PC gaming on 65" tv

[Enrichetto]

How many of you , have the pc connected to the televison in the living room?
have you managed to solve the problem of playing the PC sitting on the couch?
It is possible to build a powerful pc , in a case big as a console? with powerfull i mean a pc with a i7/i9 processor and a nvidia rtx 2070/2080 , able to play content in 4K hdr at 60fps, without problems. on my sony xf9005/x900f , the game in 4k 60fps are amazing, but at lower fps the tv shows me some immage defects ,so i need the 60fps. Playing with the ps4 pro is terrible for example at 30fps.
However, some of you actualy play pc on his 4k tv? (sorry if my english isn't correct)

[EliteGamer]

Rock solid 60fps is only possible if you’re playing old games and having V-SYNC on is just terrible as it adds input lag. The problem with all demanding games is, they’ll dip below 60 FPS at 4K even with the best GPU.... and that’s why G-SYNC is important at 4K. Without G-SYNC, dipping below 60 FPS, even 59 FPS , it will feel like you’re gaming at 30 FPS not 59 FPS. With G-SYNC, 59 FPS and 60 FPS feel the same. With G-SYNC, 50 - 60 FPS you won’t notice much difference.

[Monk]

for a tv, im using one of LGs nano tvs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEtU_yewa8o as you can see, while not as good as a monitor, its not far off a 60Hz gaming panel

also, not seen anything below 60fps with the 2080ti and 9900k, though id guess super crazy games like wildlands and kingdom come would change that, perhaps your 4k tv wasnt as good ?

[EliteGamer]

Since when have LG TV’s been good at anything...

My TV was very good, I don’t buy anything that isn’t good, but compared to my XB271HK 4K G-SYNC 4ms IPS monitor, it doesn’t matter how good my TV was, the XB271HK is on another level.

[Enrichetto]

i use the v-sync because my tv not support freesync, and even i have 60fps, i see tearing without the v-sync on. And on a 65" tv i see a BIG tearing.

[EliteGamer]

With 60hz, use fast sync.

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引用自 EliteGamer：

“Couch gaming” is for consoles. Don’t expect good results using a TV as a monitor. I did that, and bare in mind the TV I used was super high end and even that sucks compared to a monitor that was designed just to be used with a PC. You can’t beat a monitors input lag and G-SYNC....

I’ve been gaming at 4K now for 4 years, I’ll tell you, you’ll need G-SYNC at that resolution because you’ll mostly be around 50-60 FPS at ultra settings and without G-SYNC at those frames, it will look terrible. Also TV input lag is terrible. Gaming on TV is ok if you game with a controller like an Xbox controller, but playing FPS games with mouse feels ultra laggy with a TV... and moving cursor around desktop with TV is painfully bad.

Wrong. I game on a sony bravia tv 40" and use keyboard and mouse for all games from racing to tps to fps and have 0 input lag. Infact that is mostly what my games are, are tps and fps. And i have 0 Yes 0 input lag. When i hit my mouse button to shoot it shoots right then and there no ms lag at all. Sorry but your not elite at nothing but trolling.

[EliteGamer]

Hahaha Sony Bravia tv with 0 input lag.....thanks for the humour kid.

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引用自 EliteGamer：

Hahaha Sony Bravia tv with 0 input lag.....thanks for the humour kid.

Sorry i'm not a kid but thanks for insulting me. And yes i have no lag at all. I don't think someone that is so full of themselves to believe it. But look as i type this out the letters are showing up as soon as i hit the key on my razor keyboard. No lag at all. Using HDMI for the connection. Heck my tv even has a vga port on it which hasn't been used at all.

[EliteGamer]

There’s a damn good reason why I’m so full of myself.... I know my stuff. Tv’s just suck when using as a pc monitor. Obviously you think your tv has zero input lag because you haven’t used a quality monitor, I thought the same when I used a tv as pc monitor before I used a monitor. When I got a monitor, I never connected the tv to the pc ever again! Monitor does everything much better.

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引用自 EliteGamer：

There’s a damn good reason why I’m so full of myself.... I know my stuff. Tv’s just suck when using as a pc monitor. Obviously you think your tv has zero input lag because you haven’t used a quality monitor, I thought the same when I used a tv as pc monitor before I used a monitor. When I got a monitor, I never connected the tv to the pc ever again! Monitor does everything much better.

What ever i have no lag just like my gsync monitor has no lag. So yea you don't know jack. Because it's the same on both tv and monitor. No lag at all during same exact tests. So yea you really don't know jack.

[EliteGamer]

This is why I should just ignore “private accounts”......

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引用自 Miss Ann Thrope：

引用自 Connoisseur of Tanqueray：

What ever i have no lag just like my gsync monitor has no lag. So yea you don't know jack. Because it's the same on both tv and monitor. No lag at all during same exact tests. So yea you really don't know jack.

I'd take anything written by an "EliteGamer" with a grain of salt. He's probably one of those people who buys expensive mousepads, thinking it will give him a competitive advantage in his games.

Yea i see this. I hate people who think they know every freaking thing there is to know. Thanks for the heads up and have a great new year.

[Washell]

引用自 Miss Ann Thrope：

I'd take anything written by an "EliteGamer" with a grain of salt. He's probably one of those people who buys expensive mousepads, thinking it will give him a competitive advantage in his games.

I argue with him, to provide a counter point to other people reading this and helping them make a decision. I have no doubt about my inability to change his mind.

On a more personal note, I'm willing to accept he's sensitive to input lag and that for him the difference is indeed unbearable. However, given the amount of money those displays cost and the absolute lack of rationality or willingness to accept a counterpoint, I'm more likely to believe he's dealing with post-purchase rationalization. I'll also admit to a bit of jealousy on my end.

In cognitive science, choice-supportive bias or post-purchase rationalization is the tendency to retroactively ascribe positive attributes to an option one has selected. It is a cognitive bias. For example, if a person chooses option A instead of option B, they are likely to ignore or downplay the faults of option A while amplifying those of option B. Conversely, they are also likely to notice and amplify the advantages of option A and not notice or de-emphasize those of option B.

As to the topic at hand, hundreds of millions of consoles sold in the past decades conclusively prove it isn't an issue for most people. And if you think console gamers aren't sensitive to timing, you've never spoken to a fighting game enthusiast.

[EliteGamer]

Well I know a Sony Bravia tv is no good as a pc monitor. Heck, they ain’t even good for tv use , so what makes you think they’re good as a pc monitor.....pmsl

[EliteGamer]

I must be wrong.... I didn’t know tv’s got a massive upgrade in such short notice. I never knew they used the 0 lag Sony Bravia tv’s at tournaments.