Is there any better lifestyle then NEET

[WanderingNeverWondering]

Imagine being free of wage slavery or school,living off tendies and the interweb ,no longer having to deal with normie standards and hygine. if you ever questioned what the highest standard of human life is then here

[gugnihr]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Wandering Never Wondering:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Wooden Board:

Capitalist. Period.

captialists are neets , theyre basically making money and taking risks just for fun. after the succsess has pretty much set theyre life up they dont have to do anything

That's what everybody thinks when they start working, expecially if their job is highly qualified, they think "great, I'm done, I achieved everything and now I just have to harvest the results" but actually work is a trap and those kind of works are even worse traps. Once you are in they demand more and more of your time and resources. You earn a lot, you begin to buy expensive things, you make a couple of kids, the trap around you gets always more tight and inescapable.

If you want to be a NEET and take risks while at it, well, good luck, you are going to need a whole lot of it.

[gugnihr]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย HolyCactus:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Wandering Never Wondering:

there is no Objective meaning for existence

Reproduction.

Reproduction is not a good thing for you, you are a tool in that case, not the one who will gain anything from it. Society gain something from it, life (I guess) gain something from it, human species gain something from it, whoever or whatever decided that life had to work this way probably gain something from it (I guess), not you.
You are getting used when you procreate.
You are giving something, you are putting yourself and your resources to use not for your own self, but for someone else / something else.
Maybe this is the objective meaning of life, but we as individuals shouldn't care if that's so, because it is not good for us.
We are treated like slaves, like tools, so I don't care about life's objective meanings when life doesn't care about my own needs and desires.
I have no reasons to.
People should be aware of their own self and stop being servile towards things like life and society that are so harsh towards them in return.

[WanderingNeverWondering]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย gugnihr:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Wandering Never Wondering:

captialists are neets , theyre basically making money and taking risks just for fun. after the succsess has pretty much set theyre life up they dont have to do anything

That's what everybody thinks when they start working, expecially if their job is highly qualified, they think "great, I'm done, I achieved everything and now I just have to harvest the results" but actually work is a trap and those kind of works are even worse traps. Once you are in they demand more and more of your time and resources. You earn a lot, you begin to buy expensive things, you make a couple of kids, the trap around you gets always more tight and inescapable.

If you want to be a NEET and take risks while at it, well, good luck, you are going to need a whole lot of it.

the neet will not wait to be at peace,we want all of our time since alone its best spent ,normie luxury and offspring are no concern.capitalists find worth only in their work but not in their bland lives

[WanderingNeverWondering]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Rogue Titan:

from the moment you are born the brainwashing starts.they feed you all these things about how you must do this and that .you must go to college,you must work,you must have friends,you must get married,you must be useful to society.......this is the only path to achieve happiness
it's all just one fat lie.society is false,a lie and a joke
this is how they control you.once you believe the lies you become just another mindless puppet,a dog and a liar
everyone is too blinded to see the truth.....

the majority were always wrong and always will be

[HolyCactus]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย gugnihr:

selfish rambling

I have never seen anyone go and write something so deluded in my entire life. You are not being 'used' when you have kids, that only happens if you do near everything wrong. Not everyone is meant to reproduce to begin with. Having kids is an extension of your own self and there IS a reward for it. If you want to drop out of life, so be it. Using what you said I could easily argue that by developing conscious thought, a good portion of humanity has doomed itself by ceasing the most basic thing in life.
I'm not saying just to have a ton of kids, careful reproduction is important as well. I'm saying that being against something like that is a pure sign of modern decay.

[Rascal]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Rogue Titan:

from the moment you are born the brainwashing starts.they feed you all these things about how you must do this and that .you must go to college,you must work,you must have friends,you must get married,you must be useful to society.......this is the only path to achieve happiness
it's all just one fat lie.society is false,a lie and a joke
this is how they control you.once you believe the lies you become just another mindless puppet,a dog and a liar
everyone is too blinded to see the truth.....

youve kinda got a catch all there dont you? if i argue, according to you, im brainwashed, if im doing well in this "society" then im one of the brainwashers?
cos theres no way id wanna end up like the type of person OP claims to be, it sounds very....empty.
could be you guys are maybe just as whacked out as ppl say you are?
just putting that out there...


Edit: not got kids, dont want any, have a lovely partner whod rather do the same things id like to, stable income, not what you guys would define as a "wage slave" si im really confused as to where you think this "pressure" is coming from. ive never felt it.

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Provide pics of your room/basement to verify that you are living the NEET life.

[gugnihr]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย HolyCactus:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย gugnihr:

selfish rambling

Having kids is an extension of your own self and there IS a reward for it.

This is worse than false. This is like a lie cubed.
Unless you identify yourself with the content of your gonads instead of the content of your brain and your personality.
Because only a portion of the content of your gonads will be "extended" in the kids one make, nothing else.
If you are lucky enough to get along well with your kids then your personality will be remembered and affect their own, yes, but you absolutely cannot be sure about that, it is a very high risk and the "reward" if you want to call it that way is absolutely not worth such a huge risk.
Because if you don't get along well with your kids you will ruin both your own life and their life too (and the life of your partner as well probably).
And as I said you cannot know that for sure in advance. One could be just hated or despised by his kids, you really cannot know in advance.

