danygia 2019 年 3 月 28 日 上午 11:37
Google Stadia will kill gaming on PC?
I just bought an high end 3500 € PC and I'm worried about this, then i wouldn't like if it'll become the new main gaming platform because it isn't good for my standard, i want a way to play every game how it was intended to be without censorship,the PC is the one that comes closest to this, instead of Google Stadia will censor videogames :
https://www.google.com/amp/s/gadgets.ndtv.com/games/news/google-stadia-gaming-service-will-not-have-any-adults-only-content-executive-says-2010748%3famp=1&akamai-rum=off
They'll follow ESRB and their selfies rules and will collaborate with developers to make games with appropriate contents on their platform.
Streaming can be good for movies and not games there will be latency problems with home connections, i have 20 MBs Wi-Fi.

UPDATE: It's nothing new
https://www.google.it/amp/s/www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/best-game-streaming-services/%3famp
最後修改者:danygia; 2019 年 3 月 28 日 下午 3:14
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AdahnGorion 2019 年 3 月 29 日 下午 1:11 
引用自 AustrAlien2010
引用自 danygia

Big G said that you'll be tracked, what you play, with you play, where you play.

You already have this ethical problem with the current achievement system. If you make a personal choice, you may have second thoughts about it later. But it doesn't matter, because there it is! Standing out, like a shining example of stupidy, dreadfully flaunting on your profile. Ever reminding everyone of a bad choice. It's quite terrifying, if you think about it.

Can you tell me what Achivements I have? The answer is no. Steam (Valve) is not using that information and it makes little sense talking about them or similar choices.
You being recorded (in several ways) logged etc from streaming a game would be a big issue however, because it taps into something entire different.

Who cares if I play a Neutral Evil maniac in RPG's... That is not the concern, the concern is the agreement would you would to make about your habits.


https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1697627679
AustrAlien2010 2019 年 3 月 29 日 下午 1:15 
引用自 Darkie
引用自 AustrAlien2010

You already have this ethical problem with the current achievement system. If you make a personal choice, you may have second thoughts about it later. But it doesn't matter, because there it is! Standing out, like a shining example of stupidy, dreadfully flaunting on your profile. Ever reminding everyone of a bad choice. It's quite terrifying, if you think about it.

Can you tell me what Achivements I have? The answer is no. Steam (Valve) is not using that information and it makes little sense talking about them or similar choices.
You being recorded (in several ways) logged etc from streaming a game would be a big issue however, because it taps into something entire different.

Who cares if I play a Neutral Evil maniac in RPG's... That is not the concern, the concern is the agreement would you would to make about your habits.


https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1697627679

Indeed. I mean, how could I have known that one would attack me with an axe for trying to eat that chicken. :solitude:
最後修改者:AustrAlien2010; 2019 年 3 月 29 日 下午 1:18
Ganger 2019 年 3 月 29 日 下午 1:21 
I have always said streaming games will be the future at some point, maybe not at the moment due to limited tech and internet speeds for most people. But its interesting to see what google will have to offer and how it works.
danygia 2019 年 3 月 29 日 下午 1:38 
引用自 Ganger
I have always said streaming games will be the future at some point, maybe not at the moment due to limited tech and internet speeds for most people. But its interesting to see what google will have to offer and how it works.

To replace PC gaming they'll have to make you available the games in a way that it wouldn't be possible. On PC i can choose between Steam, Epic, developers websites and so on, i can choice where to buy my game by myself on the web, streaming service is for all people but things that points to be for everyone will surely make compromise, it can't respect every people preferences.
最後修改者:danygia; 2019 年 3 月 29 日 下午 1:41
Ganger 2019 年 3 月 29 日 下午 1:46 
引用自 danygia

To replace PC gaming they'll have to make you available the games in a way that it wouldn't be possible. On PC i can choose between Steam, Epic, developers websites and so on, i can choice where to buy my game by myself on the web, streaming service is for all people but thing that points to be for everyone will surely make compromise, it can't respect every people preferences.

It will come down to the devs in the future. They can say we only releasing this game via streaming and if that game becomes a success then others will follow suit.

Im just going to state a example; lets say the next GTA game (gta6), rockstar say it will only be available via google stadia's streaming service. Millions of fans would buy stadia just for the game and thats how things take off. I won't be susprised if google buy some top IP just too launch this thing.
danygia 2019 年 3 月 29 日 下午 1:52 
引用自 Ganger
引用自 danygia

To replace PC gaming they'll have to make you available the games in a way that it wouldn't be possible. On PC i can choose between Steam, Epic, developers websites and so on, i can choice where to buy my game by myself on the web, streaming service is for all people but thing that points to be for everyone will surely make compromise, it can't respect every people preferences.

