.
We had 120hz already with CRTs, Sony FW900 ? or something like that could be overclocked to 120hz+.
I would rather have a 1080p60hz CRT than a 1080p60hz LCD monitor.

[SMIFFY]

Squirrel Master eredeti hozzászólása:

going off OP topic and not bothered to read the rest of the thread where op probably starts talking about strictly fps competitive games while being condescending namecalling jerk to anyone who disagrees with his "argument".

You mean the exact reason OP created this thread in the first place?

[Tuki]

Because I´m still poor and I don´t have a choice? meh at least now I can play at stable 60 fps, worse is having lag spikes and frame spikes.

[Autumn_]

Squirrel Master eredeti hozzászólása:

i play on 60hz monitor no issues whatsoever. sounds like you have a problemop . sucks to be you i guess.

going off OP topic and not bothered to read the rest of the thread where op probably starts talking about strictly fps competitive games while being condescending namecalling jerk to anyone who disagrees with his "argument".

Yeah, it's fine while you're on it, I was like that.
'''I DON'T NEED MORE THAN 60HZ!!! IT'S PERFECTLY FINE!!!''
Then I bought a 144-165hz monitor. And damn, 60hz looks like 15-30fps compared to it.
It's a literal slideshow.

[L7vanmatre]

Autumn eredeti hozzászólása:

Squirrel Master eredeti hozzászólása:

i play on 60hz monitor no issues whatsoever. sounds like you have a problemop . sucks to be you i guess.

going off OP topic and not bothered to read the rest of the thread where op probably starts talking about strictly fps competitive games while being condescending namecalling jerk to anyone who disagrees with his "argument".

Yeah, it's fine while you're on it, I was like that.
'''I DON'T NEED MORE THAN 60HZ!!! IT'S PERFECTLY FINE!!!''
Then I bought a 144-165hz monitor. And damn, 60hz looks like 15-30fps compared to it.
It's a literal slideshow.

I have a 120Hz monitor that'll be 144Hz once I get a DP cable. As far as I see, I don't really mind it. I prefer typing on the 120Hz a lot more, but I can still do stuff on the 60. I notice the difference, but to be fair, I've always seen the skipping on 60Hz screens my entire life. Now it's just more apparent.

I don't know. Maybe I just need to dedicate a year to solely 144Hz before it'd bother me or something.

[Tuki]

Squirrel Master eredeti hozzászólása:

eventually when 365hz monitors are a thing there'll be posts about how crappy 144hz monitors are crap.

the future of gaming is 365hz

or maybe VR makes monitors obsolete

[The Rock God]

Funnily enough, I have found myself using a 60 Hz monitor I just got last week.
I couldn't justify spending $2K to get a 120 or 144 Hz monitor. Now I have slight, but noticeable, screen tearing in some of my games.

[Revelene]

G1K777 eredeti hozzászólása:

Revelene eredeti hozzászólása:

While I definitely enjoy high refresh rates and frame rates on my PC, that does not make low refresh rate and frames rates unplayable.

I happily play on the Nintendo Switch as well and my favorite game on there is Breath of the Wild, running at an "unplayable" 30 FPS on a 60hz screen.

There is a difference but not a difference that ruins playability. That would be like comparison of a Bugatti and a Civic... That Civic is just undrivable, right?

I see you don't understand it, some people don't play like casuals falling asleep while playing with slower reflexes than their grandma.
Your comparison is fundamentaly wrong, it's not about "will it run? / can I play with 60hz?", yes it will run and play.
But when you let race your Civic vs the Bugatti, it will become something different.
I'm not playing Sims or Skyline Cities where even 30Fps 60Hz are awesome, we're talking about competitive gaming where you give your best to make your team win. If it's tryharding or competitive, 60Hz is such a cap for your skill.
People used to accuse me of hacking, with 60Hz it's more like sleeping not playing.

Well, sounds like you're taking video games too seriously, IMO.

My analogy was for playability, not competition. Unplayable and not good for competition are not the same thing.

[Damian]

Squirrel Master eredeti hozzászólása:

i play on 60hz monitor no issues whatsoever. sounds like you have a problemop . sucks to be you i guess.

going off OP topic and not bothered to read the rest of the thread where op probably starts talking about strictly fps competitive games while being condescending namecalling jerk to anyone who disagrees with his "argument".

Name me one competitive FPS player who plays on a 60Hz Monitor.

[Autumn_]

Squirrel Master eredeti hozzászólása:

Autumn eredeti hozzászólása:

Yeah, it's fine while you're on it, I was like that.
'''I DON'T NEED MORE THAN 60HZ!!! IT'S PERFECTLY FINE!!!''
Then I bought a 144-165hz monitor. And damn, 60hz looks like 15-30fps compared to it.
It's a literal slideshow.

then play on 144-165hz?

Did I say I wasn't?

L7vanmatre eredeti hozzászólása:

Autumn eredeti hozzászólása:

Yeah, it's fine while you're on it, I was like that.
'''I DON'T NEED MORE THAN 60HZ!!! IT'S PERFECTLY FINE!!!''
Then I bought a 144-165hz monitor. And damn, 60hz looks like 15-30fps compared to it.
It's a literal slideshow.

I have a 120Hz monitor that'll be 144Hz once I get a DP cable. As far as I see, I don't really mind it. I prefer typing on the 120Hz a lot more, but I can still do stuff on the 60. I notice the difference, but to be fair, I've always seen the skipping on 60Hz screens my entire life. Now it's just more apparent.

I don't know. Maybe I just need to dedicate a year to solely 144Hz before it'd bother me or something.

120hz is still twice as good as 60hz )
Yeah, you can still do stuff on 60hz, but if you're given the choice, you'd pick the 120hz monitor 10/10 times.

Squirrel Master eredeti hozzászólása:

eventually when 365hz monitors are a thing there'll be posts about how crappy 144hz monitors are.

the future of gaming is 365hz

I know it's a joke and bait, but I'll reply anyway.
There is little difference between 240hz and '''365hz''' (1.4ms), whereas the difference between 60hz and 144hz is 9.4ms.
(And the difference of 144hz vs 240hz is 2.8ms.)

So there wouldn't be as much of an increase as you'd think.
Big number doesn't mean big change.

Also, iirc, a human (eye) can't really notice anything below 4-5ms difference.

[Autumn_]

The Rock God eredeti hozzászólása:

Funnily enough, I have found myself using a 60 Hz monitor I just got last week.
I couldn't justify spending $2K to get a 120 or 144 Hz monitor. Now I have slight, but noticeable, screen tearing in some of my games.

Where the ♥♥♥♥ do you live to get a 120-144hz monitor for 2 grand???
I got my 1440p165hzG-sync monitor for 420 quid....
You can get 1080p144hz monitors for half that.

Foxcopter eredeti hozzászólása:

Squirrel Master eredeti hozzászólása:

eventually when 365hz monitors are a thing there'll be posts about how crappy 144hz monitors are crap.

the future of gaming is 365hz

or maybe VR makes monitors obsolete

VR may replace monitors, be we're A LONG LONG time away from that.

[Damian]

The Rock God eredeti hozzászólása:

Funnily enough, I have found myself using a 60 Hz monitor I just got last week.
I couldn't justify spending $2K to get a 120 or 144 Hz monitor. Now I have slight, but noticeable, screen tearing in some of my games.

$2K I assume it's a calibrated monitor for doing some graphical work?
If you paid 2K for a 60hz Monitor... yeah....