Thoughts on MGTOW? (Men Going Their Own Way)

[Toast]

As described: "MGTOW - Men Going Their Own Way - is a statement of self-ownership, where the modern man preserves and protects his own sovereignty above all else. It is the manifestation of one word: "No". Ejecting silly preconceptions and cultural definitions of what a man is. Looking to no one else for social cues. Refusing to bow, serve and kneel for the opportunity to be treated like a disposable utility. And, living according to his own best interests in a world which would rather he didn't."

Some think it's the only hope for men in a deeply feminized society. What are your thoughts?

[Rio]

Its just a group for guys who want to focus on themselves.

[TVMAN]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Callista:

What are your thoughts?

It's just a rebranding of Incel, since those "men" likely don't have any other options anyway. Turns out repellent chuds are still repellent and unappealing to women regardless of what they call themselves.

[Rio]

No Incel are single not by choice. Mgt are single by choice.

One group is angry to be single. The other celebrates being single.

[TVMAN]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Fall'n holes:

No Incel are single not by choice. Mgt are single by choice

lmfao they can claim whatever they want, but I'd bet money on it not being a choice.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Florida Man:

The thing is, a real man going their own way wouldn't have to shout it out to anyone or go under some silly label.

Exactly.

[Florida Man]

The thing is, a real man going their own way wouldn't have to shout it out to anyone or go under some silly label.

[Zubenelgenubi]

I think there's a tendency for simple minded people to judge all of a race or gender based on a single experience with them. I'm sure these guys had terrible experiences with women, but there are still good ones out there.

And it's not even just a male thing. Lots of women do the same after one or two bad experiences with men, but that's not looked upon the same as MGTOW.

[Rio]

Also them big mgtow youtubers seem to do well financally. I don't watch them anymore, beside raging golden eagle. And thats because he talks gaming, cenorship in gaming/media, and bits of other stuff.

He has nuggets of wisdom here and there. Like his video on how the price of free things is often your privacy.

[Sixtyfivekills]

Can't say I've met anyone like that to know, online descriptions can make anything seem questionable.

[Florida Man]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Zubenelgenubi:

I think there's a tendency for simple minded people to judge all of a race or gender based on a single experience with them. I'm sure these guys had terrible experiences with women, but there are still good ones out there.

Just because she's a good woman doesn't mean she won't leave you and take the kids years on when the love runs dry

[Zubenelgenubi]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Florida Man:

Just because she's a good woman doesn't mean she won't leave you and take the kids years on when the love runs dry

Truly good women don't do that. But i will admit they're in short supply these days. Although the same could be said about men. It's like modern men and women are having some kind of demented contest to see who can be the most selfish and evil. Everyone is slowly becoming psychopaths.

[Arvaos]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย TVMAN:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Callista:

What are your thoughts?

It's just a rebranding of Incel, since those "men" likely don't have any other options anyway. Turns out repellent chuds are still repellent and unappealing to women regardless of what they call themselves.

Many of the men part of MGTOW have had marriages and relationships.

Why does it concern you if men choose not to marry? Should we still judge people because they are not married?

[White Knight]

I think anyone could benefit by turning their backs on a vapid and shallow society of greedy, thoughtless people. Sex has nothing to do with it, and this isn't "new". Many people, men and women, have been doing this since humanity began.

Aside from that, what little I've seen from this movement is thoroughly unimpressive. It looks like a bunch of bitter people who are incapable of accepting personal responsibility. So they hide their broken, toxic, prejudices behind a veil of "making a choice".

I live alone and am basically a part-time hermit. I also would never associate myself with the people you are talking about. I don't play the "dating game" anymore but I still love women.

[CryHavoc&LetSlipTheCreepsOfWar]

I wish you had put "Some think it's the only hope for men in a deeply feminized society" before the description, then I wouldn't have wasted my time reading it.

A deeply feminized society. Are you serious?

[Gus the Crocodile]

Just another instance of the ”boring dudes with no critical thinking or self-reflection skills blaming their problems on anything and everything but themselves” genre.

[White Knight]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Riedy:

People are free to do whatever as long as it doesn't harm anyone else, but you can't really make a comment on society if your sense of reality is blurred by the bubble you're living in. ^^

Or are you just comforting yourself with assumptions because my opinions are uncomfortable for you? What you say may well be right but my views were not formed after I decided to spend less of my time around other people.

You're confusing the chicken for the egg.

I could go on Tinder or something, say the words I'm expected to say and go out on multiple dates today. That doesn't interest me, so I won't bother.

Instead, I'll live my life the best way I can, be true to my own values, and hopefully, find a way to feel useful and somewhat productive with my remaining years left on this planet. If that's not good enough for society, then I'll just hang out with my dog.

With over 7 billion people on this planet, I'm sure there are plenty of women out there to meet and get along with. If and when I bump into one of them, I'll invite her out for a drink and see what happens.