what would happen if jupiter hit another planet

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it has no land, just liquid and gas so would it just pass trough and leave some molten lava on said planet?

[Nine-ball]

Pretty much answered already, minus some physics calculations. As stated, Jupiter would essentially swallow the planet it hit. This in turn would change the orbit of Jupiter, even if a planet just popped into its gravity well and was absorbed at minimal velocity.

No matter what the circumstance, Jupiter's current orbit would become unstable, as it is based on a specific mass falling around the sun. It's a huge mass, but adding anything beyond a few billion tons, like a planet that weighs trillions of tons squared, would cause eccentric orbit. This in turn would eventually lead it to collide with more planets, and each time it does so, its already comparatively slow solar orbit slows down. There's a slight possibilty that it could be ejected from orbit, but not with the mass we have in this solar system, not counting the sun. Well, unless you accelerate that mass to relativistic velocities.

All plantes will eventually spiral into the sun by virtue of scarce gasses in space, having Jupiter hit something, or many somethings, merely speeds up the process. Hitting a planet might speed the process up a few million or billion years, but it won't be enough to make a major impact before the sun starts entering terminal phase in roughly 2.5 billion years.

What will definitely happen is the creation of a new ring or more likely, an obital cloud system. Jupiter's terminal velocity virtually ensures that. Just as if an asteroid of sufficent mass hit earth, some of the mass would be ejcted into space, so it goes with the largest planet, compunded by the immense gravity. Jupiter already has an orbital cloud, we just don't usually see most of it because the rings it has now date back to the formation of the planet as a swirling whirlpool of mass. Everything that has hit is since was either sucked in or forced into orbit near whatever trajectory it entered from. That's a very wide range of trajectiories, even across a planar galaxy with a definite spin like our own.

Finally, let's go into how Jupiter's current gaseous atmosphere could not escape the gravity well. After all, couldn't some of its own matter be blown away into space? Failing a relativistic impact by something weighing billions of tons and/or traveling at near the speed of light, no. Jupiter's gravity well is so powerful that it affects every planet, and even spacecraft from Earth. It is so powerful that it makes the sun wobble in orbit, just a little, and changes the density of the distant Oort cloud as it passes.

The immense gravity and density is so strong that it prevents even fusion detonated gases from escaping. Just like the sun, where the most violent fusion reactions among light gases occur, the same gases arc into space and fall back. We saw it with SL9, the comet that crashed into Jupiter. It vaporized itself, created plasma reactions we could see, and they never so much as left the cloud strata they were in. And SL9 was a good deal heavier than just light gases.

There is no escaping that gravity well unless very extreme circumstances are considered.

That said, It has been mentioned that Jupiter might become a binary star. Not possible. There is not enough mass in this solar system. When Astronmers say it was "close" they mean "close if you added a few million decillion tons of mass." Our sun alone, a humble yellow dwarf, Is 90% of the mass in the solar system all by itself. Jupiter would need to be a thousand times more massive than it already is just to be a brown dwarf.

Hopefully this fills in some missing details.

[DRUNK_CANADIAN]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Wolfie:

Jupiter is a Gas Giant, but that doesn't mean it's a big cloud of gas. The reality is, Jupiter is as solid as Earth or Mars. It's just made of materials that we think of as gases.

Heat and Pressure can change the State of Matter. At the pressure of our atmosphere at 55 fahrenheit, water exists in a liquid state. Heat it up and it'll become a gas(evaporate). Cool it down and it'll freeze, becoming a solid.

The same thing happens to all Elements, including "gases" like Hydrogen and Helium. They're gases in our pressures and our temperatures, but under the titanic heat and pressure of Jupiter's atmosphere they become solids.

What's really cool about Jupiter, is that it literally rains diamonds from the sky after thunderstorms.

