Do you call a non-binary a sister or brother?

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Not to offend anyone.

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SYNTH3D #ThreeLions lähetti viestin:

mr.seventenski lähetti viestin:

Okay, since this response ventured into quite a few different topics, I’m going to have to go down the list. To even give a proper response.
> World Health Organization recently changed their stance.
Don’t care. Most global organizations are political hugboxes for one, and for two it’s a moot point. If Albert Einstein came back to life, and told me the world was flat, I’m not going to start thinking the world is flat, I’m going to start thinking he’s either a bad scientist, or at least dead wrong on somethings.
> nobody is saying that you have to agree with it morally
Moot point. My moral views have nothing to do with a factual answer.
> condemning people isn't the best method of reaching those people
It’s not a condemnation. I’m not saying they’ve committed any crime, but they’re clearly suffering from a mental disorder.
> I'm not living in a country strife with civil conflict.
Most of our civil conflict, comes from the political factions in the US, who’re doing things like trying to dogmatize opinion into fact, or are actively seeking things to offend themselves for political gain.
> America has much bigger problems with a high rate of gun crime
We have a lot of crime in general, our “gun crime” rate is proportional to that.
> 67% of the world's serial killers
I find that number very dubious, as most countries who do have high crime rates, don’t have the law enforcement resources to even identify killing patterns indicative of a serial killer. This, and saying “67% of the world’s serial killers” doesn’t really mean much, when most serial killers are identified in 1st world nations, and we have the largest population of any 1st world nation. (before you say it, no China is not a 1st world nation.)
> Condemning people hasn't worked out well for your country in recent history, has it?
Imo we don’t condemn enough here. Pretty much all of the problems you’ve listed with my culture, have gotten worse, as we’ve become a more permissive society.

Again, Northern European countries like Iceland are proof that egalatarian societies can work much better and countries with socialist policies often have a lower crime rates, less austerity and the people are more respectful to each other.

Countries with socialist policies that promote egalatarian societies and tolerance towards others often fare much better than the United States.
http://blog.peerform.com/top-ten-most-socialist-countries-in-the-world/

If we compare a country that is more relevant to yours, Canada is your neighbour and a fair comparison to the United States.
http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Canada/United-States/Crime

As you can see from the statistics, they have a much lower violent crime and rape rate compared to the United States and they also have more socialist policies that promote an egalatarian society.

Whelp, you've officially summoned Nine-Ball.

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The Sheriff of Lynchwood lähetti viestin:

Gus the Crocodile lähetti viestin:

Imagine not being able to manage the incredibly basic courtesy of just consulting the individual themselves on how they’d like to be addressed.

These people need real mental help, not to be pushed over the edge.

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The Sheriff of Lynchwood lähetti viestin:

These people need real mental help, not to be pushed over the edge.

No one needs help from the ACPED. They are a hate group. It's like going to the KKK to ask about black people.

No thank you.

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The Sheriff of Lynchwood lähetti viestin:

laff lähetti viestin:

These people need real mental help, not to be pushed over the edge.

No one needs help from the ACPED. They are a hate group. It's like going to the KKK to ask about black people.

No thank you.

The LGBT cultists are a child-hate group. They also hate biology, reality, and science. See how easy that is? I didn't respond to anything you said, I just flung more crap.

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SYNTH3D #ThreeLions lähetti viestin:

I was not citing my own country as a perfect example of an egalatarian society..I am aware of the divisions and conflict of the United Kingdom but they are related to the political issues we are facing.

The United States is much worse and rated higher than the United Kingdom in many regards if we compare them side by side. Of course, there is much more poverty, austerity and segregation in the United States which are other factors as to why the United States has the highest poverty and crime rate out of all first-world countries.
http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/United-Kingdom/United-States/Crime

there you go again. you are giving me second-hand condemnation over my nationality. I think you are dehumanizing me over what chunk of land I was born on.

I don't appreciate this xenophobia. we could've gone without name-calling American folk over a troll post

I am certainly not blaming the people of America for the austerity or civil issues.

Simply disagreeing with the politics or foreign poicy of the United States doesn't make me xenophobic in any sense of the word.

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SYNTH3D #ThreeLions lähetti viestin:

Simply disagreeing with the politics or foreign poicy of the United States doesn't make me xenophobic in any sense of the word.

That's not what you were doing though.

