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Was Kurt Cobain musically talented?
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Kruzible Feb 3, 2019 @ 8:35am 
Originally posted by Sir Dookface McFerretballs:
Originally posted by Nigaaaai:
Was Kurt Cobain musically talented?

Very!

He finished his career with two "hits" called "Toe on the trigger" and "Blast to the face".
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Commander Makara Feb 3, 2019 @ 8:54am 
I think there is a tendency for many people to misrepresent or misunderstand the definition of #talent# implying it's somehow related to a level of expertise.

Please be aware that "Talent" implies a natural aptitude, not being "good" nor even the extent of any ability.

From a very early age, Cobain had sophisticated ear for music and was strongly inspired artistically. This does suggest he possessed some talent. He was, however, not a great musician, but I (and others apparently) would consider his songwriting to be his fort€.

Originally posted by Count_Dandyman:
He was the second most talented member of Nirvana but a lot of his status as an icon comes from his death.
Arguably his status was already well in place from frequent media attention on his and Courtney's heroin habits and domestic violence. His death simply underlined what was well established.
Azza ☠ Feb 3, 2019 @ 8:56am 
Kurt Cobain played quite basic stuff with the guitar and lyric writing, but was musically talented, specially with his voice. People actually loved that, as they could follow it easily and sing along, etc. However, Kurt never thought he was talented himself and feel into a depression because of it.

"He's the one
Who like all our pretty songs
And he likes to sing along
And he likes to shoot his gun
But he don't know what it means
Don't know what it means"

Nirvana - In Bloom

Satisfied by the superficial. Such as the basic love from a dog when you throw it a bone and it thinks the world of you from it. Only issue was Kurt didn't understand that love was actually real and genuine, none the less.

This however then got to a point where they where told and even forced to fake it for the fans, in which he strongly disagreed towards. So he mocked that idea. Auto-tuning and backing tracks on live concepts was something he would never be able to accept.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzRAZ1uS-Ao

To figure out if a band has music talent or not, their live concert should be as good as their recorded songs, without faking.
Last edited by Azza ☠; Feb 3, 2019 @ 9:02am
psychotron666 Feb 3, 2019 @ 8:57am 
Mediocre. But he wasn't completely awful.
Funny enough though is he hated grunge music and didn't wanna do it anymore, but signed a contract to do more so he had to. Probably contributed to his suicidal thoughts (just do what Niel young and frank Zappa did when they were under contract they didn't want to be under,purposefully release ♥♥♥♥♥♥ albums til it was done)
psychotron666 Feb 3, 2019 @ 8:59am 
Originally posted by Sir Dookface McFerretballs:
Originally posted by Nigaaaai:
Was Kurt Cobain musically talented?

Very!

He finished his career with two "hits" called "Toe on the trigger" and "Blast to the face".

You don't need a toe on a trigger of a shotgun to blow your face off. His arms are adequately long enough to accomplish such a job.
Azza ☠ Feb 3, 2019 @ 9:12am 
Gees some people are messed up. Joking about a suicide / death, no respect for others.

I guess I did that with XXX, but that's because I assumed he faked it and predicted it, claiming he hopes to get fame from it. Still messed up now I think about it, if I'm wrong.

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One might be able to reproduce Cobain's songs note for note but find it difficult to produce the same effect as Kurt did, because Kurt was extremely honest with his songwriting and expression.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhcttcXcRYY

This is 'live', not pre-recorded, auto-tuned, or a played backing track over. That's how I justify music talent.

Another example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GF8AIcFkgM

Starting to see the picture? It's pretty simple to figure out the ones with actual talent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=624mRYF7LRg
Last edited by Azza ☠; Feb 3, 2019 @ 9:16am
ROFLpl0x Feb 3, 2019 @ 9:43am 
Kurt Cobain was a heroin junkie that knew how to play the guitar, nothing more and nothing less, and I guess he was subjectively good at turning his drug-addled ramblings into songs.

Was he talented? I guess, but so are a lot of janitors. When they get hooked on dope we just call them drug addicts, though. Musicians, nope, it's tragic and the inevitable consequence of being so talented and misunderstood. My poor heart just bleeds!

