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Vile 2020 年 2 月 6 日 下午 1:46
Anyone else leaving PC next gen ?
After hearing everyone, I changed my mind.


The crazy thing is that it kind of hit me for some reason. Do I really want to get a Ps4 right now ? There's the 2019 Black Friday bundle at Wal-Mart right now for $250. A 1 TB slim with The Last Of Us: Remastered, Horizon Zero Dawn: Complete edition, and God Of War.

Then I was like, do I really need it ?

Honestly I'm thinking of watching the games in movie form on YouTube for the story aspect


I just bought Mortal Kombat 11 on Steam. I think that I'm the problem, not PC gaming. Yeah PC gaming has some problems, but it isn't that bad. Pros outweigh the cons. I sound harsh, but PC gaming has lots of perks. It is an all in one station and it has lots of diversity with controllers and games.

I think that I'm just getting older and I like retro games the most and maybe in due time I'll get hyped for my PC gaming library.

I had to think what led me to PC gaming ? No one around me gamed on it and I had no history with it. It was because it was 2017 and I was still playing my 360 cause One was a dumpster fire and Ps4 just didn't interest me. I love PC and retro gaming and I doubt I'll get a PS5 anytime soon. I saw the Ps4 today, had a chance to buy it, walked away, was happy about that.


I played and 100%ed many games on both last gen and I am ready to move on. That's why I got into PC and have no interest in Ps4 or next gen consoles now. I guess I was kind of ranting and came around after hearing everyone.

The problem with consoles today, especially Xbox, is that they are riding on the coattails of last gen instead of moving on.

Like as an example, PS1 had Crash Bandicoot and Spyro as the big sellers. Then PS2 had Jak and Daxter and Ratchet And Clank. Now sure there were some Spyro and Crash games on Ps2, but they weren't the major sellers like on Ps1. Naughty Dog and Insomniac moved on.

I loved Gears Of War and God Of War, but I wanted them to end with the third games. I've 100%ed God Of War 1 and 2 on Ps2 and Ps3. I've 100%ed The third on Ps3. God Of War 4 might look good and it might be good, but I'm tired of the series. I wanted Kratos to stay dead in the third game and be the essence of free will essentially, it would have been the perfect ending.
最后由 Vile 编辑于; 2020 年 2 月 8 日 上午 4:54
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Sorce 2020 年 2 月 6 日 下午 8:47 
Lol, All my friends dont have consoles so I would stick with pc. Tho i would still buy ps5 for Big games like the new ESO and other stuff.
JDumbz 2020 年 2 月 6 日 下午 8:49 
lol bye
Nabster 2020 年 2 月 6 日 下午 9:13 
I play PC because of exclusives (Total war). The genre that I like seems to be PC friendly strategy.

Snow 2020 年 2 月 6 日 下午 9:40 
引用自 Deadsea_1993
1. Lack of exclusives

2. Long waiting times for games like Gta V and Red Dead Redemption 2.

3. Broken ports.

4. Glitchy console ports

5. Digital games eats up hard drive storage

6. It can be difficult to decide what To play.

7. Lack of selling the games.

8. Convenience of console gaming.

9. Easy upgrade choices later or you can opt out of upgrading your console to a newer version.

10. Console exclusives.

11. Friends that play consoles. None of my friends play PC.

12. Launcher pushes

13. Problems created by developers like R* Gta 5. Like tying your Steam profile to your Social club account and forcing you to have it to play story mode or the game at all.

14. The fact that consoles like Ps4 Pro and Xbox One X aren't that inferior to PC anymore

15. Graphics cards
1. Have you ever played on PC? PS4 has few exclusives while PC has thousands upon thousands.
2. Why talk 2 years waiting for GTAV on PC, let's talk 20 years waiting for Diablo 2 on consoles.
3. That's called broken games. There is nothing to port considering consoles run PC hardware these days.
4. Read 3.
5. That's called "progress". PCs ditches this stupid "load data from the disk during gameplay" stuff long ago as internal drives are much faster.
6. So first there are no PC exclusives, and now there are so many games it's hard to decide what to play?
7. You've posted this on the forum of the biggest PC games market.
8. What do you mean by convenience?
9. That's called "buying another console", not "upgrading". And I don't see how the lack of choices can be a good thing.
10. Read 1 and 6.
11. That's actually yet another reason to not support console market, as there's no such thing as "I can't play with a friend who has different PC", but apparently there is such thing with consoles.
12. Then why are you using Steam if you don't like launchers?
13. Ingenious Brits from R*N have nothing to do with such things. Do you actually believe the same guys who make games like GTAV and RDR2 and make them run on weak ass consoles are the same guys who invented this Social Club stuff? Blame Take-Two.
14. Yeah, still using 2013 laptop hardware in 2020, totally not inferior to PCs at all.
15. I guess in your world consoles don't require GPUs to run games?
Abisha 2020 年 2 月 6 日 下午 9:45 
引用自 Snow
引用自 Deadsea_1993
1. Lack of exclusives

2. Long waiting times for games like Gta V and Red Dead Redemption 2.

3. Broken ports.

4. Glitchy console ports

5. Digital games eats up hard drive storage

6. It can be difficult to decide what To play.

7. Lack of selling the games.

8. Convenience of console gaming.

9. Easy upgrade choices later or you can opt out of upgrading your console to a newer version.

10. Console exclusives.

11. Friends that play consoles. None of my friends play PC.

12. Launcher pushes

13. Problems created by developers like R* Gta 5. Like tying your Steam profile to your Social club account and forcing you to have it to play story mode or the game at all.

14. The fact that consoles like Ps4 Pro and Xbox One X aren't that inferior to PC anymore

15. Graphics cards
1. Have you ever played on PC? PS4 has few exclusives while PC has thousands upon thousands.
2. Why talk 2 years waiting for GTAV on PC, let's talk 20 years waiting for Diablo 2 on consoles.
3. That's called broken games. There is nothing to port considering consoles run PC hardware these days.
4. Read 3.
5. That's called "progress". PCs ditches this stupid "load data from the disk during gameplay" stuff long ago as internal drives are much faster.
6. So first there are no PC exclusives, and now there are so many games it's hard to decide what to play?
7. You've posted this on the forum of the biggest PC games market.
8. What do you mean by convenience?
9. That's called "buying another console", not "upgrading". And I don't see how the lack of choices can be a good thing.
10. Read 1 and 6.
11. That's actually yet another reason to not support console market, as there's no such thing as "I can't play with a friend who has different PC", but apparently there is such thing with consoles.
12. Then why are you using Steam if you don't like launchers?
13. Ingenious Brits from R*N have nothing to do with such things. Do you actually believe the same guys who make games like GTAV and RDR2 and make them run on weak ass consoles are the same guys who invented this Social Club stuff? Blame Take-Two.
14. Yeah, still using 2013 laptop hardware in 2020, totally not inferior to PCs at all.
15. I guess in your world consoles don't require GPUs to run games?

also don't forget that Software engineering on PC is much better, hardware is at a end.
so it's now all about the software Microsoft is doing good job of creating better and better API on the PC.

on top of that Deep learning would likely push forward both that AMD and Nvdia is investing much in.

those are Exclusive PC only.
Snow 2020 年 2 月 6 日 下午 9:49 
引用自 Abisha
also don't forget that Software engineering on PC is much better, hardware is at a end.
so it's now all about the software Microsoft is doing good job of creating better and better API on the PC.
I personally don't have much trust in Microsoft. More and more often I see developers including Vulkan in their games, or even totally ditching DX12 like creators of PS3 emulator did. If DirectX was that good, Microsoft wouldn't need to create consoles just to sell DX to more devs and players.
arid 2020 年 2 月 6 日 下午 9:52 
nope cuz i cant edit videos or do photoshop on a ps4-5 and pc's just look better. you wont get to see your motherboard rgb anymore, no more rgb ram...just a plain box
SleepyHollow 2020 年 2 月 7 日 上午 7:54 
I absolutely hate consoles, and it has absolutely no way to replace PC for me.
PC games have mods, proper controls (and choice of controller when needed), endless customizability of OS, mods, the ability to do ♥♥♥♥ same time as playing (watching smth on another screen, music, messengers, browsers, business stuffs, scripts, etc.

+ the fact that u can build and upgrade it yourself according to your needs, better graphics (if you pay for it)

+ many more smaller and bigger reasons that im too lazy to list here.

The only exception to this is Nintendo stuff, because Nintendo actually has its original games which u get the best experience for playing them with controllers/on the console itself.
Still no replacement for PC.
Everything that isnt from Nintendo that calls itself exclusive can go straight in the trashcan anyway.

Also legecy consoles: modded reader head PS2, Xbox 360, etc. to play classics, xbox was bought to play gta 5 early.
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Peter 2020 年 2 月 7 日 下午 4:03 
Do what suits your lifestyle. Don't feel that you are bound to one platform.
Z i o ⚡ 2020 年 2 月 7 日 下午 4:11 
I still have lots of games I want to play...when the mood hits me.
Vile 2020 年 2 月 7 日 下午 10:54 
The crazy thing is that it kind of hit me for some reason. Do I really want to get a Ps4 right now ? There's the 2019 Black Friday bundle at Wal-Mart right now for $250. A 1 TB slim with The Last Of Us: Remastered, Horizon Zero Dawn: Complete edition, and God Of War.

Then I was like, do I really need it ? Sure I love God Of War, I've 100%ed The first two on Ps2 and Ps3 and I've 100%ed The third one on Ps3. But do I want to throw down $300 for it and a few games ? Not really.

Honestly I'm thinking of watching the games in movie form on YouTube for the story aspect


I just bought Mortal Kombat 11 on Steam. I think that I'm the problem, not PC gaming. Yeah PC gaming has some problems, but it isn't that bad. Pros outweigh the cons. I sound harsh, but PC gaming has lots of perks. It is an all in one station and it has lots of diversity with controllers and games.

I think that I'm just getting older and I like retro games the most and maybe in due time I'll get hyped for my PC gaming library.

I had to think what led me to PC gaming ? No one around me gamed on it and I had no history with it. It was because it was 2017 and I was still playing my 360 cause One was a dumpster fire and Ps4 just didn't interest me. I love PC and retro gaming and I doubt I'll get a PS5 anytime soon. I saw the Ps4 today, had a chance to buy it, walked away, was happy about that.
最后由 Vile 编辑于; 2020 年 2 月 7 日 下午 10:55
Xautos 2020 年 2 月 7 日 下午 11:20 
引用自 Snow
引用自 Abisha
also don't forget that Software engineering on PC is much better, hardware is at a end.
so it's now all about the software Microsoft is doing good job of creating better and better API on the PC.
I personally don't have much trust in Microsoft. More and more often I see developers including Vulkan in their games, or even totally ditching DX12 like creators of PS3 emulator did. If DirectX was that good, Microsoft wouldn't need to create consoles just to sell DX to more devs and players.

Linux FTW.



引用自 Deadsea_1993
I'm thinking about getting a Ps5 for a number of reasons. One is that I'm approaching 30 and I work fulltime at a car factory. I rarely have too much free time for PC gaming anymore. Shopping for deals, messing with settings, looking up parts and system requirements has become too demanding for my schedule anymore. Here are some reasons and I can go in detail of you want.

1. Lack of exclusives

2. Long waiting times for games like Gta V and Red Dead Redemption 2.

3. Broken ports.

4. Glitchy console ports

5. Digital games eats up hard drive storage

6. It can be difficult to decide what To play.

7. Lack of selling the games.

8. Convenience of console gaming.

9. Easy upgrade choices later or you can opt out of upgrading your console to a newer version.

10. Console exclusives.

11. Friends that play consoles. None of my friends play PC.

12. Launcher pushes

13. Problems created by developers like R* Gta 5. Like tying your Steam profile to your Social club account and forcing you to have it to play story mode or the game at all.

14. The fact that consoles like Ps4 Pro and Xbox One X aren't that inferior to PC anymore

15. Graphics cards

1. there are plenty of exclusives on the PC.

2. Not any more with M.2 SSD drives, even a regular SATA SSD can work.

3. every game has bugs and glitches and silly design elements, it isn't a PC only thing.

4. point 3.

5. So does uploading games from a disc to the drive plus updating, why do you think consoles have disk drives for?

6. That isn't even a PC problem, that is your problem.

7. Ironically consoles don't sell games anywhere near as good as the PC.

8. as opposed to how hard it is to tap some keys, move the mouse and tap the button? what makes you think sony's own OS isn't going to be as convoluted as Windows 10 on the PC?

9. Where as the PC can be upgraded at anytime.

10. There have only been a few compared to what the PC has.

11. point 6.

12. you do realise that the OS that Sony will use is nothing more than a minimal operating system but you are interacting solely from its launcher in the similar fashion to Steam on a PC with windows 10 in the background.

13. That isn't a PC thing, that is a developer/publisher preference.

14. point 6.

15. Both consoles will be using AMD kit, AMD is still light years behind Nvidia. I suppose the only good thing for you is that AMD is quantum leaps ahead of Intel graphics.
Chris 2020 年 2 月 7 日 下午 11:25 
The question is what happens to consoles when streaming arrives....I personally think they won’t disappear but they will get more upgrades down the line to keep up with streaming so basically they will become more expansive
Chris 2020 年 2 月 7 日 下午 11:32 
I wouldn't give up PC gaming, but I'm probably gonna get a PS5 either way. Mainly because my current PS4 tends to randomly freeze or crash in the middle of gaming, so I have all these games that I wanna play but currently can't because I'm afraid I'll lose a buncha progress...

I do save often, but I hate repeating stuff only to have it crash again.

No harm in having both if you can afford it. Though if it's not backwards compatible with PS4, then idk.
Have you tried to defragment your console.Try to check the safemode of your console and you can also reset the whole system from there
Xautos 2020 年 2 月 7 日 下午 11:35 
引用自 Christoph
The question is what happens to consoles when streaming arrives....I personally think they won’t disappear but they will get more upgrades down the line to keep up with streaming so basically they will become more expansive

Google Stadia has proven to be a red herring. Too early to tell if GeForce Now and Project xCloud are going to be equally as dubious. best to wait a few months to get an answer on that.
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