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laff lähetti viestin:

The Sheriff of Lynchwood lähetti viestin:

No one needs help from the ACPED. They are a hate group. It's like going to the KKK to ask about black people.

No thank you.

The LGBT cultists are a child-hate group. They also hate biology, reality, and science. See how easy that is? I didn't respond to anything you said, I just flung more crap.

It's not crap. The AAP (American Academy of Pediatrics), who are the official non-partistan organization for pediatrics, denounced the ACPED as a hate group. The ACPED has a socially conservative agenda and does not care for the livlihood of children.

You brought this up in the last thread too and I refuted it.

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SYNTH3D #ThreeLions lähetti viestin:

Todd Howard lähetti viestin:

there you go again. you are giving me second-hand condemnation over my nationality. I think you are dehumanizing me over what chunk of land I was born on.

I don't appreciate this xenophobia. we could've gone without name-calling American folk over a troll post

I am certainly not blaming the people of America for the austerity or civil issues.

Simply disagreeing with the politics or foreign poicy of the United States doesn't make me xenophobic in any sense of the word.

i'm just expressing my feelings. i feel personally attacked right now, you know? how does me being american affect you? apparently it does since you want to bring out the statistics and use it for some uncalled-for society comparison. a bit dehumanizing. this conversation is over.

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The Sheriff of Lynchwood lähetti viestin:

laff lähetti viestin:

The LGBT cultists are a child-hate group. They also hate biology, reality, and science. See how easy that is? I didn't respond to anything you said, I just flung more crap.

It's not crap. The AAP (American Academy of Pediatrics), who are the official non-partistan organization for pediatrics, denounced the ACPED as a hate group. The ACPED has a socially conservative agenda and does not care for the livlihood of children.

You brought this up in the last thread too a day I refuted it.

You didn't refute anything. You just vomited the "hate group" buzzword so you wouldn't have to read any of their article or consider anything they've said or argue against any of it.

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The Sheriff of Lynchwood lähetti viestin:

The ACPED has a socially conservative agenda and does not care for the livlihood of children.

Oh no! Our kids are in danger because they don't like the pronouns people use for them!

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laff lähetti viestin:

The Sheriff of Lynchwood lähetti viestin:

It's not crap. The AAP (American Academy of Pediatrics), who are the official non-partistan organization for pediatrics, denounced the ACPED as a hate group. The ACPED has a socially conservative agenda and does not care for the livlihood of children.

You brought this up in the last thread too a day I refuted it.

You didn't refute anything. You just vomited the "hate group" buzzword so you wouldn't have to read any of their article or consider anything they've said or argue against any of it.

Well you might not like it, but that doesn't change the fact that the ACPED is biased in all senses of the word.

And that official non-partisan organizations (like AAP) have denounced the ACPED. If you choose to remain ignorant on this fact, then that's on you friend.

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Daxank lähetti viestin:

The Sheriff of Lynchwood lähetti viestin:

The ACPED has a socially conservative agenda and does not care for the livlihood of children.

Oh no! Our kids are in danger because they don't like the pronouns people use for them!

You're missing the point entirely bud.

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Todd Howard lähetti viestin:

SYNTH3D #ThreeLions lähetti viestin:

I am certainly not blaming the people of America for the austerity or civil issues.

Simply disagreeing with the politics or foreign poicy of the United States doesn't make me xenophobic in any sense of the word.

i'm just expressing my feelings. i feel personally attacked right now, you know? how does me being american affect you? apparently it does since you want to bring out the statistics and use it for some uncalled-for society comparison. a bit dehumanizing. this conversation is over.

Again, American people have the capacity to become aware of mass media propaganda and to change their country.

Immigration is another example, millions of people are emigrating to your country because of American imperialism and foreign policy. Again, I am not blaming the American people but the actions of war that your country took that destablized those countries.
https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/8v9zkv/its_important_to_keep_in_mind_that_so_many/

That doesn't mean I have anything against Americans as it wasn't their choice, many Americans actively stood against the imperialist actions of the United States in Vietnam and even protested against The Patriot Act that gave the American government the right to actively spy on millions of people. Edward Snowden didn't risk himself because he was anti-American, he exposed the government because he wanted to make Americans aware of a government that doesn't answer to the people.

