Your opinion on vegan and vegetarian diets?

[Oliver #MAGA]

Over the years, there has been many reasons brought up as to why one should take up a vegan or a vegetarian diet, and many have different reasons as to why they chose to do so. What do you personally think about vegetarian diets as well as vegan diets and their impact on both themselves and the world? Since they are quite different, I'd find it more reasonable to present seperate opinions on both.

If you are a vegan or a vegetarian, how did you come to decide on becoming one, and what changes has it brought to your life? How long have you followed this diet, and how is it going for you?

Feel free to discuss that on this thread.

[Not Big Surprise]

Messaggio originale di CARLOS:

Messaggio originale di Not Big Surprise:

I looked at enough pictures of teeth. We have teeth to both grind meat and eat vegetals. Don't believe me? Look up "canine teeth". That's just one of the sets that allows us to eat meat.

The human stomach can digest both, doesn't matter if one can be digested better than the other. IF, not THAT. IF.

About that last part, biology class, fourth year, "the proteins we need are found in major quantity in animal cells".

Eat you own waste and see if it's digested and then come at Me with the IF.

Funny we have such small *canines* capable of tearing an envelope.

The textbooks are also influenced by the meat and milk industry, just see the sponsors.

REF: Starch SOlution, China Study.

Diet for a new AMerica

Meat is for Pu$$ies. etc etc

I'm not eating my own waste. It's waste. Why do you eat yours? You told me to eat mine so you must know about eating poo.

Canines are named after dogs, carnivores. All of our molars are specialized to grind meat.

Ye olde conspiracy theory. I could say the same if textbooks and gym advice said eating veggies gives you more proteins than eating meat. And besides.

Veggies are for weaklings who do nothing about their physical weakness.

[Carlos Chircop]

Messaggio originale di Not Big Surprise:

Messaggio originale di CARLOS:

Eat you own waste and see if it's digested and then come at Me with the IF.

Funny we have such small *canines* capable of tearing an envelope.

The textbooks are also influenced by the meat and milk industry, just see the sponsors.

REF: Starch SOlution, China Study.

Diet for a new AMerica

Meat is for Pu$$ies. etc etc

I'm not eating my own waste. It's waste. Why do you eat yours? You told me to eat mine so you must know about eating poo.

Canines are named after dogs, carnivores. All of our molars are specialized to grind meat.

Ye olde conspiracy theory. I could say the same if textbooks and gym advice said eating veggies gives you more proteins than eating meat. And besides.

Veggies are for weaklings who do nothing about their physical weakness.

That makes no sense.

But ok.

[Not Big Surprise]

Messaggio originale di CARLOS:

Messaggio originale di Not Big Surprise:

I'm not eating my own waste. It's waste. Why do you eat yours? You told me to eat mine so you must know about eating poo.

Canines are named after dogs, carnivores. All of our molars are specialized to grind meat.

Ye olde conspiracy theory. I could say the same if textbooks and gym advice said eating veggies gives you more proteins than eating meat. And besides.

Veggies are for weaklings who do nothing about their physical weakness.

That makes no sense.

But ok.

Of course my last paragraph made no sense, I was mocking your last paragraph.

[saranacX]

Much fiber. Good for the poopshoot.

[White Knight]

I first encountered vegetarianism in my early twenties, as a hippie protester. Back then, before PETA started attracting celebrity support, people had more rational arguments.

I was a vegetarian myself, for several years but eventually gave up on it because I didn't believe that was the best choice for me. Eating less meat, still makes a lot of good sense, particularly while there are still people insisting that it must be included with every meal.

Responsible and ethical treatment of animals has always been an excellent cause.

When they strayed off into pseudo-spiritual arguments, they lost me. There are people living in the bush who hunt to feed their families right now. Indigenous cultures the world over, feed themselves in this way, and have been doing so for the past forty thousand years.

Veganism is simply absurd. I get the impression these folks believe they came from other planets or something? Every species on our wonderfully diverse planet is a part of the cycle of life, death and rebirth. Attempting to elevate myself above that seems quite foolish.

We can do better, we can feed the hungry, and an all-meat diet would be as pointless as a non-meat one, in the mind of this omnivore. The last time I had a conversation with vegans, I found myself having to explain why human beings have inscisors, canines and molars?

Not so long ago, I found myself at a party with people taking turns extolling the virtues of veganism. When my turn came, I explained how insulting I found those "virtues" to be for the way they denigrated entire cultures, and millions of years of hominid development.

We agreed to disagree, and kept on drinking.

[aG| Wardog]

Meh, I don’t care what diet you stick to. My problem comes from how many vegans act like they’re somehow superior to peoples who eat meat and animal products.

As long as the animals I’m eating were killed humanely, I’m not fussed. We’ve been eating meat since the dawn of time, more or less, and it’s not like humanity has had any negative impacts because of it.

[Not Big Surprise]

Messaggio originale di White Knight:

I first encountered vegetarianism in my early twenties, as a hippie protester. Back then, before PETA started attracting celebrity support, people had more rational arguments.

