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ψ -No.23- 2018 年 9 月 25 日 上午 6:58
What's wrong with cultural appropriation?
I'm really confused when people screech at other people for wearing something from another culture, like isnt that a good thing??? Nobody owns a culture and doing stuff like that should bring us all together, not create an even bigger schism. And if cultural appropriation is so bad, then why are non-white people allowed to go to Starbucks? Aren't they "appropriating their culture?"
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Vince ✟ 2018 年 9 月 25 日 上午 9:06 
引用自 Rascal
引用自 laff
What about chocolate? Everyone but Mesoamerica "culturally appropriated" it. If someone's going to whinge about that meaningless buzzword, then I guess they're not allowed to eat any chocolate otherwise they'd be a hypocrite and everything they stand for would be a lie.
So educate me here, I thought chocolate was like an Aztec thing....
Same spot. region.
最後修改者:Vince ✟; 2018 年 9 月 25 日 上午 9:06
ROFLpl0x 2018 年 9 月 25 日 上午 9:18 
引用自 Proto
I'm really confused when people screech at other people for wearing something from another culture, like isnt that a good thing???
That's not cultural appropriation, though, just what hot-headed brainless idiots like to call it.

Actual cultural appropriation is when you claim a heritage or an ethnicity you don't have, usually for some benefit. Like a certain politician who tried to claim Native American descent where none actually exists. Or like my sister who has naturally dark skin and was told by one of the goons at the unemployment office to claim her race as Native American when she applied for jobs at certain types of businesses so she'd be more likely to get hired and less likely to get fired.
SMIFFY 2018 年 9 月 25 日 上午 9:21 
引用自 ROFLwut?
引用自 Proto
I'm really confused when people screech at other people for wearing something from another culture, like isnt that a good thing???
That's not cultural appropriation, though, just what hot-headed brainless idiots like to call it.

Actual cultural appropriation is when you claim a heritage or an ethnicity you don't have, usually for some benefit. Like a certain politician who tried to claim Native American descent where none actually exists. Or like my sister who has naturally dark skin and was told by one of the goons at the unemployment office to claim her race as Native American when she applied for jobs at certain types of businesses so she'd be more likely to get hired and less likely to get fired.
Or the former head of of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, Rachel Dolezal.
最後修改者:SMIFFY; 2018 年 9 月 25 日 上午 9:21
ROFLpl0x 2018 年 9 月 25 日 上午 9:31 
引用自 SMIFFY
引用自 ROFLwut?
That's not cultural appropriation, though, just what hot-headed brainless idiots like to call it.

Actual cultural appropriation is when you claim a heritage or an ethnicity you don't have, usually for some benefit. Like a certain politician who tried to claim Native American descent where none actually exists. Or like my sister who has naturally dark skin and was told by one of the goons at the unemployment office to claim her race as Native American when she applied for jobs at certain types of businesses so she'd be more likely to get hired and less likely to get fired.
Or the former head of of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, Rachel Dolezal.
Oh, JFC! Yeah, her too. She should've been the first one to come to mind!
Florida Man 2018 年 9 月 25 日 上午 9:37 
It's just another ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sjw buzzword.

In relation to the infamous video - If a white person wearing dreads is cultural appropriation, then it's cultural appropriation when black people dye their hair blond, like Nicki Minaj. :steammocking:

Of course, why someone would even choose to wear dreads in the first place is questionable, but my point still stands.
AustrAlien2010 2018 年 9 月 25 日 上午 9:47 
引用自 Florida Man
It's just another ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sjw buzzword.

In relation to the infamous video - If a white person wearing dreads is cultural appropriation, then it's cultural appropriation when black people dye their hair blond, like Nicki Minaj. :steammocking:

Of course, why someone would even choose to wear dreads in the first place is questionable, but my point still stands.

Don´t be too quick to judge; You have people who are born in one culture, but still have strong ties with close family members in another culture. And thus identify with that culture, even if there is only a connection through blood. You know that just as well as I.
It´s a thing. Apparently. People tend to call it a sub-culture. A silly word, if ever there was one.
Cultural appropriation does sound more... sophisticated. But still wrong, because the close family members lived there all along. So one adopts some kind of hybrid culture, and often very different from the original.
But you´re right. It´s not as I would like to have it either. It´s complicated.
Many people want to belong or identify with something, to be sure.

I don´t think there is anything inherently wrong with that. But there isn´t much right with it either. It´s just the way it is. You can´t change the past, and you can´t really take it with you either, without changing they way you perceive it in the present.

But I try not to think about that stuff too much. So *do* call it whatever you like.