Jupiter's atmosphere produces powerful lightning storms. The electrical discharges release Carbon from the trace Methane in the cloud decks, and that Carbon then descends into the atmosphere. At a certain point the heat and pressure converts the Carbon into Diamond. And it's theorized that Jupiter may even have an ocean or lake of liquid diamond.

Gives a whole new meaning to "make it rain"

IMO its amazing our solar system...and boggles the mind the wonders that would happen beyond our starsystem.

Although basically the interactions assuming they are hurdling at each other and not just being pulled in by one another's gravity well would be the rough equivalent of smashing two big balls of earth together (oversimplification, but depends on the parameters of the planets colliding as well as the collision, as it would with the clumps of earth and the velocity of your hands smashing them together :P )

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Diposting pertama kali oleh Nine-ball:

Pretty much answered already, minus some physics calculations. As stated, Jupiter would essentially swallow the planet it hit. This in turn would change the orbit of Jupiter, even if a planet just popped into its gravity well and was absorbed at minimal velocity.

No matter what the circumstance, Jupiter's current orbit would become unstable, as it is based on a specific mass falling around the sun. It's a huge mass, but adding anything beyond a few billion tons, like a planet that weighs trillions of tons squared, would cause eccentric orbit. This in turn would eventually lead it to collide with more planets, and each time it does so, its already comparatively slow solar orbit slows down. There's a slight possibilty that it could be ejected from orbit, but not with the mass we have in this solar system, not counting the sun. Well, unless you accelerate that mass to relativistic velocities.

All plantes will eventually spiral into the sun by virtue of scarce gasses in space, having Jupiter hit something, or many somethings, merely speeds up the process. Hitting a planet might speed the process up a few million or billion years, but it won't be enough to make a major impact before the sun starts entering terminal phase in roughly 2.5 billion years.

What will definitely happen is the creation of a new ring or more likely, an obital cloud system. Jupiter's terminal velocity virtually ensures that. Just as if an asteroid of sufficent mass hit earth, some of the mass would be ejcted into space, so it goes with the largest planet, compunded by the immense gravity. Jupiter already has an orbital cloud, we just don't usually see most of it because the rings it has now date back to the formation of the planet as a swirling whirlpool of mass. Everything that has hit is since was either sucked in or forced into orbit near whatever trajectory it entered from. That's a very wide range of trajectiories, even across a planar galaxy with a definite spin like our own.

Finally, let's go into how Jupiter's current gaseous atmosphere could not escape the gravity well. After all, couldn't some of its own matter be blown away into space? Failing a relativistic impact by something weighing billions of tons and/or traveling at near the speed of light, no. Jupiter's gravity well is so powerful that it affects every planet, and even spacecraft from Earth. It is so powerful that it makes the sun wobble in orbit, just a little, and changes the density of the distant Oort cloud as it passes.

The immense gravity and density is so strong that it prevents even fusion detonated gases from escaping. Just like the sun, where the most violent fusion reactions among light gases occur, the same gases arc into space and fall back. We saw it with SL9, the comet that crashed into Jupiter. It vaporized itself, created plasma reactions we could see, and they never so much as left the cloud strata they were in. And SL9 was a good deal heavier than just light gases.

There is no escaping that gravity well unless very extreme circumstances are considered.

That said, It has been mentioned that Jupiter might become a binary star. Not possible. There is not enough mass in this solar system. When Astronmers say it was "close" they mean "close if you added a few million decillion tons of mass." Our sun alone, a humble yellow dwarf, Is 90% of the mass in the solar system all by itself. Jupiter would need to be a thousand times more massive than it already is just to be a brown dwarf.

Hopefully this fills in some missing details.

tl;dr

[DeadlyDialga]

Diposting pertama kali oleh ♥♥♥ Pat:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Nine-ball:

Pretty much answered already, minus some physics calculations. As stated, Jupiter would essentially swallow the planet it hit. This in turn would change the orbit of Jupiter, even if a planet just popped into its gravity well and was absorbed at minimal velocity.

