Played a PS4 today

[bRice153]

I have been a PC gamer for a long time ever since Xbox 360. I have never really played console games since then. I was at my friends today and he let me play God of War.

I will say the game is absolutely beautiful and the story is damn fantastic I can't think of any game on PC that even comes close to the overall production value.

But my issue started when I tried to play the game. I think I am just so used to 60fps playing at 30fps is just so uncomfortable for me, I can not enjoy the game at all because it feels like slow motion. So I had to watch him play and it was much more enjoyable.

Does this happen to anyone else? Are you able to enjoy 30fps gaming?

[Randy Marsh]

Difference between them all.

PC has no Paywall to play Multiplayer/Online.

[bRice153]

Publicado originalmente por EDP445:

Difference between them all.

PC has no Paywall to play Multiplayer/Online.

To be fair $50/year is not asking much plus you get thousands of dollars worth of games a year in free monthly downloads. I'd say it's worth getting PS+

[Mikasa Ackerman]

Publicado originalmente por bRice153:

Publicado originalmente por EDP445:

Difference between them all.

PC has no Paywall to play Multiplayer/Online.

To be fair $50/year is not asking much plus you get thousands of dollars worth of games a year in free monthly downloads. I'd say it's worth getting PS+

thousands of dollars ? lmao
you get digital games you cant chose ,sell or anything , just as humble bundle giveaways have no value , neither have playstation plus games , also from what i noticed , sony has a tactic with these games , i think they gave away an older god of war game shortly before the newest came out , make people see a franchise is fun , shortly before the new entry gets released

also , dont you lose the games if you stop paying ? so in the end its just a game rental store , you pay money to temporarily rent games

and another thing , if ps+ was so worth it and a great deal , dont you think sony would make it its own thing and make playing online free ? after all if its so worth it for the free games, they wouldnt have to bundle it with the ability to play online

[L7vanmatre]

Publicado originalmente por Sakura Haruno:

Publicado originalmente por bRice153:

To be fair $50/year is not asking much plus you get thousands of dollars worth of games a year in free monthly downloads. I'd say it's worth getting PS+

thousands of dollars ? lmao
you get digital games you cant chose ,sell or anything , just as humble bundle giveaways have no value , neither have playstation plus games , also from what i noticed , sony has a tactic with these games , i think they gave away an older god of war game shortly before the newest came out , make people see a franchise is fun , shortly before the new entry gets released

also , dont you lose the games if you stop paying ? so in the end its just a game rental store , you pay money to temporarily rent games

and another thing , if ps+ was so worth it and a great deal , dont you think sony would make it its own thing and make playing online free ? after all if its so worth it for the free games, they wouldnt have to bundle it with the ability to play online

Or at the very least, allow P2P games to actually play without PS+. It angers me so much that they do this, when there's almost NO cost (relatively) on Sony's part to allow a P2P game to be a thing without port forwarding.

I'd understand with dedicated servers, but not P2P.

[Morphic]

Publicado originalmente por L7vanmatre:

Publicado originalmente por Sakura Haruno:

thousands of dollars ? lmao
you get digital games you cant chose ,sell or anything , just as humble bundle giveaways have no value , neither have playstation plus games , also from what i noticed , sony has a tactic with these games , i think they gave away an older god of war game shortly before the newest came out , make people see a franchise is fun , shortly before the new entry gets released

also , dont you lose the games if you stop paying ? so in the end its just a game rental store , you pay money to temporarily rent games

and another thing , if ps+ was so worth it and a great deal , dont you think sony would make it its own thing and make playing online free ? after all if its so worth it for the free games, they wouldnt have to bundle it with the ability to play online

Or at the very least, allow P2P games to actually play without PS+. It angers me so much that they do this, when there's almost NO cost (relatively) on Sony's part to allow a P2P game to be a thing without port forwarding.

I'd understand with dedicated servers, but not P2P.

@Sakura

Literally everyone uses that tactic though. New Final Fantasy coming out? Square Sale on FF games. New Paradox game rolling out? Paradox Sale. Furthermore PS+ is what contributes to the dedicated server maintenance, pretty much any MP Sony game still has a Server or two running regardless of how long ago it came out unless it is specifically stated it doesn't. Also you don't "lose" those games if you stop paying. You just can't download them again or access them. However if you have them installed on your "Home/Primary" Console you can still play them, you just can't renew the License for it. However once you pay for PS+ again you immediately regain access to all those "free" games and can renew the Licenses infinitely again.

