Why do villains become good when they lose their memory?

[Esoteric]

Wouldn't their personality and goals stay the same?

[-V-]

I wonder if this would have the opposite effect on heroes.

Hmmmm...

[abcd]

Origineel geplaatst door davidb11:

I thought the OP said money, not memory. Whoops. That's my bad.

Also, V, usually, the hero doesn't become a villain like that.

I thought the money question was pretty good.

If you just deny the villian access to all basic resources beyond survival, maybe even enslaving them and requiring them to work just for that, are you justifying any actions they might take or have taken?

It's an interesting thought experiment regarding the prison system.

[-V-]

Origineel geplaatst door davidb11:

I thought the OP said money, not memory. Whoops. That's my bad.

Also, V, usually, the hero doesn't become a villain like that.

Makes sense. It's all what happens after the memory wipe that matters muahahahaha -tents fingers-

[The Gut]

Origineel geplaatst door davidb11:

Origineel geplaatst door Haradasanz' Gut:

Villains are a creation invented so that regular people who aren’t good have a person to wave their finger at so they can feel good about themselves for doing nothing.

So dark, you must be from the DC universe.
No, but seriously, that is a pretty dark way of thinking.

By dark, do you mean cynical? How many villains have you met? I personally have never met a villain, but I have encountered criminals who were a product of violent or neglectful parents, and wanted to get revenge on the world and society for their pain. This is generally the way people are, they react and make choices based on upbringing and circumstances. Villains are a tool for people who do nothing.

[The Gut]

Origineel geplaatst door davidb11:

Origineel geplaatst door Haradasanz' Gut:

By dark, do you mean cynical? How many villains have you met? I personally have never met a villain, but I have encountered criminals who were a product of violent or neglectful parents, and wanted to get revenge on the world and society for their pain. This is generally the way people are, they react and make choices based on upbringing and circumstances. Villains are a tool for people who do nothing.

The point is, villains aren't really a thing in the real world.
So, no, you'll never meet a villain. Even if you lived for a thousand years.
The closest you can get is Idi Amin, and even as a dictator, he's not as bad as some villains.


You're acting as though there are villains in the real world. There aren't any, because to have a villain, you need a hero. And I don't mean a good soldier, or a vigiliante.

I mean someone who might as well be a damn superhero. Not just someone who goes and rescues people from burning buildings.

Do you believe a person is defined by their actions, as their character? I believe this because ideals do not translate as actions always, and acts are what people are as a test in reality.
Maybe I am off topic here on this off topic topic, because I’m talking about real people vs fantasy. Well it’s a great discussion topic either way.

People’s actions can be heroic or evil, but people are not only those things. They are nuanced

[Hawk]

Origineel geplaatst door Hermetic:

Wouldn't their personality and goals stay the same?

R... really? Did you just ask that?

[🍋 Lemonfed 🍋]

they forget the things that made them eeeeevil ... so now they're goooooooooooooooood.

secretly it's because they picked the wrong card from the deck of many things

[The Gut]

Origineel geplaatst door Lemonfed:

they forget the things that made them eeeeevil ... so now they're goooooooooooooooood. :cocochan2:

secretly it's because they picked the wrong card from the deck of many things

Wow such depth, so secretive of you.