Games that actually reward you for being evil

[=CrimsoN=]

What are some good examples of games that actually reward you for being evil? Most games tend to punish the player for indiscriminately killing NPCs or doing the evil option when presented with such. Other games might reward the player for being evil, but the rewards will often be sub-par compared to the good option.

What are some good examples?

[Jimmy Carter]

Ⓥenom Ⓢnake 🐍 eredeti hozzászólása:

Nazeem eredeti hozzászólása:

Siding with the Deadric gods in Skyrim.

Only half of them are evil.

That's true, but the first Daedric god I met was Molag Baul, and he gave me some strong first impressions.

[=CrimsoN=]

Nazeem eredeti hozzászólása:

Siding with the Deadric gods in Skyrim.

Yeah, that's usually rewarding. Same with Oblivion and Morrowind. Although we have to remember that not all the Daedra are evil...and some defy the meaning of good and evil entirely

looking at you Sheogorath

Nazeem eredeti hozzászólása:

Ⓥenom Ⓢnake 🐍 eredeti hozzászólása:

Only half of them are evil.

That's true, but the first Daedric god I met was Molag Baul, and he gave me some strong first impressions.

yeah definitely no disputing that. He's known as the King of Rape. Not even Mehrunes Dagon comes close to that title

[F]

Life.

[Jimmy Carter]

⟨︎DuskMantle⟩ eredeti hozzászólása:

Nazeem eredeti hozzászólása:

Siding with the Deadric gods in Skyrim.

Yeah, that's usually rewarding. Same with Oblivion and Morrowind. Although we have to remember that not all the Daedra are evil...and some defy the meaning of good and evil entirely

looking at you Sheogorath

Nazeem eredeti hozzászólása:

That's true, but the first Daedric god I met was Molag Baul, and he gave me some strong first impressions.

yeah definitely no disputing that. He's known as the King of Rape. Not even Mehrunes Dagon comes close to that title

I like the gal who gave me the ebony blade, though. It's my favourite weapon.

[AustrAlien2010]

Lords of Shadows 2 received some critique back in the day, for it´s first opening scenes. But there was no choice, so you couldn´t really be evil. Same with hatred really. It´s merely a plot device. There is no real alternative.

[=CrimsoN=]

Koga eredeti hozzászólása:

Star Wars Jedi Knight: Dark Forces I and II.

ehhh how so? It didn't really seem to reward you, but it didn't punish you either. You just got a different ending. The real reward was in finding the secret areas and getting the additional force powers as a result (at least for the second game).

[Ⓥenom Ⓢnake 🐍]

Hatred was a crap game. Poorly optimized crap controls and the fact that it was just done to get press.

[Blargo]

You could go both ways with the inFAMOUS series (maybe excluding Second Son).
Being evil unlocks you abilities that tend to be more powerful than the good abilities, though the good abilities tend to be more versatile.

[Ⓥenom Ⓢnake 🐍]

Dxpress eredeti hozzászólása:

You could go both ways with the inFAMOUS series (maybe excluding Second Son).
Being evil unlocks you abilities that tend to be more powerful than the good abilities, though the good abilities tend to be more versatile.

And now I feel incredibly stupid for not mentioning the Bioshock franchise.

[Blargo]

Ⓥenom Ⓢnake 🐍 eredeti hozzászólása:

Dxpress eredeti hozzászólása:

You could go both ways with the inFAMOUS series (maybe excluding Second Son).
Being evil unlocks you abilities that tend to be more powerful than the good abilities, though the good abilities tend to be more versatile.

And now I feel incredibly stupid for not mentioning the Bioshock franchise.

Oh yeah, that as well.

[Azza ☠]

northowlman eredeti hozzászólása:

Todd Howard eredeti hozzászólása:

No the game obviously doesn't glorify mass shootings, as someone who actually played it the game makes it abundantly clear that the protagonist is a BAD person that you are NOT supposed to empathize with. The game is meant to be a experiment to see if the player is either disgusted by the protagonist's actions and stops playing the game or to see if the player ends up agreeing with the protagonist's sentiments and keeps playing. Either way the protagonist is NOT made out to be a hero, just a mass murderer.

That's obvious. It's still morally reprehensible to provide that service to potential psychopaths. Buying the game in itself is already a step in the wrong direction.

Most psychopaths have never even touched a video game. They are outside torturing and killing small animals, being anti-social, etc. Any parent or person around them would be given years and years of warning to see it coming, but they fail as a parent or friend and just ignore them.

That said, an eight year old boy got to play the video game, GTA 5. He later picked up a loaded gun with the safety off on the coffee table and shot his baby sitter with it. The media blamed violent video games for it. They couldn't blame the bad parenting, the failure of gun laws, or the dead baby sitter, now could they? It was a non-complaining video game which gets the fall. What the media left out was the kid only played 5 minutes of that video game, driving around. Didn't even run anyone over or pick up a gun in the game yet. He assumed the gun left out was a toy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZIjaVFinzw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63Ip-SrUoIQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3vhYvW6RPI

Fix the real root cause of your problems, then you can go complain about a scapegoat used for the mere avoidance of it. You TEACH your own children or FORCE them into it, because of your stupidity with scapegoating blame upon other things, trying to build a wall to avoid it, etc.

You just create more problem than you fix otherwise. Get real sick of your illogical leadership and bias media.

"Games that actually reward you for being evil" is the less of the problem, if a problem at all. You blaming them to avoid the real world problems however is.

Japan gun violence = 0.06% (highest violent video gamers)
Mexico gun violence = 7.64% (forced by gangs / drugs)
American gun violence = 12.21% (not forced, most are school shooters - spend more on military/spying than even healthcare or education)

It's clearly not the violent video games causing the issue now is it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS91knuzoOA

I'll give you a clue to one of the actual main root causes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2BfqDUPL1I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DboMAghWcA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_l4Ab5FRwM

[=CrimsoN=]

Koga eredeti hozzászólása:

⟨︎DuskMantle⟩ eredeti hozzászólása:

ehhh how so? It didn't really seem to reward you, but it didn't punish you either. You just got a different ending. The real reward was in finding the secret areas and getting the additional force powers as a result (at least for the second game).

No.

You had Force Powers!

oh yeah and the more evil or good powers would unlock more from each respective side, I believe