Gimme a break. Kurt Cobain was just your average trash in the right place at the right time and as replaceable as the stopper in your bathroom sink. The only thing "special" about him was the special treatment he got from the media and entertainment industry that made millions if not billions of dollars either from his music or by turning his pathetic life and death into entertainment.
Azza ☠ Feb 3, 2019 @ 9:46am 
Originally posted by ROFLwut?:
Kurt Cobain was a heroin junkie that knew how to play the guitar, nothing more and nothing less, and I guess he was subjectively good at turning his drug-addled ramblings into songs.

Was he talented? I guess, but so are a lot of janitors. When they get hooked on dope we just call them drug addicts, though. Musicians, nope, it's tragic and the inevitable consequence of being so talented and misunderstood. My poor heart just bleeds!

Gimme a break. Kurt Cobain was just your average trash in the right place at the right time and as replaceable as the stopper in your bathroom sink. The only thing "special" about him was the special treatment he got from the media and entertainment industry that made millions if not billions of dollars either from his music or by turning his pathetic life and death into entertainment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6hYe6FbA60

However, seriously, yeah lots of musicians / bands are under so much pressure and have enough money, they will probably get offered or involved in that.

Guns N Roses was the same deal, except Slash became a family man, gave up the drugs and even split away from the band for a point of time to avoid the drug abuse involved. He figured out it's a numb, rather than actual requirement. I strongly respect him for that.
Last edited by Azza ☠; Feb 3, 2019 @ 9:51am
talemore Feb 3, 2019 @ 9:47am 
Not really.
TJSlipperman Feb 3, 2019 @ 12:41pm 
I've never really been much of a Nirvana fan, and what talent Kurt had wasn't in the same league as such musical geniuses as Ian Anderson, Todd Rundgren, Keith Emerson or most any member of Yes (or even Andrew W.K. for that matter)...but he did have more talent than Beyonce, Bieber, Kanye and a lot of the other overrated hack performers we've got today.
Last edited by TJSlipperman; Feb 3, 2019 @ 12:43pm
Shiney Squirrels Feb 3, 2019 @ 12:42pm 
Short answer: No.

Long answer: Not at all.
ᑓᑌᑎᕬ Feb 3, 2019 @ 1:30pm 
Blasting his brains out doesn't make him a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ saint or the Messiah of Grunge.
Same goes for "The Crow". Just because Brandon Lee was shot on set doesn't make this move "awesome and one of the best".

Being dead doesn't make you famous or mystic. If it wasn't for the shotgun, it would have been the drugs.
Azza ☠ Feb 3, 2019 @ 1:37pm 
Originally posted by ᛋᚺᚨᚾᛞᛟᚱ:
Blasting his brains out doesn't make him a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ saint or the Messiah of Grunge.
Same goes for "The Crow". Just because Brandon Lee was shot on set doesn't make this move "awesome and one of the best".

Being dead doesn't make you famous or mystic. If it wasn't for the shotgun, it would have been the drugs.

I beg to disagree, but this is a touchy subject.

I believe in the music artist's staged deaths around drama for retirement/peace/more fame conspiracy theories.

Nirvana, Michael Jackson and XXX are all examples of this. XXX was even one to predict it would happen in his last live stream and mentioned it 5 times before his so-called death.

Media has a field day and eats it up, positive or negative doesn't matter, it drives traffic and attention. Then they somehow keep selling and profiting from it after death, finding new music never released, etc. It becomes very questionable with XXX, in my eyes anyways.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2783u08q6Xk
Last edited by Azza ☠; Feb 3, 2019 @ 1:40pm
trousers Feb 3, 2019 @ 1:39pm 
he was objectively a competent musician who managed to forge a successful career out of being a competent musician in a group with other competent musicians

so i guess if aptitude is how you define talent he was pretty good i suppose, and he got popular from it to boot
[FFK3] Trovaa Feb 3, 2019 @ 2:10pm 
Everyone is talented to some degree, he was very talented.

Was....
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