Stop blanket hating consoles when you don't fully understand the way they work.

@L7vanmatre

I agree. I shouldn't have to pay a Fee that is intended to support and maintain Servers when I am connecting to a person using a Tin Can and Aluminum Foil as their ISP and thus get a lossy PvP/CoOp match.

@Topic.

I don't mind 30FPS provided it is a stable 30. If it were to drop to more than 5FPS I would just rage quit for most games; it's soo offputting and sluggish to me.

[Mikasa Ackerman]

Publicado originalmente por Setzway:

Publicado originalmente por L7vanmatre:

Or at the very least, allow P2P games to actually play without PS+. It angers me so much that they do this, when there's almost NO cost (relatively) on Sony's part to allow a P2P game to be a thing without port forwarding.

I'd understand with dedicated servers, but not P2P.

@Sakura

Literally everyone uses that tactic though. New Final Fantasy coming out? Square Sale on FF games. New Paradox game rolling out? Paradox Sale. Furthermore PS+ is what contributes to the dedicated server maintenance, pretty much any MP Sony game still has a Server or two running regardless of how long ago it came out unless it is specifically stated it doesn't. Also you don't "lose" those games if you stop paying. You just can't download them again or access them. However if you have them installed on your "Home/Primary" Console you can still play them, you just can't renew the License for it. However once you pay for PS+ again you immediately regain access to all those "free" games and can renew the Licenses infinitely again.

Stop blanket hating consoles when you don't fully understand the way they work.

square enix makes sales even without a new FF coming out , the thing is , these are discounts , meanwhile , on playstation they give you an old game , shortly before the new one comes out so you buy the new one

and if i cant download or use them , it pretty much is losing them

[Morphic]

Publicado originalmente por Sakura Haruno:

square enix makes sales even without a new FF coming out , the thing is , these are discounts , meanwhile , on playstation they give you an old game , shortly before the new one comes out so you buy the new one

Right, so one place gives you a discount on old games so if you want the old game you still pay X .... and you still buy the new one.

Or you get an old one for "Free" .... and still buy the new one.

Also, it's not like it happens for every single game. It's usually either the super popular ones or Sony titles... which M$ does the same thing for Xbox too. Though I did find it funny Sony gave out SOMA for free and GoG did the same thing provided you bought something on their store lol.

Personally I rarely care about the "Free" games since 8/10 times I don't like them anyway due to my tastes. Though getting Bloodborne with all DLC 2 years later was pretty nice albeit with a dead MP scene lol.

IMO, the more interesting option is the Sony Vue or whatever the Instant Play thing is. You pay ~$50 a year but get access to thousands of titles, even recent titles(1 yr old ones). However it is a "Streaming Service" which has me really dubious about quality so I refuse to even try it lol.

[Randy Marsh]

Publicado originalmente por bRice153:

Publicado originalmente por EDP445:

Difference between them all.

PC has no Paywall to play Multiplayer/Online.

To be fair $50/year is not asking much plus you get thousands of dollars worth of games a year in free monthly downloads. I'd say it's worth getting PS+

That's ridiculous.

[The Badger (née Poignion)]

Is it fair to say I have a console because although I enjoy PC it's just too much effort to use a PC instead?

[juiced 2x1]

lol my ps4 has been paperweight for 2 years

[Mikasa Ackerman]

Publicado originalmente por 4nalblitzkrieg:

lol my ps4 has been paperweight for 2 years

only 2 ?

[Chemistara]

As someone who play games under 30 fps, eh sure.

But remember, only play PS4 for the exclusives (you should try Bloodborne if you got the guts)

[bRice153]

Yes. The total amount of games they gave away with PS+ for 2018 was $1,440.79 worth of games if you were to buy them all individually.

[bRice153]

Any way you put it PS+is a great deal for only $50 a year.

[ハイイロギツネ]

Publicado originalmente por bRice153:

Publicado originalmente por EDP445:

Difference between them all.

PC has no Paywall to play Multiplayer/Online.

To be fair $50/year is not asking much plus you get thousands of dollars worth of games a year in free monthly downloads. I'd say it's worth getting PS+

What people do not mention is that online console services have better moderation and less hackers as well.

Play any old Call of Duty game on PC and the game will have many hackers.