What's wrong with cultural appropriation?

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I'm really confused when people screech at other people for wearing something from another culture, like isnt that a good thing??? Nobody owns a culture and doing stuff like that should bring us all together, not create an even bigger schism. And if cultural appropriation is so bad, then why are non-white people allowed to go to Starbucks? Aren't they "appropriating their culture?"

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The way that the term "cultural appropriation" is used makes it racist. It is typically employed as a way to shame people of a specific or percieved racial group for adopting, portraying, or enjoying cultural elements of people from a different race than they are. It is a way of saying that "you aren't allowed to do X because you're a certain race".

I'm sorry, but that's blatant racism. Even if you want to arbitratily re-define racism as prejudice + power, it's still racist when you are using your power (typically the collective power of an outrage mob on social media, but it's not always limited to that) to enforce your racial prejudice by telling someone what they can or can't do based on their race. You are being racist, even by your own warped re-defenition of the word. It's sickening, and it disgusts me.

Race should not matter. By focusing so much on race and placing so much importance on it, you are being a racist. Stop it. Get some help.

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>copyrighting cultural elements such that nobody else can use it
that's the most ancap thing I've heard in months

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Americans invented:
microwave
t-shirt
baseball
basketball
internet
assembly line
video games
landing on the moon
freedom
mcdonalds
walmart

It's time to take back our culture from the appropriators of the world.

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Why not Cameroon?

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I dont understand cultural appropriation, people really use it to get offended over everything.
Im Hawaiian/Pacific islander, but I dont freak out when I see people wearing Leis and saying "Aloha". I actually think its good to see people interested in my culture, and I think its a good thing to let people immerse themselves in other cultures. Humans want to learn.

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I dont understand cultural appropriation, people really use it to get offended over everything.
Im Hawaiian/Pacific islander, but I dont freak out when I see people wearing Leis and saying "Aloha". I actually think its good to see people interested in my culture, and I think its a good thing to let people immerse themselves in other cultures. Humans want to learn.

It's not just that humans want to learn from each other and about each other. It's also that they want to feel connected to each other. They want to feel like part of a larger group or family.

Saying that someone can't adopt parts of the culture is basically separating them from others. It's divisive. History has shown us time and time again that divisiveness leads to very bad outcomes.

The whole idea of cultural appropriation needs to die. For everyone's sake. Cultural adoption and cultural adaptation are GOOD things which foster peace and forward progress.

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I dont understand cultural appropriation, people really use it to get offended over everything.
Im Hawaiian/Pacific islander, but I dont freak out when I see people wearing Leis and saying "Aloha". I actually think its good to see people interested in my culture, and I think its a good thing to let people immerse themselves in other cultures. Humans want to learn.

It's the way it is because there's a certain element in the western world, and everybody knows who it is, that wants and needs to keep everybody pissed off and divided so they can capitalize on the chaos it causes.

Wearing clothes that are native to a certain group of people is fine, at least as far as I'm concerned, and almost nobody really cares about that, but that isn't appropriating someone else's culture anymore than eating Chinese or Mexican food is. Appropriating someone else's culture is when you take it, either whole or in part, and say "This is who I am" or "This is part of my culture too" when it clearly is not. Not only is it dishonest, it's disrespectful and downright stupid.

Some people care less about it than others, and that's fine, but because they ascribe little or no inherent value or ownership to their own cultural identity or icons it doesn't mean that nobody else has the right to do so with theirs or that there's something wrong with them if they do. But again, we're talking about actually appropriating someone's culture, not simply wearing a sombrero at a Cinco De Mayo festival or a lei at a Hawaiin whatever festival or eating foreign food, none of which does anyone but the most insignificant minority get offended by.

I could see a Cherokee indian being rightfully offended by a white kid in a Native American headdress, though. And we Southrons sorta laugh at the yankee transplants that come here from places like New York City, move into an old farmhouse, and pretend to be country people but it's okay as long as they don't come down here and tell us how to live.

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It's the way it is because there's a certain element in the western world, and everybody knows who it is, that wants and needs to keep everybody pissed off and divided so they can capitalize on the chaos it causes.

Wearing clothes that are native to a certain group of people is fine, at least as far as I'm concerned, and almost nobody really cares about that, but that isn't appropriating someone else's culture anymore than eating Chinese or Mexican food is. Appropriating someone else's culture is when you take it, either whole or in part, and say "This is who I am" or "This is part of my culture too" when it clearly is not. Not only is it dishonest, it's disrespectful and downright stupid.

I'm part Cherokee and I don't give a ♥♥♥♥.

Native American culture is heavily idealized. I like seeing it represented, even if it's by white people. Dances with Wolves is not an offensive movie simply because it features a white actor adopting Sioux culture. It's a charming and endearing film that says people are people and that their ideas and ways of life matter more than the color of their skin.

And as an American, I'm happy when foreigners are avid fans of American movies and TV shows. It means we have something in common. That's a good thing!

I don't think there's anything wrong or offensive about people having a fetish for other cultures. I like it when other people appreciate my culture! If you get offended by that, then there's something wrong with you.

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It's the way it is because there's a certain element in the western world, and everybody knows who it is, that wants and needs to keep everybody pissed off and divided so they can capitalize on the chaos it causes.

Wearing clothes that are native to a certain group of people is fine, at least as far as I'm concerned, and almost nobody really cares about that, but that isn't appropriating someone else's culture anymore than eating Chinese or Mexican food is. Appropriating someone else's culture is when you take it, either whole or in part, and say "This is who I am" or "This is part of my culture too" when it clearly is not. Not only is it dishonest, it's disrespectful and downright stupid.

I'm part Cherokee and I don't give a ♥♥♥♥.

Native American culture is heavily idealized. I like seeing it represented, even if it's by white people. Dances with Wolves is not an offensive movie simply because it features a white actor adopting Sioux culture. It's a charming and endearing film that says people are people and that their ideas and ways of life matter more than the color of their skin.

And as an American, I'm happy when foreigners are avid fans of American movies and TV shows. It means we have something in common. That's a good thing!

I don't think there's anything wrong or offensive about people having a fetish for other cultures. I like it when other people appreciate my culture! If you get offended by that, then there's something wrong with you.

Right, you don't really care. That's fine. Others do and that's fine too and IF they do, especially in that situation, I can understand why they would. I don't have to agree with them to accept that my point of view isn't the only one on the planet or the right one because it's mine.

As for fetishizing other cultures, what about it? Fetishizing isn't appropriating. You should see my house. It looks like a Budapest Christmas market and I don't have nary a drop of Magyar blood in my veins. I just like the way it looks but I don't go around telling people I'm Hungarian or look over my array of Hungarian nick-nacks and say to myself "This is a mighty fine collection of American stuff I got here" because it's not, it's Hungarian.