Was Kurt Cobain musically talented?

[2022]

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[crgzero]

No, if he hadn't of died he'd of drifted off Into nothingness with a few random hit songs being remembered. His death is the only thing that made him.

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Цитата допису Toast:

Цитата допису Azza ☠:

To figure out if a band has music talent or not, their live concert should be as good as their recorded songs, without faking.

You just eliminated almost the entire music industry with one supremely ignorant criteria. Do you have any idea about the kind of work involved in simply building a recording studio, let alone in actually producing recordings in one? Everything is meticulously controlled and manipulated to produce the best possible result. Everything.

Everything? Everything. Studio recordings aren't real. They're carefully engineered at every level. There is no way for a live performance to match up to that, no matter how good the musician(s) is/are.

If that's going to be your criteria, then I really hope you like orchestral music, because a lot of the recordings are done live in concert halls. But even then, there is still some audio engineering applied.

you are right, when I first started working in studio its unreal how much you have to fine tune every little piece until its perfect.

a lot of the time even live performances are not as "live" as they may seem, so much going on between the input and the output, they don't play directly into the speakers they go through a whole loop and filter system, at least thats what goes on with the big name tours.

[supine&golden]

All musicians are talebted to ppl who like em and probably untalented to ppl who don't care for their music so
It's as simple as that xD

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He was a famous musician signed by a major record label. If he wasn't good they wouldn't of signed him and told him to get lost. I also believe Courtney Love had a major hand in his death and it wasn't suicide.

[:Radithol]

He said it himself. He quoted the Neil Young line "It's better to burn out than to fade away" in his suicide note.

[Vectif]

Do I like some nirvana songs? Yes. Was he talented? Not at all, mediocre at best. (He's not bad, he could play, but so could you.)

Music isn't all about talent though, and that comes from someone who plays math rock, prog metal, and listens to IDM and breakcore - I like the more talented or effort put into music, but theres a lot of good sounding music that is actually very simple.

It's an art like any other, some people like something just cause, some like something with more effort or meaning put into it, some just like how it makes them feel, it's all different.

But in terms of skill, Cobain was mediocre at best, you could achieve the same skill in under a year, even more. A talented guitarrist I'd say is Tosin Abasi, but of course there are many more.

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Цитата допису :Radithol:

He said it himself. He quoted the Neil Young line "It's better to burn out than to fade away" in his suicide note.

The note was faked by Courteney love.

[Vectif]

Цитата допису Happy 4/20:

He was a famous musician signed by a major record label. If he wasn't good they wouldn't of signed him and told him to get lost. I also believe Courtney Love had a major hand in his death and it wasn't suicide.

Being signed or world known doesn't equal to talent or skill, it's just marketing. Pop music is really basic 90% of the time. Think of abstract art pieces being sold for millions, you think those take a lot of effort, or more than a hyperrealistic painting?

In art skill doesn't really matter unless you're an artist/musician yourself, or are very invested into it, so something being popular doesn't mean good.

A billion flies eat animal excrement, does that mean you should too?

Cheers.

[novasunshine]

Цитата допису Azza ☠:

Kurt Cobain played quite basic stuff with the guitar and lyric writing, but was musically talented, specially with his voice. People actually loved that, as they could follow it easily and sing along, etc. However, Kurt never thought he was talented himself and feel into a depression because of it.

"He's the one
Who like all our pretty songs
And he likes to sing along
And he likes to shoot his gun
But he don't know what it means
Don't know what it means"

Nirvana - In Bloom

Satisfied by the superficial. Such as the basic love from a dog when you throw it a bone and it thinks the world of you from it. Only issue was Kurt didn't understand that love was actually real and genuine, none the less.

This however then got to a point where they where told and even forced to fake it for the fans, in which he strongly disagreed towards. So he mocked that idea. Auto-tuning and backing tracks on live concepts was something he would never be able to accept.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzRAZ1uS-Ao

To figure out if a band has music talent or not, their live concert should be as good as their recorded songs, without faking.

i like to interpret th at excerpt of yours to be about the hipocrisy of the fans. i'd have to get political in order to elaborate though

[:Radithol]

Цитата допису Amenbreak:

Цитата допису Happy 4/20:

He was a famous musician signed by a major record label. If he wasn't good they wouldn't of signed him and told him to get lost. I also believe Courtney Love had a major hand in his death and it wasn't suicide.

Being signed or world known doesn't equal to talent or skill, it's just marketing. Pop music is really basic 90% of the time. Think of abstract art pieces being sold for millions, you think those take a lot of effort, or more than a hyperrealistic painting?

In art skill doesn't really matter unless you're an artist/musician yourself, or are very invested into it, so something being popular doesn't mean good.

A billion flies eat animal excrement, does that mean you should too?

Cheers.

Well said. Talent has absolutely nothing to do with getting a record deal. The proof is abundant.

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Цитата допису Amenbreak:

Цитата допису Happy 4/20:

He was a famous musician signed by a major record label. If he wasn't good they wouldn't of signed him and told him to get lost. I also believe Courtney Love had a major hand in his death and it wasn't suicide.

Being signed or world known doesn't equal to talent or skill, it's just marketing. Pop music is really basic 90% of the time. Think of abstract art pieces being sold for millions, you think those take a lot of effort, or more than a hyperrealistic painting?

In art skill doesn't really matter unless you're an artist/musician yourself, or are very invested into it, so something being popular doesn't mean good.

A billion flies eat animal excrement, does that mean you should too?

Cheers.

Yea but since there investing hundreds if not millions into a music artist they have to be good. They ain't going to sign someone who sings like a hurt cat.

Oh wait. I foroot we have the likes of lady gag gag and miley cyrus and taylor swit.

So yea I stand corrected as they have no singing or musical talent at all.

[:Radithol]

Цитата допису Happy 4/20:

Цитата допису :Radithol:

He said it himself. He quoted the Neil Young line "It's better to burn out than to fade away" in his suicide note.

The note was faked by Courteney love.

lol - ikr? If he had really committed suicide, he would have just gone to the edge of the earth, and hurled himself off the edge.

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Цитата допису :Radithol:

Цитата допису Happy 4/20:

The note was faked by Courteney love.

lol - ikr? If he had really committed suicide, he would have just gone to the edge of the earth, and hurled himself off the edge.

There is a lot of people who think she killed him for his money cause she was failing as an actress.

[RADKILLA[420]]

Yes very talented.(music sucks now compared to 80's and 90's.

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Цитата допису Paracelsus:

I don't know what his music is like so I can't really say.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTWKbfoikeg