FPS/RPG - Immersive Sim List

[Hermit]

Immersive sim is a game genre that tries to allow the player to follow a rich story with his own playstyle, while being as immersive as possible in often vast and detailed environnements and characters. Theses games are often based on a mix of first person shooter and role playing games elements and tends to provide multiple paths for a single objective. Immersive sims are rare, often underated and not well known, This is why I'd like to list as many immersive sim as possible in this thread. However I'd like to precise that it's based only on my experience, feel free to mention each game that you think belong to this genre.

These are some notable Immersive sim:

- Ultima underworld
- Ultima underworld 2
- Strife
- System shock
- System shock 2
- Thief : The dark project
- Thief 2 : The metal age
- Thief 3 : Deadly shadow
- Thief reboot
- Arx Fatalis
- Deus ex
- Deus ex : The Invisible war
- Deus ex : Human revolution
- Deus ex : The fall
- Deus ex : Mankind divided
- Project Snowblind
- Dark Messiah of Might and Magic
- Vampire the Masquerade - Bloodlines
- S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadow of Chernobyl
- S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Clear sky
- S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Call of Pripyat
- Bioshock
- Bioshock 2
- Bioshock infinite
- Singularity
- E.Y.E. Divine Cybermancy
- Syndicate (reboot)
- Dishonored
- Dishonored 2
- Prey
- City of Brass
- Consortium : The Tower
- We Happy Few *
- Daïkatana* (do that really count?)


Upcoming games :

- Underworld ascendant
- System shock remake
- System shock 3
- S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2
- Atomic Heart
- Cyberpunk 2077

Cancelled Games :

- Arx Fatalis 2 ( actually became Dark Messiah due to Ubisoft having the rights for a M&M game and publishing Arkane at the time)
- The Crossing (cancelled Arkane title too)
- The Black Glove ( made by former Irrationnal Games devs)

* Sorry, I forgot theses :)

[Hermit]

Well, I guess Fallout 3, NV and even 4 could be on the list, their all great and includes both RPG and FPS elements, but Fallout games are more "RPGs with slight FPS gameplay mechanics" than actual Immersive Sim, just my opinion. :) Same goes for the Borderlands franchise, I think. Deus Ex, that game.... Perhaps my personal favorite ^^ I've lost countless hours trying to save Paul in that damn hotel in realistic difficulty ^^

[=CrimsoN=]

Originalmente postado por Ol'Hermit:

Well, I guess Fallout 3, NV and even 4 could be on the list, their all great and includes both RPG and FPS elements, but as said above theses are more "RPGs with slight FPS gameplay mechanics" than actual Immersive Sim, just my opinion. :) Same goes for the Borderlands franchise, I think. Deus Ex, that game.... Perhaps my personal favorite ^^ I've lost countless hours trying to save Paul in that damn hotel in realistic difficulty ^^

In that case, Fallout 3 and New Vegas should definitely be on that list. Fallout 4 is debatable. Fallout 3 and New Vegas are RPGs first and FPS games second. Hell, the STALKER series are more FPS geared than Fallout 3 and New Vegas.

Also, in terms of immersion. With mods you can make Fallout 3 and New Vegas into post-apocalyptic life simulators.

[Hermit]

Originalmente postado por Wooz:

Originalmente postado por Ol'Hermit:

Well, I guess Fallout 3, NV and even 4 could be on the list, their all great and includes both RPG and FPS elements, but as said above theses are more "RPGs with slight FPS gameplay mechanics" than actual Immersive Sim, just my opinion. :) Same goes for the Borderlands franchise, I think. Deus Ex, that game.... Perhaps my personal favorite ^^ I've lost countless hours trying to save Paul in that damn hotel in realistic difficulty ^^

In that case, Fallout 3 and New Vegas should definitely be on that list. Fallout 4 is debatable. Fallout 3 and New Vegas are RPGs first and FPS games second. Hell, the STALKER series are more FPS geared than Fallout 3 and New Vegas.

Also, in terms of immersion. With mods you can make Fallout 3 and New Vegas into post-apocalyptic life simulators.

"RPGs with slight FPS gameplay mechanics" was refering to Fallout 3 and NV ^^ sorry for the misunderstanding, I'm not english :)

I guess you're right about the mods, espacially for NV, but how about The Elder Scrolls serie then?

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

Do the Metro games fit?

And what about the (no pun intended) Metroid games? Specifically the Metroid Prime trilogy.

[highfivingbears]

Originalmente postado por Ol'Hermit:

Originalmente postado por Wooz:

In that case, Fallout 3 and New Vegas should definitely be on that list. Fallout 4 is debatable. Fallout 3 and New Vegas are RPGs first and FPS games second. Hell, the STALKER series are more FPS geared than Fallout 3 and New Vegas.

Also, in terms of immersion. With mods you can make Fallout 3 and New Vegas into post-apocalyptic life simulators.

"RPGs with slight FPS gameplay mechanics" was refering to Fallout 3 and NV ^^ sorry for the misunderstanding, I'm not english :)

I guess you're right about the mods, espacially for NV, but how about The Elder Scrolls serie then?

The Elder Scrolls series isn't really a shooter (unless you count bows and crossbows in the most recent installment), but it is very much definitely and RPG. Seriously, just look at Morrowind. Oblivion is slightly less immersive than Morrowind, and Skyrim is also slightly less immersive than Oblivion due to weird physics (present in TESIII on up) and the quest marker system. It was fine in Oblivion, but it made the game way too easy in Skyrim. Morrowind didn't even have a quest marker system.

Another immersion breaking irk I have with Skyrim (and Oblivion to a lesser extent) is the armor system. In Skyrim, you have the boots, gloves, helmet, and chest piece. In Oblivion, all of those plus the greaves were present. In my opinion, the best armor system was present in Morrowind, where each individual body part could be equipped with a different item. I loved having two mismatched shoulders.

[=CrimsoN=]

Originalmente postado por highfivingbears:

Originalmente postado por Ol'Hermit:

"RPGs with slight FPS gameplay mechanics" was refering to Fallout 3 and NV ^^ sorry for the misunderstanding, I'm not english :)

I guess you're right about the mods, espacially for NV, but how about The Elder Scrolls serie then?

The Elder Scrolls series isn't really a shooter (unless you count bows and crossbows in the most recent installment), but it is very much definitely and RPG. Seriously, just look at Morrowind. Oblivion is slightly less immersive than Morrowind, and Skyrim is also slightly less immersive than Oblivion due to weird physics (present in TESIII on up) and the quest marker system. It was fine in Oblivion, but it made the game way too easy in Skyrim. Morrowind didn't even have a quest marker system.

Another immersion breaking irk I have with Skyrim (and Oblivion to a lesser extent) is the armor system. In Skyrim, you have the boots, gloves, helmet, and chest piece. In Oblivion, all of those plus the greaves were present. In my opinion, the best armor system was present in Morrowind, where each individual body part could be equipped with a different item. I loved having two mismatched shoulders.

I agree with this. Since The Elder Scrolls games aren't exactly shooters, I don't see how they would count (if we are going off your OP). But in terms of immersion, the Elder Scrolls games easily beat Fallout in that area.

[highfivingbears]

Originalmente postado por You See: A Pathetic Loser:

Originalmente postado por highfivingbears:

The Elder Scrolls series isn't really a shooter (unless you count bows and crossbows in the most recent installment), but it is very much definitely and RPG. Seriously, just look at Morrowind. Oblivion is slightly less immersive than Morrowind, and Skyrim is also slightly less immersive than Oblivion due to weird physics (present in TESIII on up) and the quest marker system. It was fine in Oblivion, but it made the game way too easy in Skyrim. Morrowind didn't even have a quest marker system.

Another immersion breaking irk I have with Skyrim (and Oblivion to a lesser extent) is the armor system. In Skyrim, you have the boots, gloves, helmet, and chest piece. In Oblivion, all of those plus the greaves were present. In my opinion, the best armor system was present in Morrowind, where each individual body part could be equipped with a different item. I loved having two mismatched shoulders.

I agree with this. Since The Elder Scrolls games aren't exactly shooters, I don't see how they would count (if we are going off your OP). But in terms of immersion, the Elder Scrolls games easily beat Fallout in that area.

Oh, easily. I would not be surprised if I've dropped over 1500 hours into the entire series, in maybe 6 years of playing.

[Dominic]

Shenmue seems to be missing from the list. That game is very immersive.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/758330/Shenmue_I__II/?snr=1_7_15__13