Opinions on people who get salty and upset in videogames?

[Vectif]

What do you usually think of people or your friends who get salty and upset at videogames?

I'm personally a really chill guy and I play for fun, but a lot of my long time friends have always been rather salty or toxic towards the videogames se play, mostly all with a really competitive scene.

I'm not a careless player, I actually play decently and perform well, I just don't see the need to get fairly upset and toxic at the opposition regardless of how competitive the game is. I believe that having a high morale would help everyone rather than pouting and getting upset because you've began losing or because someone did a cheap play. I mean, you can be very good at a game without necessarily being salty or toxic about it.

I just wanna find a way to help them but telling them to have a positive ambience and outlook doesn't seem to help. But I don't want them getting angry or frustrated at games anymore.

I don't care at all if it's someone else, but its a bit annoying when it is my friends doing it.

What are your thoughts about people who get salty or frustrated in games? Or about this situation?

[Enriquez]

Idk probably dedicated to the moment.

[Violeta]

It can be funny when its other people. But when its friends its ultra annoying if it makes them quit or start playing like a jerk.

What I hate is when a friend gets salty and then refuses all help "Because they can do it!" and they can't. Then they get all depressed or more salty.

[Radene]

I don't really think about them. Got enough stuff on my mind and don't need to worry about them as well.

[Vectif]

Originally posted by Radene:

I don't really think about them. Got enough stuff on my mind and don't need to worry about them as well.

Yeah, I get that. I don't care when it's other people either. But, what if it was your friends having that attitude?

[Xero_Daxter]

I get salty sometimes when I lose. It's not the losing part that gets me... it's my teammates. I hate it when they don't do their part and they just stay at the spawnpoint not contributing to anything.

[Vectif]

Originally posted by Xero_Daxter:

I get salty sometimes when I lose. It's not the losing part that gets me... it's my teammates. I hate it when they don't do their part and they just stay at the spawnpoint not contributing to anything.

Why instead of getting upset at them you try instead to educate them in a good manner on how to perform well or do better? Specially if they're people you play with or see often.

[Vectif]

Originally posted by Toast:

You will be judged by the company you keep. Besides, the kind of behavior you're talking about is a potential red flag. If it bothers you enough, then at the very least, it might be a good idea to stop playing those types of games with them. You can still do other stuff together.

Exercise your freedom of choice.

What makes the "judging" aspect relevant? Just curious.

Anyways, these games are a rather big asset and part of our time together, so taking it away would take a big chunk of the time we spend together, and removing that I'm afraid would really hinder the friendship. They're people I've known for +3 years, they're not bad or abusive people at all either, we have fairly interesting talks about everything and life itself, plus we always help each other - thing is, it's only sometimes that in games they get rather annoyed. I mean, probably could do other things but the probable effectiveness of that is a bit lacking, have in mind those are also games I wanna be playing, not only them! I'm not being forced or harassed personally, but I just don't like the ambience they sometimes generate.

[Xero_Daxter]

Originally posted by Rhaonoa:

Originally posted by Xero_Daxter:

I get salty sometimes when I lose. It's not the losing part that gets me... it's my teammates. I hate it when they don't do their part and they just stay at the spawnpoint not contributing to anything.

Why instead of getting upset at them you try instead to educate them in a good manner on how to perform well or do better? Specially if they're people you play with or see often.

I tell then to capture B Flag. They don't listen. :/

[L7vanmatre]

For me, it depends on where the salt gets placed.

If it's directed towards teammates because said teammates are playing a class that's more fun but not a "meta" then yeah, I get a little irritated about it. Or if the teammates are just having a bad day with their skill.

But if the salt is like "NOOOO YOU KILLED ME YOU STUPID JERK I ALMOST HAD YOU AAAAAAAAA" (the more friendly kind of salt, with a lack of better words) then I don't mind, hehehe. Such salt dies quickly and doesn't really hurt anyone. At least in my experience. I never really get much exercise so if I play games while I have all this excess energy, I get such a type of salt just because it's a way for my body to expend energy. But if I'm just in a relaxed state then I don't really (I prefer it if I'm relaxed though).

[Vectif]

Originally posted by Xero_Daxter:

Originally posted by Rhaonoa:

Why instead of getting upset at them you try instead to educate them in a good manner on how to perform well or do better? Specially if they're people you play with or see often.

I tell then to capture B Flag. They don't listen. :/

I mean, it's totally reasonable when they don't listen. If you kindly try to help them and they don't listen to you then it's not your fault, not much you can do about it. If the first time you asked nicely then it's on them if they don't comply. In which case you just need different teammates.

[Dennemi³]

What a bunch of ♥♥♥♥♥♥' losers, look if your losing don't be yelling at me you ♥♥♥♥. Or at anyone in fact.