I was a vegetarian myself, for several years but eventually gave up on it because I didn't believe that was the best choice for me. Eating less meat, still makes a lot of good sense, particularly while there are still people insisting that it must be included with every meal.

Responsible and ethical treatment of animals has always been an excellent cause.

When they strayed off into pseudo-spiritual arguments, they lost me. There are people living in the bush who hunt to feed their families right now. Indigenous cultures the world over, feed themselves in this way, and have been doing so for the past forty thousand years.

Veganism is simply absurd. I get the impression these folks believe they came from other planets or something? Every species on our wonderfully diverse planet is a part of the cycle of life, death and rebirth. Attempting to elevate myself above that seems quite foolish.

We can do better, we can feed the hungry, and an all-meat diet would be as pointless as a non-meat one, in the mind of this omnivore. The last time I had a conversation with vegans, I found myself having to explain why human beings have inscisors, canines and molars?

Not so long ago, I found myself at a party with people taking turns extolling the virtues of veganism. When my turn came, I explained how insulting I found those "virtues" to be for the way they denigrated entire cultures, and millions of years of hominid development.

We agreed to disagree, and kept on drinking.

I don't care if you're seen as bad in this forum, your standpoint on this is right and very agreeable. I don't know about the rebirth part, and a few others, but the main idea is good.

[trousers]

Messaggio originale di CARLOS:

Messaggio originale di Yoshi's Return:

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Cancer mainly occurs from the meat protein Casein which comes from cow's milk.

Bet the milk industry doesn't want tyou to know that though

casein isn't a carcinogen or a mutagen, it's a largely inert phosphoprotein that some people are allergic to. it can be found in all milks, including human milk.

apparently you've never lost someone to cancer, because if you did, you'd know a lot more about the subject and how absolutely horrible and insidious and devastating it is, and how it's not caused by ♥♥♥♥♥♥' milk

source: my mother never drank milk (and hated cheese) and died from lung cancer (caused by the cigarettes, which she smoked, which were not made from milk*)

*though I will give $1,000,000 to the first person to make cigarettes from milk

[ʙᴜɴ.ᴇ]

Messaggio originale di Wardog:

Meh, I don’t care what diet you stick to. My problem comes from how many vegans act like they’re somehow superior to peoples who eat meat and animal products.

As long as the animals I’m eating were killed humanely, I’m not fussed. We’ve been eating meat since the dawn of time, more or less, and it’s not like humanity has had any negative impacts because of it.

I got invited to a bbq last year, I declined to go because they was cooking meat obviously, I got called weird and awkward.

so meat eaters can be equally as rude to vegans. Just look at all the complaints over here when a bakery chain introduced a vegan sausage roll. All the meat eaters were acting like it was replacing the normal meat one which it wasnt. some vegans do act dumb I can admit but there is also a lot of selfish meat eaters out there.

[Xero_Daxter]

I mean.... people are free to eat what they want but when people are forcing me not to eat a certain item then that's when I have a problem.

[empty]

Always found it weird. Humans were meant to eat both meat and veggies, I don't understand why you would miss out on either one of them.

[Rio]

Theres a whole youtube channel dedicated to vegans who after years had to give it up.

They say its great the first 3-4 years being vegan, but after that health starts to decline according to them.

Every now and then they bring on a new one. Some who used to have pro vegan channels.

[Xero_Daxter]

Morality aside should people limit themselves to what they eat when there are people starving in the world? Before we talk about being vegans we need to focus on world hunger. After that then maybe we can focus on being vegans and not eat meat.

[trousers]

Messaggio originale di 💕 𝓑𝓾𝓷 💕:

Messaggio originale di Wardog:

Meh, I don’t care what diet you stick to. My problem comes from how many vegans act like they’re somehow superior to peoples who eat meat and animal products.

As long as the animals I’m eating were killed humanely, I’m not fussed. We’ve been eating meat since the dawn of time, more or less, and it’s not like humanity has had any negative impacts because of it.

I got invited to a bbq last year, I declined to go because they was cooking meat obviously, I got called weird and awkward.

so meat eaters can be equally as rude to vegans. Just look at all the complaints over here when a bakery chain introduced a vegan sausage roll. All the meat eaters were acting like it was replacing the normal meat one which it wasnt. some vegans do act dumb I can admit but there is also a lot of selfish meat eaters out there.

There weren't really that many complaints, just a vocal minority of complete morons who were in part riled up by a cynical publicity campaign, managed by Gregg's publicity/marketing firm. When Piers Moron ate a vegan sausage roll and upchucked most dramatically on air, I thought, "Oh, wonder who his publicity agents are?" and googled it and they were the same company.

But other than that, mostly just the complete morons. Just don't mistake loud yelling for actual meaningful complaints. Especially not on the internet, where most people don't exist.

[The Weirdist]

Messaggio originale di Espiritista:

Theres a whole youtube channel dedicated to vegans who after years had to give it up.

They say its great the first 3-4 years being vegan, but after that health starts to decline according to them.

Every now and then they bring on a new one. Some who used to have pro vegan channels.

My sister is vegan and she's very healthy, though she does take care of herself. Exercises and eats healthy, all that.