For me, it just makes things interesting.
最後修改者:AustrAlien2010; 2018 年 9 月 25 日 上午 10:38
Vince ✟ 2018 年 9 月 25 日 上午 10:15 
It may be a buzzword, but its as old as all of us in regards to science. Anthropologists and historians like to dig around in the past to find such things. When they happened. How they happened. The time period they happened. Just because Wikipedia implies negative connotations, it only applies when the conversation turns to race. Culture does not equate to race.
最後修改者:Vince ✟; 2018 年 9 月 25 日 上午 10:16
ROFLpl0x 2018 年 9 月 25 日 上午 11:37 
引用自 AustrAlien2010
引用自 Florida Man
It's just another ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sjw buzzword.

In relation to the infamous video - If a white person wearing dreads is cultural appropriation, then it's cultural appropriation when black people dye their hair blond, like Nicki Minaj. :steammocking:

Of course, why someone would even choose to wear dreads in the first place is questionable, but my point still stands.

Don´t be too quick to judge; You have people who are born in one culture, but still have strong ties with close family members in another culture. And thus identify with that culture, even if there is only a connection through blood. You know that just as well as I.
It´s a thing. Apparently. People tend to call it a sub-culture. A silly word, if ever there was one.
Cultural appropriation does sound more... sophisticated. But still wrong, because the close family members lived there all along. So one adopts some kind of hybrid culture, and often very different from the original.
But you´re right. It´s not as I would like to have it either. It´s complicated.
Many people want to belong or identify with something, to be sure.

I don´t think there is anything inherently wrong with that. But there isn´t much right with it either. It´s just the way it is. You can´t change the past, and you can´t really take it with you either, without changing they way you perceive it in the present.

But I try not to think about that stuff too much. So *do* call it whatever you like.

For me, it just makes things interesting.
Aren't you reading way more into what he said than what he actually said? Because it certainly has become a SJW buzzword by it's constant misuse, just like that one -ism that gets thrown around whenever certain inconveneient truths are spoken. Problem is, the things deemed to be cultural appropriation really aren't, they just call it that... like that -ism. Actual cultural appropriation is always wrong, in any context that doesn't involve the continuation of your life, just like pretending to be a war veteran or a cop is always wrong, because it's dishonest and disrespectful.

Assimilating, blending, borrowing and sharing are all perfectly normal. It's only a problem when you do it with the intent to mislead.... or try to shove it down somebody else's throat under the guise of multiculturalism which is pretty much the most disgusting, disrespectful and destructive thing you can do to a person's culture. Especially when you claim to have an ounce of respect for it.

Devious 2018 年 9 月 25 日 上午 11:53 
Absolutely nothing.

I've spoken at length with so-called SJWs (I wish there was a better alternative to that tired term) on the subject.

Their logic is as follows : if, say, a white person wears dreads, they are unlikely to suffer from negative stereotypes and prejudices as a result, which isn't necessarily the case for a black person. Therefore, white people do not have the right to "take the good without the bad".

If you can get them to realize that their issue is with cultural discrimination, not appropriation, they often realize that the leap of logic towards authoritarianism is a petty and irrational reaction.
Ganger 2018 年 9 月 25 日 上午 11:57 
Only things you shouldn't be wearing from other cultures are religious attire. It shows disrespect in my eyes.
Devious 2018 年 9 月 25 日 下午 12:02 
引用自 Ganger
Only things you shouldn't be wearing from other cultures are religious attire. It shows disrespect in my eyes.

I don't agree with the idea that cultural mores, including religion, deserve special respect. They're nothing more than an opinion. Would you show the same deference towards a political or economic theory?
Ganger 2018 年 9 月 25 日 下午 12:23 
引用自 Devious

I don't agree with the idea that cultural mores, including religion, deserve special respect. They're nothing more than an opinion. Would you show the same deference towards a political or economic theory?

Someone of a different faith shouldn't be going around wearing attire of another faith unless your a true believer of that faith (just my opinion on this).

Plus were I live in britian, we have many faiths all mixed together and it's like a cauldron waiting to explode. And you just don't go out wearing other faiths religious clothing, its just utter disrespectful.

Plus someone mention snowflakes, snowflakes like to talk to the talk and pretend we live in a world full of unicorn and happeness but the truth is we don't.
Gus the Crocodile 2018 年 9 月 25 日 下午 1:59 
引用自 Devious
I don't agree with the idea that cultural mores, including religion, deserve special respect. They're nothing more than an opinion. Would you show the same deference towards a political or economic theory?
The way I see it, it’s not about respect for abstract ideas, it’s about respect for people. Someone sitting here declaring in advance that anything they want to do with ‘pieces’ of someone’s culture is fine, is essentially a plan to be inconsiderate of others forever.
Florida Man 2018 年 9 月 25 日 下午 2:06 
引用自 Devious
引用自 Ganger
Only things you shouldn't be wearing from other cultures are religious attire. It shows disrespect in my eyes.

I don't agree with the idea that cultural mores, including religion, deserve special respect. They're nothing more than an opinion.
And you don't respect people opinions toward their way of life? ;^)
Esoteric 2018 年 9 月 25 日 下午 2:16 
Cultures have always copied each other. Look at how the Romans copied the ancient Greeks gods and myths.
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