Mods for a game is a BIG sin

[Kyle Nuva]

If your game is supported by the fans, its your customers, thats a very bad sign
all that tells is that the devs are lazy and dont care for a unfinished piece of crap game that mabe bugged, flawed or both and just very very lacking

Lego's bionicle also did this, the fans and shapeways keep it alive, creators and mocers still build with lego today, with shapeways we have made masks that dont even exist or made by lego, even joke items

but back to gaming

Fallout new vegas
you cant run... you cant ♥♥♥♥ing run
no, you need a mod and anything eles to make it better

well that ruins it for me, its reall ♥♥♥♥ing stupid that you walk as if you're in the mud
while the npc's can run. well that isnt fair


Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth
i love what i see but the game play is♥♥♥♥♥
TF2 has the shop and its full of items

Zelda: BOTW
it didnt need mods but i seen some cool and silly joke mods

Hawken
didnt have mods but i loved it
but the devs didnt care


inconclusion
if a game is so bad and they gave up
its not their game anymore

once fans have fixed their mess, its our game now

[Florida Man]

A "sin"? Is there a God of Gaming now?

Mods can be good. Cities Skylines would not be nearly as good if players couldn't recreate real world buildings and brands to upload. It's not necessary mods, but it really fleshed out the experience.

[crgzero]

Messaggio originale di NX3DT:

Messaggio originale di crgzero:

Any Bethesda game really.

The game without mods has a 94 score.

A score given by whom? The gaming site that consistently scores games with reviews from Editors who never actually plays them?

Also, I believe the game you're mentioning was only PUBLISHED by Bethesda, not dev'd by them. Big difference.

[Mighty Chonker]

Messaggio originale di pulled close by its pliers:

Messaggio originale di NX3DT:

The game without mods has a 94 score.

Sounds like a lot of people with low standards.

more like a lot have to high of a standard

[Washell]

Messaggio originale di Laughing Wrecker:

The limitations put on the release of Fallout New Vegas were all done by Bethesda Softworks.

The time limit, the meta critic score for the bonus, and all other stuff were negotiated and agreed upon by *both* parties. I read somewhere that the metacritic bonus was suggested by Obsidian as a way to get more payment vs a higher guaranteed base sum. They should have been smarter and negotiated several bonuses for several meta critic rating ranges.

I will admit that Obsidian had the weaker negotiating position.

[Mighty Chonker]

metacritic is lame

[Arvaos]

Messaggio originale di Spawn of Totoro:

Messaggio originale di pulled close by its pliers:

Sounds like a lot of people with low standards.

Or a lot of people with a different opinion.

I've never used mods on a Bethesda game until 400 hours into Skyrim, then it was a minimal ammount. I still enjoyed all of them.

Many people compare Skyrim to modern games which is not a fair comparison.

At the time, the graphics were excellent and it is still considered one of the best roleplaying games by many people.

[Zefar]

First time playing Skyrim I played it for quite a long time before adding mods. Mostly because mods was uncommon in the start and they hadn't gotten the right quality.

But when the game had gotten plenty of mods and I had stopped playing it for a while I re installed it + a lot of mods.

Same with Fallout 4.

[fossil2020]

if the game can be fixed with mods, and they fix it well, who cares?

[Γαῖα]

Thats a big statement OP but not without some merit i suppose.
The thing about games is we can all think of things extra we would have liked in them and mods are a way of making that happen. Mods are also useful for giving an old game a fresh lick of TLC.
Where mods fall down is really with regard to modern games but only the ones regarding having to clean up bugs, improve texures (not recolor for fancy), you get the picture.
For some people making mods is like people doing artwork. Its a passion, a hobby and i wouldnt want to be the one to stand in the way of that.

[gugnihr]

I have played more than 1000 hours on Skyrim and the only mod I have ever used is The forgotten city, which just add a new quest and don't fix bugs of the original game.
I don't feel the need of anything the only thing that really bothers me and I would like to fix is the ash piles that don't disappear. I mean even after a while they NEVER disappear and as far as I know it is a bug. That really is annoying. Other than that the game is more than fine and all the other bugs that I have encountered were not particularly annoying.

[s w e k]

I've played Skyrim ever since it was released. I played countless hours of that game before adding even one mod (with and without DLC).