[Vectif]

Originally posted by Toast:

Originally posted by Rhaonoa:

Why instead of getting upset at them you try instead to educate them in a good manner on how to perform well or do better? Specially if they're people you play with or see often.

You're not responsible for their behavior. You're only responsible for your own choices.

Yes, totally. But you can always try to help others. After that, it depends whether they listen or not. You're right, its about your choices, but you should help or try to help others, if theyre willing to comply. Not everything is only you and yourself. Specially when you're in a team.

[Dennemi³]

Originally posted by Toast:

Originally posted by Rhaonoa:

Why instead of getting upset at them you try instead to educate them in a good manner on how to perform well or do better? Specially if they're people you play with or see often.

You're not responsible for their behavior. You're only responsible for your own choices.

I dunno usually if I got a friend or two with me, we make him even more saltier.
Ohhh~ The amount of CS:GO players which got banned by attacking us out of rage.

[Vectif]

Originally posted by Toast:

Originally posted by Rhaonoa:

What makes the "judging" aspect relevant? Just curious.

It's just something important to keep in mind. The people you choose to associate with are going to reflect positively or negatively on you in the eyes of others.

Originally posted by Rhaonoa:

Anyways, these games are a rather big asset and part of our time together, so taking it away would take a big chunk of the time we spend together, and removing that I'm afraid would really hinder the friendship. They're people I've known for +3 years, they're not bad or abusive people at all either, we have fairly interesting talks about everything and life itself, plus we always help each other - thing is, it's only sometimes that in games they get rather annoyed. I mean, probably could do other things but the probable effectiveness of that is a bit lacking, have in mind those are also games I wanna be playing, not only them! I'm not being forced or harassed personally, but I just don't like the ambience they sometimes generate.

So they're not not bad or abusive... except for the majority of time that you're with them,

:BITRAY_Neutral:

Sounds like it is time to re-evaluate your friendships.

I mean, I don't care at all what people think of me. Seeing the outlook and opinion you seem to have on life, neither should you. If they're gonna judge me without knowing me, out of someone else's words, or due to who I hang out with, then it's them that are losing my potential as the person and friend that I am. And I'd rather not attract superficial and fake people to my life who judge such irrelevant aspects. I can see why, but I don't support such practises. They should get to know who I really am themselves.

You're misunderstanding and making wild assumptions. I've never said they're abusive and bad towards me, but towards the game and the other people other than us in it. I just don't like seeing them get frustrated or angered at a videogame. Thing is also that we talk about things and discuss life while also playing the games, it's just like eyecandy or activity rather than just sitting there. They don't have a problem with me, nor do I with them, I just don't want them to have those issues with the games they play, and to just have fun instead.

[Vectif]

Originally posted by Toast:

Your life and your friendships do not exist in a vaccum. People judge eachother as a means of protection. If I see that your friends are all abusive, then I am going to judge you for it, because that's how I'm going to know whether or not I want to let you into my life, and it's going to determine how I deal with you on that basis. I don't need or want that in my life, and you have it in yours, so I'm going to be very cautious about dealing with you.

What I see from you so far looks very much like co-dependency to me. You seem afraid to lose friends which you freely admit are misbehaving, and you appear to making excuses to avoid that fear. It doesn't look healthy to me. Be an individual. Take responsibility for what you allow into your life.

I see where you're coming from, and to a degree I do judge people on that basis myself as a means of security, but I try to look past our misjudging perceptions unless it's an extreme case. I try to see if that person is onto any different group, activies, and their attitudes individually. I've been in all sorts of social groups from totally respectful almost gentleman people to total drug junkies, but that doesn't mean I am one too, cause I don't do drugs nor any of their practises at all. Sure, you're in your right to feel threatened and have to put me in the same bag to not take risks, I do that too! But plenty of times you can look beyond, and personally I don't care what you do as long as you don't harm others in the process, but most importantly, if you are a good person. So I accept everyone who has such good quality.

Regardless of that, I don't feel like their "misbehaving" is on a serious degree, I can deal with being alone or changing friends just fine if the situations and attitudes say so, but it's not that much of a serious issue, so I'd rather try to help rather than totally ditch them, cause as I've said they're not bad people, and it's only in silly videogames they ever pull such attitudes, but they arent directed at me, nor are serious. It's like if they just gave a small friendly punch un the shoulder at someone rather than shoot and beat them to death. You seem to be taking this as a much more serious manner than it is. They're not harming me nor each other, just get a bit upset at games and either say a cuss to the air or just throw a complaint. Unlike other salty / toxic people who straight out harass and insult everyone, on top of literally hindering the experience un the game - but they do not do that.

Either way, if thats what you perceive, that's valid, and I appreciate your input, but I don't feel like it's proper for the degree of this case. Although I'll keep it in mind should it come down to it, thanks.