danygia 2019 年 3 月 28 日 上午 11:37
Google Stadia will kill gaming on PC?
I just bought an high end 3500 € PC and I'm worried about this, then i wouldn't like if it'll become the new main gaming platform because it isn't good for my standard, i want a way to play every game how it was intended to be without censorship,the PC is the one that comes closest to this, instead of Google Stadia will censor videogames :
https://www.google.com/amp/s/gadgets.ndtv.com/games/news/google-stadia-gaming-service-will-not-have-any-adults-only-content-executive-says-2010748%3famp=1&akamai-rum=off
They'll follow ESRB and their selfies rules and will collaborate with developers to make games with appropriate contents on their platform.
Streaming can be good for movies and not games there will be latency problems with home connections, i have 20 MBs Wi-Fi.

UPDATE: It's nothing new
https://www.google.it/amp/s/www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/best-game-streaming-services/%3famp
最後修改者:danygia; 2019 年 3 月 28 日 下午 3:14
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emoticorpse 2019 年 3 月 28 日 下午 3:57 
引用自 Omega
引用自 danygia

You can do backup for you steam games on your Hdd.
What if you don't have enough storage to save all your games?

Kinda the user's fault. It's not like 8 TB drives don't exist.
Omega 2019 年 3 月 28 日 下午 3:58 
引用自 emoticorpse
引用自 Omega
What if you don't have enough storage to save all your games?

If you don't have the space for a backup how would you have space for an original physical copy?. If anything this argument is in favor of cloud gaming.
Storage as-in hard disks to hold the games.

I for example have 50 games installed out of the 292 in my library and I am nearly out of storage.
emoticorpse 2019 年 3 月 28 日 下午 4:01 
引用自 Omega
引用自 emoticorpse

If you don't have the space for a backup how would you have space for an original physical copy?. If anything this argument is in favor of cloud gaming.
Storage as-in hard disks to hold the games.

I for example have 50 games installed out of the 292 in my library and I am nearly out of storage.

yeah, I realized what you meant after. My bad. I mean I still don't blame Steam at all for that. I wouldn't even blame a Home Depot for selling a person five truckloads of wood and they had nowhere on their property to hold it.
Omega 2019 年 3 月 28 日 下午 4:04 
引用自 emoticorpse
引用自 Omega
Storage as-in hard disks to hold the games.

I for example have 50 games installed out of the 292 in my library and I am nearly out of storage.

yeah, I realized what you meant after. My bad. I mean I still don't blame Steam at all for that. I wouldn't even blame a Home Depot for selling a person five truckloads of wood and they had nowhere on their property to hold it.
I am not blaming Steam for anything. This is just a thing you have to be aware of when buying digital.

Stadia is worse, you lose access to the games when Google decides to no longer support them, kill Stadia or you stop paying. That is also a thing I can see Google do, drop certain games for various reason after 10-ish years.
emoticorpse 2019 年 3 月 28 日 下午 4:10 
引用自 Omega
引用自 emoticorpse

yeah, I realized what you meant after. My bad. I mean I still don't blame Steam at all for that. I wouldn't even blame a Home Depot for selling a person five truckloads of wood and they had nowhere on their property to hold it.
I am not blaming Steam for anything. This is just a thing you have to be aware of when buying digital.

Stadia is worse, you lose access to the games when Google decides to no longer support them, kill Stadia or you stop paying. That is also a thing I can see Google do, drop certain games for various reason after 10-ish years.

I agree with this.
Omega 2019 年 3 月 28 日 下午 4:13 
The only way I can see Stadia become a thing would be if they license out games instead of having the entire game library sitting behind a monthly paywall.
emoticorpse 2019 年 3 月 28 日 下午 4:19 
引用自 Omega
The only way I can see Stadia become a thing would be if they license out games instead of having the entire game library sitting behind a monthly paywall.

I can see it becoming a thing. I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole at the moment but if people do this for music, movies, tv I can DEFINITELY see them doing this for games. Getting rid of download/updates is temping. Games are huge nowadays and seems like every time you load up the system 25% of your games need an update. I can see simple folks loving the idea of avoiding all this.
Omega 2019 年 3 月 28 日 下午 4:21 
Since it's Google you can expect them to datamine the crap out of this.

And don't be suprised if they will show ads in games.
calluM 2019 年 3 月 28 日 下午 4:29 
引用自 danygia
I just bought an high end 3500 € PC and I'm worried about this, then i wouldn't like if it'll become the new main gaming platform because it isn't good for my standard, i want a way to play every game how it was intended to be without censorship,the PC is the one that comes closest to this, instead of Google Stadia will censor videogames :
https://www.google.com/amp/s/gadgets.ndtv.com/games/news/google-stadia-gaming-service-will-not-have-any-adults-only-content-executive-says-2010748%3famp=1&akamai-rum=off
They'll follow ESRB and their selfies rules and will collaborate with developers to make games with appropriate contents on their platform.
Streaming can be good for movies and not games there will be latency problems with home connections, i have 20 MBs Wi-Fi.