I would go as far as to say that imo it is "less unsafe" to adopt a child than making one, because if you adopt a child you have the chance to at least choose one and get to know him at least a little bit before getting to live together. This is not 100% safe either of course, but I think it is a much better place to start.

Not to mention that it is also extremely selfish and disrespectful towards children as individuals to say that a child is an extension of his parent.

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โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Mattmoo:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Fenrir:

What's NEET?

Someone who stays home and doesn’t participate much in society, no education, employment or training.

So a basically a bum with no life.

[﴾﴾ۣۜkala]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย gugnihr:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย HolyCactus:

Having kids is an extension of your own self and there IS a reward for it.

This is worse than false. This is like a lie cubed.
Unless you identify yourself with the content of your gonads instead of the content of your brain and your personality.
Because only a portion of the content of your gonads will be "extended" in the kids one make, nothing else.
If you are lucky enough to get along well with your kids then your personality will be remembered and affect their own, yes, but you absolutely cannot be sure about that, it is a very high risk and the "reward" if you want to call it that way is absolutely not worth such a huge risk.
Because if you don't get along well with your kids you will ruin both your own life and their life too (and the life of your partner as well probably).
And as I said you cannot know that for sure in advance. One could be just hated or despised by his kids, you really cannot know in advance.

I would go as far as to say that imo it is "less unsafe" to adopt a child than making one, because if you adopt a child you have the chance to at least choose one and get to know him at least a little bit before getting to live together. This is not 100% safe either of course, but I think it is a much better place to start.

Not to mention that i is also extremely selfish and disrespectful towards children as individuals to say that a child is an extension of his parent.

Well yeah I identify with both the content of my gonads and my brain... that is your seed man. That is your DNA.

Also, its not that hard to raise kids right, and thus extend your legacy through them. Just because there is a chance of failture, you shouldn't take the risk?

[HolyCactus]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย gugnihr:

More Foolish Ramble

Look you aren't rolling the dice in terms of your kid's personality. You raise them, do you not understand that? If your kid turns into a self-loathing, selfish, mentally broken piece of crap then you would probably be quite happy with that now wouldn't you? It would be a mirror image of you. However most people will try to instill values in their children, they are just conned into letting them watch television or browse the nu internet which is really just a desolate place compared to what it once was. I don't believe in having kids for the sake of society or an economic system. There is much more to it. If you're a NEET shouldn't you believe that you control your own destiny? I mean you've already thrown in the towel on participating in any system besides staying home and doing nothing. You could use this time to research proper parenting methods, etc.
But you won't, because you are likely burning any time you have playing vidya or watching anime. Not improving yourself at all but sinking into a deeper hole of sorrow, regret, and shattered dreams.

[gugnihr]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย HolyCactus:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย gugnihr:

More Foolish Ramble

It would be a mirror image of you.

You just continue being disrespectful both towards yourself and towards kids.
Don't you understand that this is absolutely not true and that such belief is absolutely degrading both for parents and for their kids?
I am NOT a mirror image of my parents and I would consider such a belief about me offensive.
(I understand that many people think the same thing you say and you don't know me though so I'm not blaming you or saying that you have purposely insulted me. It is just so you know. For me, told by someone who has the chance to see me, talk to me and say this in person, this would be offensive at least if not even just a plain insult)

PS: and... yes... YOU ARE just rolling the dices in terms of your kids personality. There is something in them before the education you give them. You can have good intentions but you cannot be sure about how they will respond to that education and to you. Kids are something and have something inside their brain already before parents start any interaction with them.
YOU WILL NEVER have the power to be the only one who influences them. And in this world there are so much more powerful things than us people that you cannot do much if things want to go wrong.
It only depends on luck and nothing else.
And I think it is wrong to rely on luck so much.

[HolyCactus]

I don't want a carbon copy of me at all, and that would be just creepy as well. But you should generally be able to curb bad attitudes and the like, that's all i'm saying. Are there massive risks involved in having children? Of course there are, too many to count.
A lot of people didn't want to be born anyway, so don't just have a kid to fufill some bucket list you have or something shallow like that. The majority of reproduction taking place in modern times almost makes one want to drop out of existence entirely. It's bringing people to life in a hellscape, and then they are taught suicide is a sin, so they just begrudgingly continue onward. NEETs generally understand this if they are atleast somewhat functional and I can't say I blame them for dropping out. The bad side of this is they were likely able to pick up some hopes and dreams along the way so those have to wither and die as a consequence.
It's not entirely luck though, you definitely have some pull. Please don't resort to thinking life is something that is entirely sprung on you and you have no choices or sway of your own. I feel like that is another big producer of NEETs.

[Powellinho.72]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย gugnihr:

Hygiene is good. The highest standard of human life cannot exist without hygiene.

the problem is most are cleaning themselves with products full of chemicals. no doubt over a long time this has an effect, negative one in some ways.

[gugnihr]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย HolyCactus:

The majority of reproduction taking place in modern times almost makes one want to drop out of existence entirely. It's bringing people to life in a hellscape,

In my opinion it is not exactly like that. The world have always been a hellscape and probably in modern times it is less worse than in other times.
BUT in modern times people have many more chances and means to become aware of how a hellscape the world is. That's the difference. I am sure the world was much much worse before, but it was so much harder to figure out it all.