No matter what the circumstance, Jupiter's current orbit would become unstable, as it is based on a specific mass falling around the sun. It's a huge mass, but adding anything beyond a few billion tons, like a planet that weighs trillions of tons squared, would cause eccentric orbit. This in turn would eventually lead it to collide with more planets, and each time it does so, its already comparatively slow solar orbit slows down. There's a slight possibilty that it could be ejected from orbit, but not with the mass we have in this solar system, not counting the sun. Well, unless you accelerate that mass to relativistic velocities.

All plantes will eventually spiral into the sun by virtue of scarce gasses in space, having Jupiter hit something, or many somethings, merely speeds up the process. Hitting a planet might speed the process up a few million or billion years, but it won't be enough to make a major impact before the sun starts entering terminal phase in roughly 2.5 billion years.

What will definitely happen is the creation of a new ring or more likely, an obital cloud system. Jupiter's terminal velocity virtually ensures that. Just as if an asteroid of sufficent mass hit earth, some of the mass would be ejcted into space, so it goes with the largest planet, compunded by the immense gravity. Jupiter already has an orbital cloud, we just don't usually see most of it because the rings it has now date back to the formation of the planet as a swirling whirlpool of mass. Everything that has hit is since was either sucked in or forced into orbit near whatever trajectory it entered from. That's a very wide range of trajectiories, even across a planar galaxy with a definite spin like our own.

Finally, let's go into how Jupiter's current gaseous atmosphere could not escape the gravity well. After all, couldn't some of its own matter be blown away into space? Failing a relativistic impact by something weighing billions of tons and/or traveling at near the speed of light, no. Jupiter's gravity well is so powerful that it affects every planet, and even spacecraft from Earth. It is so powerful that it makes the sun wobble in orbit, just a little, and changes the density of the distant Oort cloud as it passes.

The immense gravity and density is so strong that it prevents even fusion detonated gases from escaping. Just like the sun, where the most violent fusion reactions among light gases occur, the same gases arc into space and fall back. We saw it with SL9, the comet that crashed into Jupiter. It vaporized itself, created plasma reactions we could see, and they never so much as left the cloud strata they were in. And SL9 was a good deal heavier than just light gases.

There is no escaping that gravity well unless very extreme circumstances are considered.

That said, It has been mentioned that Jupiter might become a binary star. Not possible. There is not enough mass in this solar system. When Astronmers say it was "close" they mean "close if you added a few million decillion tons of mass." Our sun alone, a humble yellow dwarf, Is 90% of the mass in the solar system all by itself. Jupiter would need to be a thousand times more massive than it already is just to be a brown dwarf.

Hopefully this fills in some missing details.

tl;dr

Lets shorten this thread. Planet gets torn to pieces. The end. Too long?

[Nine-ball]

Diposting pertama kali oleh ♥♥♥ Pat:

tl;dr

It's alright if you find the post too long to read. Just don't read it. Maybe you're just not in the mood to read anything longer than a quick comment or a blurb.

What I will never understand is the desire to advertise the idea that such a comparatively short bit of reading is "too long." It's like you want the world to know that you are unwilling or unable to read from the Children's Menu of intellectual discourse. People who do this are like the half-retarded kids in school who think it is cool to be stupid. I understand their plight, they have no way out, they're going to look like idiots no matter what they do, and so they make the best of their situation.

But to come on an internet forum, in the midst of a subject like planetary physics, and say "tl:dr?" What is that? Do you want everyone to know that you're an ♥♥♥♥♥? That it takes you more than 30 seconds to read and understand a scant 7 short paragraphs? That you probably couldn't read a book if your life depended on it? How the hell do you read the news? How do you learn anything that isn't spoon-fed in bits that don't tax baby's patience? Why would you ever, ever, want to tell people that a post on the internet is too long for you to read?

There is no rational reason to volunterer that information. In such circumstances, it is better to be thought a fool and keep your mouth shut than to open it and remove all doubt.

