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Such propaganda, much wow
Also there have been thousands of religious countries that have died out quickly. Your argument is pretty one-sided.
Before you mention the USSR, please note that they rebelled against a crappy and inept regime (ironically to be replaced by one just as bad), not necessarily against religion.
There's also the fact that many people like to have proof of a "higher power", which there currently isn't unless you believe a bunch of old books and texts. There's nothing really wrong with religion or religious people, but I for one just can't believe any of it myself.
To answer the thread's question, probably Telsa. If he had money he could have done a lot.
Oh, that was antagonistic, was it?
Can you define how it was propaganda? I was using logic to make my argument. Do you have any for yours? Do you have one?
You already knew I was going to mention the USSR. You're a clever one. Very perceptive, or at least familiar with the example.
propaganda
prɒpəˈɡandə/
noun
noun: propaganda; noun: Propaganda
1.
information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote a political cause or point of view.
But hey, if you want to worship fictional characters and stuff, feel free.
A little, yep.
And if you want to miss the point that religion is demonstrably superior to the nothing you have to offer as an argument, feel free. It won't be JUdgement Day or God coming for you, it will be other people preying on your lack of knowledge first.
Thank you for clarifying. Do you have anything to add or should I just leave you to your business?
Also Verne was a writer, not a scientist (although he did predict quite a lot).
Again, show me actual proof that Jesus did things such as turn water into wine or got ressurected and I'll believe it. The problem is is that there is no proof of that, so I cannot believe it.
Do I believe that he was a good and important man with good teachings? Yes I do.
Do I believe that there is an all-seeing entity, magic, and whatnot? I don't.
I also accidentally deleted your first point, and since I'm on mobile I don't want to go through the effort of fixing it, so answer me this:
What does any of that have to do with the topic at hand? That could be applied to anything, including the development of religion. Admittedly you're not entirely wrong - many revolutionaries think of the present rather than the future (since we mentioned the USSR, it's a good example).
Since we're on opposite banks here, and likely won't move soon, better leave it be.
You are the one who is believing that fiction is real. If anyone is displaying a lack of knowledge, it is you, and I have already preyed on that.
AC power would not have existed without the free market, which exists solely because of the enlightenment, which I am most certainly attributing to Christianity.
Then don't believe it. You can hardly deny the miraculous effect upon society. A strange assertion for a rational person.
That's entirely up to you. Believe, don't believe, it's no business of mine, even according to my religion. Only you can ever accept Christ into your heart. Only you can give yourself salvation.
{qutoe=I also accidentally deleted your first point, and since I'm on mobile I don't want to go through the effort of fixing it, so answer me this:
What does any of that have to do with the topic at hand? That could be applied to anything, including the development of religion. Admittedly you're not entirely wrong - many revolutionaries think of the present rather than the future (since we mentioned the USSR, it's a good example). [/quote]
Which " first point" are you referring to? I'll admit, my logic could be applied to the development of anything, but given empirical data, religion works. I don't understand what you're trying to say.