Thoughts on MGTOW? (Men Going Their Own Way)

[Toast]

As described: "MGTOW - Men Going Their Own Way - is a statement of self-ownership, where the modern man preserves and protects his own sovereignty above all else. It is the manifestation of one word: "No". Ejecting silly preconceptions and cultural definitions of what a man is. Looking to no one else for social cues. Refusing to bow, serve and kneel for the opportunity to be treated like a disposable utility. And, living according to his own best interests in a world which would rather he didn't."

Some think it's the only hope for men in a deeply feminized society. What are your thoughts?

[L1qu1dator]

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Publicado originalmente por Scarlet Overkill:

Why would it matter if a girl would have fcked a lot of guys.. or a guy had fcked a lot of girls.. when two people meet eachother and feel the connection and that they are right for eachother then u gotta let go of the past... no? besides - I actually feel good if a guy has slept around, at leasy he has run off his "horns" lol, and knows what he wants and can settle down and not feel that he is "missing something" or that he hasnt experienced something that he would like to

If someone's changing stuff a lot, I would say it means that someone doesn't know what he/she want...
*Seems more logical...

But then again some people follow different kind of "logic", and people also ♥♥♥♥ logic when there's a cutie on the horizon to mate with... so yeah keep ignoring me.

[FluffyBunny]

Publicado originalmente por L1qu1dator:

Publicado originalmente por L1qu1dator:

If someone's changing stuff a lot, I would say it means that someone doesn't know what he/she want...
*Seems more logical...

But then again some people follow different kind of "logic", and people also ♥♥♥♥ logic when there's a cutie on the horizon to mate with... so yeah keep ignoring me.

All true.. and then again... how can you know what you want if you are young and stupid? :D haha. But hey - hands up to whomever in their young age knows exactly what they want and it turns out how they wish for.

[L1qu1dator]

Publicado originalmente por Scarlet Overkill:

Publicado originalmente por L1qu1dator:

But then again some people follow different kind of "logic", and people also ♥♥♥♥ logic when there's a cutie on the horizon to mate with... so yeah keep ignoring me.

All true.. and then again... how can you know what you want if you are young and stupid? :D haha. But hey - hands up to whomever in their young age knows exactly what they want and it turns out how they wish for.

That's why I would be against dating before 20's

[Toast]

Publicado originalmente por Scarlet Overkill:

You sound like one of those feminists who think logic is oppressive.

Really? because I dont agree that people cant change or that things you might have done in the past means that you will Definately do it in the future too?
Yeah.. makes so much sense.

And you think that's the reason I called you out? Really? Well, I think you just proved my point.

[Naedmi]

If I'm going to be making a life choice I won't be doing it by joining any groups, those choices are my own to make. I'd only join in group therapy if it were about the abuse I've received, but even then I've come out of that situation without needing any form of therapy from anyone other than myself.

Back when I was first growing I thought groups were good things but as I grew I realized most were just massive circle-jerks attempting to prove points and single out other people to make them look bad in the process.

[FluffyBunny]

Publicado originalmente por Callista:

Publicado originalmente por Scarlet Overkill:

Really? because I dont agree that people cant change or that things you might have done in the past means that you will Definately do it in the future too?
Yeah.. makes so much sense.

And you think that's the reason I called you out? Really? Well, I think you just proved my point.

Hey - point proven - I dont make any topics about "feminized world" and how guys should gather together.
Lol. Dont take life so seriously

[FluffyBunny]

Publicado originalmente por L1qu1dator:

Publicado originalmente por Scarlet Overkill:

All true.. and then again... how can you know what you want if you are young and stupid? :D haha. But hey - hands up to whomever in their young age knows exactly what they want and it turns out how they wish for.

That's why I would be against dating before 20's

Thats actually what I would suggest. haha. have your fun when you are young. Have it before you turn 20 and in your 20s and when you meet someone you like then you know it. :)
It obviously doesnt mean that you cant meet the right person for you the first time :)

[Toast]

Publicado originalmente por Scarlet Overkill:

Publicado originalmente por Callista:

And you think that's the reason I called you out? Really? Well, I think you just proved my point.