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Diposting pertama kali oleh Nine-ball:

Diposting pertama kali oleh ♥♥♥ Pat:

tl;dr

It's alright if you find the post too long to read. Just don't read it. Maybe you're just not in the mood to read anything longer than a quick comment or a blurb.

What I will never understand is the desire to advertise the idea that such a comparatively short bit of reading is "too long." It's like you want the world to know that you are unwilling or unable to read from the Children's Menu of intellectual discourse. People who do this are like the half-retarded kids in school who think it is cool to be stupid. I understand their plight, they have no way out, they're going to look like idiots no matter what they do, and so they make the best of their situation.

But to come on an internet forum, in the midst of a subject like planetary physics, and say "tl:dr?" What is that? Do you want everyone to know that you're an ♥♥♥♥♥? That it takes you more than 30 seconds to read and understand a scant 7 short paragraphs? That you probably couldn't read a book if your life depended on it? How the hell do you read the news? How do you learn anything that isn't spoon-fed in bits that don't tax baby's patience? Why would you ever, ever, want to tell people that a post on the internet is too long for you to read?

There is no rational reason to volunterer that information. In such circumstances, it is better to be thought a fool and keep your mouth shut than to open it and remove all doubt.

It's a meme calm your ♥♥♥♥ down http://prntscr.com/ib1ual
r/iamverysmart

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it do the *boom*

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Diposting pertama kali oleh 「𝓛𝓜」:

it do the *boom*

da bamingboom?

[Myrmicon]

Diposting pertama kali oleh ♥♥♥ Pat:

Diposting pertama kali oleh 「𝓛𝓜」:

it do the *boom*

da bamingboom?

no the poof.

[Nine-ball]

Diposting pertama kali oleh ♥♥♥ Pat:

It's a meme calm your ♥♥♥♥ down http://prntscr.com/ib1ual
r/iamverysmart

And why would you have any interest in spreading it?

[Captain Obviuos™]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Swirl:

What if earth was in orbit around juipiter like its moons.

And jupiter was in orbit where earth had been?

Would life on earth still be possible?

These are actually good questions that, astronomically, we are getting answers to as shown by our Voyagers, Hubble and other sky observers. Recent extra-solar planetary systems we have studied have not matched up to our own solar system very well; in fact, a great many have interior gas giants, called Hot Jupiters, which orbit their stars extremely close. Inner terrestrial planets, like Earth, are proving rare the more we look at the stars (and galaxies) around us.

These Hot Jupiters really ARE hot, with estimates ranging from 800-1,500°C (~2,000°F), but still nowhere near hot enough to become stars.

If Earth were in orbit around Jupiter, which was located here instead, we would likely be affected by tremendous tidal forces and magnetism from Jupiter on one side and the Sun on the other, making it highly unlikely we, or many other moons, could survive (this is why the innermost planets have no moons). And there would be no Venus or Mars, either. The entire solar system would be chaotic.

[Al Capwned]

I would assume if say Earth collided with Jupiter, I think Earth would just be crushed and absorbed. I think it would be similar to other impact events we've witnessed but on a significantly larger scale.

Regardless, Earth would be ****ed, Jupiter would be largely ok.

[Arya]

Diposting pertama kali oleh DeadlyDialga:

Lets shorten this thread. Planet gets torn to pieces. The end. Too long?

I can shorten that even more if neccessary: Splat.

[{루루}RuRu]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Wolfie:

Diposting pertama kali oleh DeadlyDialga:

Lets shorten this thread. Planet gets torn to pieces. The end. Too long?

I can shorten that even more if neccessary: Splat.

Poof.


I win.

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Diposting pertama kali oleh ♥♥♥ Pat:

what would happen if jupiter hit another planet

it has no land, just liquid and gas so would it just pass trough and leave some molten lava on said planet?

We would be trying to work out how the hell mars managed to close such a huge gap.