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Sanghead Jul 8, 2018 @ 4:23am
JDM vs European Car markets?
The few things Japan has brought right into this world, is that they know how to make absolutely quality cars, The GTR R33/R34 and toyota supra's are absolute icons of what they've built.
Europe isn't far off however, what's your thoughts?
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=CrimsoN= Jul 8, 2018 @ 5:36am 
American market > Everything else

Question, if it's called JDM outside of Japan, would American imports be called ADM outside of America.
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octavian Jul 8, 2018 @ 5:42am 
Originally posted by The Sheriff of Lynchwood:
American market > Everything else

Question, if it's called JDM outside of Japan, would American imports be called ADM outside of America.

I agree the US second hand market has a wide variety of cars for sale, JDM, retro etc.

But muscle cars are no better .
IMO too much raw power with very poor handling isnt a very good idea.
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=CrimsoN= Jul 8, 2018 @ 5:44am 
Originally posted by reeeedyy:
Originally posted by The Sheriff of Lynchwood:
American market > Everything else

Question, if it's called JDM outside of Japan, would American imports be called ADM outside of America.

I agree the US second hand market has a wide variety of cars for sale, JDM, retro etc.

But muscle cars are no better .
IMO too much raw power with very poor handling isnt a very good idea.

Agreed.
even though I do like raw power
I don’t really know how to answer this one, because it seems like every region has makes, and models which are awesome, and those which are just horrible. I think you’d actually have to split it up by types, which I’d have to say.
Trucks-US
SUVs-US
Sedans-Japan
Sports cars-Japan
Coupes-Europe
super cars-Europe


I mostly prefer japanese cars.

In europe if japan export cars, the engine is not original, they take from any european car which pisses me off.

If I buy a japanese car, I would go straight to Japan and export to my country, sure i need to make tons of paper work and i prob spend more than 20000€ just to bring to europe
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[LTT] LinusFTW Jul 8, 2018 @ 6:41am 
Japan has made some fantastic cars no doubt, but have they made cars that are revolutionary and last for 60 years? the answer to that is no. For cars like that you have to look at the British and one in particular. The Mini. The production of the 'classic' shaped Mini began in 1959 and ended in 2000, has Japan ever had a car in production for that long?, no. The late 50's early 60's were when BMC (later called British Leyland) were making decent cars that were affordable for most 'normal' people and were 'realistic' for the use case of most owners. If you wanted a small and efficient town car you'd buy a Mini because nothing else from other manufactures would match it, if the Mini name wasn't popular BMW wouldn't have wanted to buy the name.
Sanghead Jul 8, 2018 @ 9:30am 
Originally posted by The Sheriff of Lynchwood:
American market > Everything else

Question, if it's called JDM outside of Japan, would American imports be called ADM outside of America.
I've never heard the term AOM, so I don't think so
Ganger Jul 8, 2018 @ 10:09am 
I think japanese cars are boring, european cars for me. Im more of a hot hatch type of person, used to love fast fords back in the day.
Sanghead Jul 8, 2018 @ 10:10am 
Originally posted by Ganger:
I think japanese cars are boring, european cars for me. Im more of a hot hatch type of person, used to love fast fords back in the day.
I know quite a few who are into hatchbacks, there are definately some nice models in NA.
Ganger Jul 8, 2018 @ 10:12am 
Originally posted by LTT LinusFTW:
Japan has made some fantastic cars no doubt, but have they made cars that are revolutionary and last for 60 years? the answer to that is no. For cars like that you have to look at the British and one in particular. The Mini. The production of the 'classic' shaped Mini began in 1959 and ended in 2000, has Japan ever had a car in production for that long?, no. The late 50's early 60's were when BMC (later called British Leyland) were making decent cars that were affordable for most 'normal' people and were 'realistic' for the use case of most owners. If you wanted a small and efficient town car you'd buy a Mini because nothing else from other manufactures would match it, if the Mini name wasn't popular BMW wouldn't have wanted to buy the name.

British car industry back then died for a reason, their cars were crap. The mini is just a death trap. On one hand you had some good european cars and on the other hand you had japanese cars... british cars were rubbish, owned a few and will never own another
Ganger Jul 8, 2018 @ 10:14am 
Originally posted by The Only Juan:
I know quite a few who are into hatchbacks, there are definately some nice models in NA.

I watched wheeler dealer other day, the one with the american Escort Cosworth. It was my dream car back in the 90s, never owned on because it was way out of my price range. It did look sexy with the 3 wings ant placed.
[LTT] LinusFTW Jul 8, 2018 @ 10:17am 
Originally posted by Ganger:
Originally posted by LTT LinusFTW:
Japan has made some fantastic cars no doubt, but have they made cars that are revolutionary and last for 60 years? the answer to that is no. For cars like that you have to look at the British and one in particular. The Mini. The production of the 'classic' shaped Mini began in 1959 and ended in 2000, has Japan ever had a car in production for that long?, no. The late 50's early 60's were when BMC (later called British Leyland) were making decent cars that were affordable for most 'normal' people and were 'realistic' for the use case of most owners. If you wanted a small and efficient town car you'd buy a Mini because nothing else from other manufactures would match it, if the Mini name wasn't popular BMW wouldn't have wanted to buy the name.

British car industry back then died for a reason, their cars were crap. The mini is just a death trap. On one hand you had some good european cars and on the other hand you had japanese cars... british cars were rubbish, owned a few and will never own another
Yeah BL had a slow decline through the 70's, 80's,90's and early 2000's. Making cars like the Allegro, Marina and Metro but you cannot deny the fact that the Mini was the best it's class at it's time because it just was.
Ganger Jul 8, 2018 @ 10:21am 
Originally posted by LTT LinusFTW:
Yeah BL had a slow decline through the 70's, 80's,90's and early 2000's. Making cars like the Allegro, Marina and Metro but you cannot deny the fact that the Mini was the best it's class at it's time because it just was.

The mini is up there as a classic tho, not a car I like but is a classic. I had two metros and both were bad cars. Last metro I had, I was taking it to the scrap yard and it caught fire..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc2kFJRc5AQ
[LTT] LinusFTW Jul 8, 2018 @ 10:40am 
Originally posted by Ganger:
Originally posted by LTT LinusFTW:
Yeah BL had a slow decline through the 70's, 80's,90's and early 2000's. Making cars like the Allegro, Marina and Metro but you cannot deny the fact that the Mini was the best it's class at it's time because it just was.

The mini is up there as a classic tho, not a car I like but is a classic. I had two metros and both were bad cars. Last metro I had, I was taking it to the scrap yard and it caught fire..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc2kFJRc5AQ
I think the Metro tried to capture what the Mini did but it just didn't work out even when they tried to hide its identity by calling it a Rover 100. It's clear at this stage BL wasn't going to last for long and they didn't. BL became defuct in 1986 destroying nearly every brand, to this day only 4 still exist but owned by different owners.
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