Hey - point proven - I dont make any topics about "feminized world" and how guys should gather together.
Lol. Dont take life so seriously

You also literally don't know anything about how to read. Expected from such a low IQ person. When did I ever say "guys should gather together"? Try to gather all your reading comprehension and give this an earnest effort: "Men going their own way"

Capisci?

[White Knight]

Publicado originalmente por Callista:

You also literally don't know anything about how to read. Expected from such a low IQ person...

Writes the guy, in a text-based forum, responding to comments left in the thread he created?

[Toast]

Publicado originalmente por White Knight:

Publicado originalmente por Callista:

You also literally don't know anything about how to read. Expected from such a low IQ person...

Writes the guy, in a text-based forum, responding to comments left in the thread he created?

And your point is?

[s w e k]

Publicado originalmente por Callista:

You sound like one of those feminists who think logic is oppressive.

Do you think all feminists think the same way? I'm also curious if you believe SJWs and feminists are the same thing. My definition of a SJW is basically a radical "feminist"

People seem to lump in all the radicals with the rational thinking people that happen to be feminist, and use the radicals to discredit the people with good arguements. I've found that people are so quick to label someone an SJW without even considering what they were saying.

[Arvaos]

Publicado originalmente por Gus the Crocodile:

Publicado originalmente por NX3DT:

There is a difference between having sex with a monogamous and loving partner compared to promiscuity with multiple partners or having sex with strangers.

You realise this says nothing, right? There’s a difference between going hiking and having a bath, but that doesn’t mean there’s a problem with doing either of those things.

A woman sleeping with a few boyfriends from her past compared to hundreds of strangers she met at bars, clubs or on dating websites says nothing about her personal character? Perhaps you are someone that likes promiscuous women and would even be happy to share your girlfriend with other men.

Devotion, commitment, virtue, honour, decency shouldn't be values of a marriage?

[Gus the Crocodile]

Publicado originalmente por NX3DT:

A woman sleeping with a few boyfriends from her past compared to hundreds of strangers she met at bars, clubs or on dating websites says nothing about her personal character?

That’s some serious goalpost-moving. The category you’re now defending (sleeping with a few boyfriends) falls under the category you were attacking before (having multiple partners). I assume this indicates you understand that your previous position was absurd and indefensible?

Publicado originalmente por NX3DT:

Perhaps you are someone that likes promiscuous women and would even be happy to share your girlfriend with other men.

Perhaps you’re a bag of urine? Or maybe that’s a ridiculous thing to say.

Publicado originalmente por NX3DT:

Devotion, commitment, virtue, honour, decency shouldn't be values of a marriage?

No idea why you’re asking this. I haven’t said anything remotely like this. All I did was object to the idea that there’s a problem with women enjoying sex with multiple people.

[Vince ✟]

Internet groups aren't real so whatever they prefer to call it and what they do idc

[Kris]

Whoa whoa. Who says monogamy is rare among women? I know an absurd number of women who are the complete opposite of promiscuous, what many would call "prudes". Either waiting until marriage or with a long-term partner. They go so far as to think they're pure and cleaner than those who aren't virgins or have done it with more men. I would actually say most women in the world do not want to be known as sluts. Sure, there are exceptions (not saying they're sluts, I mean they just don't care what others think), but they're not a majority at all. Being a woman who isn't promiscuous isn't rare. On top of that, women especially shouldn't be judging other women, and when you act like they're rare, you're just separating them from each other which could cause more fighting.

Finally it's been brought up, but haha funny how we fault women for sex and not men, right?

As for the movement, it's up to the men. It sounds a little silly to me, but some of them have been through some major stuff with women and I don't blame them at all. I think women should think more about that sort of stuff for sure before they head into any relationship, but I wouldn't say we're living in a deeply feminized society either.