It will come down to the devs in the future. They can say we only releasing this game via streaming and if that game becomes a success then others will follow suit.

Im just going to state a example; lets say the next GTA game (gta6), rockstar say it will only be available via google stadia's streaming service. Millions of fans would buy stadia just for the game and thats how things take off. I won't be susprised if google buy some top IP just too launch this thing.

This is exactly what i'm worring about, I'm sure that this will happen and it'll be the moment that I'll stop playing video games, Stadia can't be my place or at least not the only one.
AustrAlien2010 2019 年 3 月 29 日 下午 1:55 
引用自 danygia
This is exactly what i'm worring about, I'm sure that this will happen and it'll be the moment that I'll stop playing video games, Stadia can't be my place or at least not the only one.

This will not happen, because they will still need PC's to run those games. I think it's more for people that do not have so much to spend, but still want to play those games.
最後修改者:AustrAlien2010; 2019 年 3 月 29 日 下午 2:04
|ツ-ColeTrunks 2019 年 3 月 29 日 下午 1:56 
Shouldn't have paid that much. Streaming and stadia the future of gaming. Sell those parts buy a 50 dollar laptop easy done. Dont know how long the streaming phase is gonna last though in the long run.
Ganger 2019 年 3 月 29 日 下午 1:57 
引用自 danygia
This is exactly what i'm worring about, I'm sure that this will happen and it'll be the moment that I'll stop playing video games, Stadia can't be my place or at least not the only one.

I wouldn't worry too soon about it yet, but streaming will become the norm some time in the future. We just have to embrace this new way to game or be left behind. But no doubt in 10 years time, the technology would of improved greatly to give us 60fps, lag free, top quailty gaming at 4k. But nothing is writen on stone, it could all fail for all we know.
danygia 2019 年 3 月 29 日 下午 2:47 
As i expected you have fixed settings on the streaming platform, obviously no max settings.

https://www.google.it/amp/s/www.pcgamer.com/amp/i-tried-googles-stadia-and-latency-got-me-killed/
sotaponi 2019 年 3 月 29 日 下午 3:27 
引用自 AustrAlien2010
引用自 danygia
This is exactly what i'm worring about, I'm sure that this will happen and it'll be the moment that I'll stop playing video games, Stadia can't be my place or at least not the only one.

This will not happen, because they will still need PC's to run those games. I think it's more for people that do not have so much to spend, but still want to play those games.
i'm looking forward to the day google will let me stream my OS, as well. or even let me host my brain on their servers. and of course they will own the rights to the data "my" lincensed brain produces (you don't own your brain, but merely have a license to exist), which they will then sell to 3rd parties... or alternatively they will let me sell the data myself (in case you don't need a license, but do actually "own" your brain in some manner). which i will of course do (whoring myself out completely), just to have that small but decisive edge on others.
最後修改者:sotaponi; 2019 年 3 月 29 日 下午 3:27
Martin Harris 2019 年 3 月 29 日 下午 3:31 
you can still use your pc dude,
最後修改者:Martin Harris; 2019 年 3 月 29 日 下午 3:31
AdahnGorion 2019 年 3 月 30 日 上午 4:14 
引用自 ThePatchWorkHoax
you can still use your pc dude,

But most people would not since either their PC would be worse of than the stream or much better. If better (will be common) then you would hinder FPS, get input lag, max 60 and often 30 fps and that is on 1080p. We did not even talk about always online, licence game on the stream service, other lag issues, etc etc.. So this is pretty much only an alternative to the very casual gamer and the console crowd
Trundle 2019 年 3 月 30 日 上午 4:19 
Plus the internet bill and then their subscription fees? Yikes
AdahnGorion 2019 年 3 月 30 日 上午 5:01 
Plus the internet bill and then their subscription fees? Yikes

Internet is no problem for the few of us that lives in good areas with good speed for low prices.. But for 80% of the places Stadia will cater to, they will not have very good speed anyway. That is why its going to be no threat to PC gaming at all and there have been other gaming stream services already (they all failed) Again I see a potential market for the normal casual gaming family that normaly uses consoles, because now they can just buy a smart tv, then stream the game on that, no need to buy a console. (they wont see a difference, since they are used to play on 1080, with 30 fps and input lag)
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