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Likealokey 2020년 3월 1일 오후 9시 27분
Do you own a gun?
To protect your family or for your personal collection display?
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Darth Triggerus ☯ 2020년 4월 11일 오후 10시 08분 
I live in a very rural area. No need for guns for criminals, or so I thought.

We have wild-life like mountain lions, rattlesnakes, bears, wild boars and wolves were just reintroduced into the area.

Although we did have one time when the police raided a large illegal grow in the area. Illegal immigrants were tending the farm and they shot a deputy and shot at everyone else. They had automatic weapons and fled the cops. Incidentally they escaped down the creek that runs behind the house.

We never saw a peep of them, but heck how bad of a situation could that of been, especially in an area where you wouldn't think that type of stuff happens.
slowdeath 2020년 4월 11일 오후 10시 13분 
Southpaw님이 먼저 게시:
So then incidents like Senator Rand Paul's neighbor running onto the Senators property to tackle him and break several ribs in a felony assault was just what exactly? Or any of the other countless attacks and breakins in rich neigborhoods.
yeah just gonna point out that the rand paul situation was resolved without a gun
not exactly a strong argument in your case

anyways some people are privileged enough to not have to live in constant fear, and your argument doesn't work for them
Darth Triggerus ☯ 2020년 4월 11일 오후 10시 26분 
I Don't Want To Be Me님이 먼저 게시:
Southpaw님이 먼저 게시:
So then incidents like Senator Rand Paul's neighbor running onto the Senators property to tackle him and break several ribs in a felony assault was just what exactly? Or any of the other countless attacks and breakins in rich neigborhoods.
yeah just gonna point out that the rand paul situation was resolved without a gun
not exactly a strong argument in your case

anyways some people are privileged enough to not have to live in constant fear, and your argument doesn't work for them
Sure it does.

Lets take those politicians or those figure heads like David Hogg who think as you do, that people don't have to live in fear and thus the world doesn't need guns. Are they protect by police/security/secret service who have guns?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuT_178BeBQ
slowdeath 2020년 4월 11일 오후 10시 31분 
Southpaw님이 먼저 게시:
I Don't Want To Be Me님이 먼저 게시:
yeah just gonna point out that the rand paul situation was resolved without a gun
not exactly a strong argument in your case

anyways some people are privileged enough to not have to live in constant fear, and your argument doesn't work for them
Sure it does.

Lets take those politicians or those figure heads like David Hogg who think as you do, that people don't have to live in fear and thus the world doesn't need guns. Are they protect by police/security/secret service who have guns?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuT_178BeBQ
I never said the world doesn't need guns. Cops and private security are also not the same thing as individual gun ownership. This is not an endorsement of either.

I've already made my core criticisms of your analogy and why it falls apart. If you need to keep arguing you can go back and reread my posts and just pretend I'm still talking to you.
Darth Triggerus ☯ 2020년 4월 11일 오후 10시 38분 
I Don't Want To Be Me님이 먼저 게시:
Southpaw님이 먼저 게시:
Sure it does.

Lets take those politicians or those figure heads like David Hogg who think as you do, that people don't have to live in fear and thus the world doesn't need guns. Are they protect by police/security/secret service who have guns?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuT_178BeBQ
I never said the world doesn't need guns. Cops and private security are also not the same thing as individual gun ownership. This is not an endorsement of either.

I've already made my core criticisms of your analogy and why it falls apart. If you need to keep arguing you can go back and reread my posts and just pretend I'm still talking to you.
You made the case that "privileged people" don't have to live in fear. Sorry buddy but there's less privileged people then privileged people in America. And I made the case that even privileged people have things to fear. Like in the case of Rand Paul. Like the the case of the Senator who was shot at a baseball game.

Darth Triggerus ☯ 님이 마지막으로 수정; 2020년 4월 11일 오후 11시 26분
76561198278961361 2020년 4월 12일 오전 6시 41분 
Southpaw님이 먼저 게시:
Take the No-Gun Challenge.

Play your favorite first person shooters without guns, and calmly ask the NPC to not kill you because you've decided to take a "higher path" see how well it works out for you.
Alright, so in this part, there are a few Combine checkpoints in the road. Now, the thing is, we can't kill them, cause we have no guns...

I don't like Combine, so-
Lure a Rollermine- initiate a Rollermine-boosted back hop- hop past these grunts- dodge the fence
brisket <3 (she/her) 님이 마지막으로 수정; 2020년 4월 12일 오전 6시 42분
UnicumDeluxe 2020년 4월 12일 오전 6시 47분 
Southpaw님이 먼저 게시:
Take the No-Gun Challenge.

Play your favorite first person shooters without guns, and calmly ask the NPC to not kill you because you've decided to take a "higher path" see how well it works out for you.