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SYNTH3D #ThreeLions lähetti viestin:

mr.seventenski lähetti viestin:

Okay, since this response ventured into quite a few different topics, I’m going to have to go down the list. To even give a proper response.
> World Health Organization recently changed their stance.
Don’t care. Most global organizations are political hugboxes for one, and for two it’s a moot point. If Albert Einstein came back to life, and told me the world was flat, I’m not going to start thinking the world is flat, I’m going to start thinking he’s either a bad scientist, or at least dead wrong on somethings.
> nobody is saying that you have to agree with it morally
Moot point. My moral views have nothing to do with a factual answer.
> condemning people isn't the best method of reaching those people
It’s not a condemnation. I’m not saying they’ve committed any crime, but they’re clearly suffering from a mental disorder.
> I'm not living in a country strife with civil conflict.
Most of our civil conflict, comes from the political factions in the US, who’re doing things like trying to dogmatize opinion into fact, or are actively seeking things to offend themselves for political gain.
> America has much bigger problems with a high rate of gun crime
We have a lot of crime in general, our “gun crime” rate is proportional to that.
> 67% of the world's serial killers
I find that number very dubious, as most countries who do have high crime rates, don’t have the law enforcement resources to even identify killing patterns indicative of a serial killer. This, and saying “67% of the world’s serial killers” doesn’t really mean much, when most serial killers are identified in 1st world nations, and we have the largest population of any 1st world nation. (before you say it, no China is not a 1st world nation.)
> Condemning people hasn't worked out well for your country in recent history, has it?
Imo we don’t condemn enough here. Pretty much all of the problems you’ve listed with my culture, have gotten worse, as we’ve become a more permissive society.

Again, Northern European countries like Iceland are proof that egalatarian societies can work much better and countries with socialist policies often have a lower crime rates, less austerity and the people are more respectful to each other.

Countries with socialist policies that promote egalatarian societies and tolerance towards others often fare much better than the United States.
http://blog.peerform.com/top-ten-most-socialist-countries-in-the-world/

If we compare a country that is more relevant to yours, Canada is your neighbour and a fair comparison to the United States.
http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Canada/United-States/Crime

As you can see from the statistics, they have a much lower violent crime and rape rate compared to the United States and they also have more socialist policies that promote an egalatarian society.

> Again, Northern European countries like Iceland are proof that egalatarian societies
I really don’t know what you’re defining as “egalitarian,” when you’re defining us as non-egalitarian, but them as egalitarian. Either you’re using a definition of the word, that I’m unfamiliar with, or you don’t know what it means.
> socialist policies often have a lower crime rates, less austerity and the people are more respectful to each other.
Most of those nations don’t claim to be socialist, and while they do have many social programs, much of that is being scaled back now such as Finland’s living wage. Now if you want to point to a socialist country, that does claim to be socialist, look no further than Venezuela… As for their crime rates, one could easily point to the fact that they’re rapidly rising right now, and that’s as a direct result of them being less culturally homogeneous. This, and we’ve become more socialistic over the past 100 years, and pretty much all of the problems you’ve mentioned have actually gotten much worse.

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The Sheriff of Lynchwood lähetti viestin:

laff lähetti viestin:

You didn't refute anything. You just vomited the "hate group" buzzword so you wouldn't have to read any of their article or consider anything they've said or argue against any of it.

Well you might not like it, but that doesn't change the fact that the ACPED is biased in all senses of the word.

And that official non-partisan organizations (like AAP) have denounced the ACPED. If you choose to remain ignorant on this fact, then that's on you friend.

The article I posted was written by professionals with medical degrees and currently has 12 citations from varying sources (including but not limited to the WHO or FDA). But you're not even willing to look at it, are you? You live in this delusional, echo chamber world where you'll only listen to anyone who's already agreeing with you and anyone who breaks it is "spewing hate" or is part of a "hate group" and you bring up something even more irrelevant (like the KKK) to portray anyone who doesn't agree with you as also being a racist.

The Sheriff of Lynchwood lähetti viestin:

laff lähetti viestin:

These people need real mental help, not to be pushed over the edge.

No one needs help from the ACPED. They are a hate group. It's like going to the KKK to ask about black people.

No thank you.

This "censor everything I don't agree with" ploy won't work when people look at any issue from a calm, logical, and rational perspective. I was also speaking for myself in that post, not for ACPED, when I said these people need help rather than being pushed over the edge. So that tirade of "don't listen to anyone who disagrees with me" is completely irrelevant to the post to which you're responding.