UPDATE: It's nothing new
https://www.google.it/amp/s/www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/best-game-streaming-services/%3famp

Lmao Google Stadia isn't gonna kill PC gaming at all. They're two different realms.
danygia 2019 年 3 月 28 日 下午 4:38 
引用自 DJ NibNoob
引用自 danygia
I just bought an high end 3500 € PC and I'm worried about this, then i wouldn't like if it'll become the new main gaming platform because it isn't good for my standard, i want a way to play every game how it was intended to be without censorship,the PC is the one that comes closest to this, instead of Google Stadia will censor videogames :
https://www.google.com/amp/s/gadgets.ndtv.com/games/news/google-stadia-gaming-service-will-not-have-any-adults-only-content-executive-says-2010748%3famp=1&akamai-rum=off
They'll follow ESRB and their selfies rules and will collaborate with developers to make games with appropriate contents on their platform.
Streaming can be good for movies and not games there will be latency problems with home connections, i have 20 MBs Wi-Fi.

UPDATE: It's nothing new
https://www.google.it/amp/s/www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/best-game-streaming-services/%3famp

Lmao Google Stadia isn't gonna kill PC gaming at all. They're two different realms.

All gaming websites are going crazy for this Stadia, something are saying that some developers may skip pc and doing games for Stadia at first.
calluM 2019 年 3 月 28 日 下午 4:41 
引用自 danygia
引用自 DJ NibNoob

Lmao Google Stadia isn't gonna kill PC gaming at all. They're two different realms.

All gaming websites are going crazy for this Stadia, something are saying that some developers may skip pc and doing games for Stadia at first.

Same happened with Nintendo Switch and every other handheld console before that. Until it's out no one knows what's going to happen. PC gaming has 15+ years of foundation. A Google product isn't going to kill it. It's like someone said above, I'd expect adverts within games and data mining like crazy. This is the equivalent of EA making a console.
danygia 2019 年 3 月 28 日 下午 4:44 
引用自 emoticorpse
引用自 Omega
The only way I can see Stadia become a thing would be if they license out games instead of having the entire game library sitting behind a monthly paywall.

I can see it becoming a thing. I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole at the moment but if people do this for music, movies, tv I can DEFINITELY see them doing this for games. Getting rid of download/updates is temping. Games are huge nowadays and seems like every time you load up the system 25% of your games need an update. I can see simple folks loving the idea of avoiding all this.

I always think that using your dedicated hardware and play with LAN will be better than streaming because of latency, then also resolution will be downgraded if you don't have a good Wi-Fi.
x_wing 2019 年 3 月 28 日 下午 5:49 
引用自 danygia
引用自 Cathulhu
The same as Google Stadia. Tried it some years ago. Wasn't exactly successful.

So why all people are talking about revolution ? It's only a copy of another copy and so on but Google have more money and could make it better.

The difference is that they will invest in a direct connection between ISP & their datacenters (they clearly explained that on the presentation). Having control over the backbone of the connection is what will improve a little bit the latency... but it will stil bel a little high.

What everyone have to think is that this new service is not suitable for every type of game. I mean, in a game where the key factor is the user reaction, it'll probably not be a good option. But on rpg like games with gigant evironments (mmorpg), RTS and many others, this platform is heaven. Also, it could be an excellent option for sports game where having a subscription seems to be more rasonable that buying almost the same game every year and that the latency isn't a key factor on the gameplay.

Regarding the "ownership" of a game, what will be the point of having a copy of PUGB in ten years from now if no one is playing that game anymore? As I said, it all depends on the type of game...
最後修改者:x_wing; 2019 年 3 月 28 日 下午 5:50
danygia 2019 年 3 月 29 日 上午 12:11 
引用自 x_wing
引用自 danygia

So why all people are talking about revolution ? It's only a copy of another copy and so on but Google have more money and could make it better.

The difference is that they will invest in a direct connection between ISP & their datacenters (they clearly explained that on the presentation). Having control over the backbone of the connection is what will improve a little bit the latency... but it will stil bel a little high.

What everyone have to think is that this new service is not suitable for every type of game. I mean, in a game where the key factor is the user reaction, it'll probably not be a good option. But on rpg like games with gigant evironments (mmorpg), RTS and many others, this platform is heaven. Also, it could be an excellent option for sports game where having a subscription seems to be more rasonable that buying almost the same game every year and that the latency isn't a key factor on the gameplay.

Regarding the "ownership" of a game, what will be the point of having a copy of PUGB in ten years from now if no one is playing that game anymore? As I said, it all depends on the type of game...

"Regarding the "ownership" of a game, what will be the point of having a copy of PUGB in ten years from now if no one is playing that game anymore? As I said, it all depends on the type of game..."

Yes, online games" ownership" would be useless but i was talking about single player games, if i buy one game and i like it then may be that I'll play it other times in the future without paying anything more, in a streaming service if it don't have indeterminate access option to the game you'll not can do this.

"The difference is that they will invest in a direct connection between ISP & their datacenters (they clearly explained that on the presentation). Having control over the backbone of the connection is what will improve a little bit the latency... but it will stil bel a little high."

Probably it will be not free of problems at least for the first years but in the future with decent Wi-Fi this would be fixed. I now want to be optimistic, according to what i see from playstation now, nobody has stopped buying consoles but it can be a good way to try new games without buy the console, according to what i see from GeForce now, nobody has stopped buying Nvidia GPU but it can be a little alternative for the ones that don't want to spend too much to buy one. If Google Stadia will be nearly the same of PSnow and GeForce Now it wouldn't be a trouble for me but i would be sorry if it were no longer possible to play with dedicated hardware.
最後修改者:danygia; 2019 年 3 月 29 日 上午 12:21
Omega 2019 年 3 月 29 日 上午 12:28 
AAA singleplayer games often make use of always-online DRM, if the DRM vertification server goes down the game will no longer work. There is little difference between a multiplayer and singleplayer game nowadays.
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