Theres the problem in your thoughts and the reason why you should not be allowed to own a gun

Real life is no SHOOTER.
UnicumDeluxe 님이 마지막으로 수정; 2020년 4월 12일 오전 6시 55분
HypersleepyNaputunia 2020년 4월 12일 오전 9시 21분 
Which gun would u feel safest having if a mountain lion ambushed you while talking walk down road
Starbug 2020년 4월 12일 오전 11시 00분 
Southpaw님이 먼저 게시:
I Don't Want To Be Me님이 먼저 게시:
I don't feel like quoting all of my recent posts in their entirety. I'm not responsible for your ability to read.

I guess I need to explain this again. First person shooters (both singleplayer and multiplayer) are inherently going to involve frequently pitting you against armed enemies the obvious and best way to progress or win is to shoot them. Real life is not a video game. Self defense situations do occur in real life, but your argument breaks down for anyone who is simply privileged enough to live in a nice neighborhood.
Again you don't think critically.

You're saying people in nice neighborhoods don't have to fear bad things happening?

I guess you don't watch the news much.

Yo I understand that the fear of crime is one of, if not the primary emotional drivers that makes people purchase firearms. Dat paranoia takes hold and before you know it, you're down at Ammunation perusing WMD's.
Darth Triggerus ☯ 2020년 4월 12일 오전 11시 28분 
Dog Dude님이 먼저 게시:
Southpaw님이 먼저 게시:
Take the No-Gun Challenge.

Play your favorite first person shooters without guns, and calmly ask the NPC to not kill you because you've decided to take a "higher path" see how well it works out for you.
Alright, so in this part, there are a few Combine checkpoints in the road. Now, the thing is, we can't kill them, cause we have no guns...

I don't like Combine, so-
Lure a Rollermine- initiate a Rollermine-boosted back hop- hop past these grunts- dodge the fence
You see...you're the first person to get the Challenge.
Darth Triggerus ☯ 2020년 4월 12일 오전 11시 32분 
UnicumDeluxe님이 먼저 게시:
Southpaw님이 먼저 게시:
Take the No-Gun Challenge.

Play your favorite first person shooters without guns, and calmly ask the NPC to not kill you because you've decided to take a "higher path" see how well it works out for you.

Theres the problem in your thoughts and the reason why you should not be allowed to own a gun

Real life is no SHOOTER.
Thank you Captain Obvious.
It kind of worries me that we have this many people who keep tripping up over the fact that the first person video game challenge is...a....video game challenge....not real life. But it's designed to teach you folks that when it comes to self-defense you at least want to be as equally armed as the bad guy.
UnicumDeluxe 2020년 4월 12일 오전 11시 35분 
Southpaw님이 먼저 게시:
UnicumDeluxe님이 먼저 게시:

Theres the problem in your thoughts and the reason why you should not be allowed to own a gun

Real life is no SHOOTER.
Thank you Captain Obvious.
It kind of worries me that we have this many people who keep tripping up over the fact that the first person video game challenge is...a....video game challenge....not real life. But it's designed to teach you folks that when it comes to self-defense you at least want to be as equally armed as the bad guy.
I prefer the other guy unarmed
Darth Triggerus ☯ 2020년 4월 12일 오전 11시 35분 
HypersleepyNaputunia님이 먼저 게시:
Which gun would u feel safest having if a mountain lion ambushed you while talking walk down road
I don't have much experience with handguns, rifles would require you to aim better and an ambushing mountain lion you might just not have time. Probably a good shot-gun.

Doesn't require good aim. Just point in the general direction of whatever you want to disappear and pull the trigger.
s w e k 2020년 4월 12일 오전 11시 37분 
Southpaw님이 먼저 게시:
UnicumDeluxe님이 먼저 게시:

Theres the problem in your thoughts and the reason why you should not be allowed to own a gun

Real life is no SHOOTER.
Thank you Captain Obvious.
It kind of worries me that we have this many people who keep tripping up over the fact that the first person video game challenge is...a....video game challenge....not real life.
No, I think that's just you.
Darth Triggerus ☯ 2020년 4월 12일 오전 11시 42분 
s w e k님이 먼저 게시:
Southpaw님이 먼저 게시:
Thank you Captain Obvious.
It kind of worries me that we have this many people who keep tripping up over the fact that the first person video game challenge is...a....video game challenge....not real life.
No, I think that's just you.
No, that would be them. They're acting as if a scenario in a video game is being confused with real life. It's a pathetic attempt to make it seem like I'm unbalanced but I'm simply using their entertainment to show that they don't really believe in the real life gun laws that they pretend to. That they know deep-down that the NPC's/Bad Guys aren't going to care for their reason for being disarmed only that they are disarmed.

Slapper's Only folks.
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