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Incarnate 2018 年 3 月 10 日 下午 6:59
What are some badly-aged games I should stay away from?
My rig is painfully average and I kind of hate new games anyway so I've been playing retro games lately. The thing I noticed is that some of the gems from yesterday are still quite playable, and others don't hold up at all.

Case in point: GTA San Andreas. Around the time this game came out in late 2004 you had HL 2, Thief 3, Doom 3, F.E.A.R., and Far Cry come out and they all pushed the medium forward in interesting ways either by introducing dynamic lighting, ragdoll physics, drastically improved water/enviromental/particle effects, or advanced AI. Even on vanilla they still look fairly decent today.

And then you had San Andreas, which ran on an ancient engine, has lousy canned death animations, horrendous physics (you can push semis around by jogging into them), and just generally looks ugly and pixelated. All it has to offer is a big, empty map. I know it's blashpemous to say this, but that game was outdated a month after it came out.
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FedEx Noelle 2018 年 3 月 10 日 下午 7:04 
All those things are true for Gta San Andreas. But no one cared about that stuff back then. Plus, the story and characters are great. I've never played a Grand Theft Auto game that didn't have a good story.
Hannah Nelson! 2018 年 3 月 10 日 下午 7:08 
引用自 Conflictions Ⓐ
All those things are true for Gta San Andreas. But no one cared about that stuff back then. Plus, the story and characters are great. I've never played a Grand Theft Auto game that didn't have a good story.
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最后由 Hannah Nelson! 编辑于; 2018 年 3 月 10 日 下午 7:08
BRM62C 2018 年 3 月 10 日 下午 7:13 
I think every game has value to it, i don't think time necessarily takes value from any game except for the fact that there are maybe more better games now. Also to like/dislike a game is purely subjective unless literally everyone hates a game, and in that case you can just look up "the worst games of 2000s" or something.

| GTA San Andreas is my favorite GTA. It doesn't have the best graphics but they're not really the worst either. It does have a good story, you can do more in San Andreas than most of the other GTAs also. You must haven't played it before, but i do respect your opinion. |
∴ Snake ∴ 2018 年 3 月 10 日 下午 7:33 
引用自 Incarnate
All it has to offer is a big, empty map.
I'm sorry but that's a load of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. San Andreas has way more to offer than a "big empty map". If that were the case, people wouldn't be discovering new things in the game in this day and age. Anyone who has played the game will agree with me on this.

The only real problems SA had were the bad graphics and physics I suppose. Though physics didn't and still don't play a big deal in games compared to having an amazing story (which SA had), great gameplay (which SA had), TONS of content (again, which SA had).

Bad example aside, you should stay away from GTA 3, because THAT right there, is dated. The old Thief games also come to mind, especially because you need to do some heavy tweaking in order to get them to work at decent settings. You could also argue that the original Half Life is pretty dated, but I personally disagree. I find it superior to HL2 in every way, excluding the graphics and physics. Metal Gear Solid 1 and Splinter Cell 1 are also very clunky, but they're still great games once you get past the controls.
zZzooey.exe 2018 年 3 月 10 日 下午 7:36 
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All those things are true for Gta San Andreas. But no one cared about that stuff back then. Plus, the story and characters are great. I've never played a Grand Theft Auto game that didn't have a good story.
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BRM62C 2018 年 3 月 10 日 下午 7:36 
引用自 ∴ Snake ∴
引用自 Incarnate
All it has to offer is a big, empty map.
I'm sorry but that's a load of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. San Andreas has way more to offer than a "big empty map". If that were the case, people wouldn't be discovering new things in the game in this day and age. Anyone who has played the game will agree with me on this.

The only real problems SA had were the bad graphics and physics I suppose. Though physics didn't and still don't play a big deal in games compared to having an amazing story (which SA had), great gameplay (which SA had), TONS of content (again, which SA had).

True, It just shows that they most likely haven't played the game. But yeah GTA 3 was horrible in my opinon, i couldn't get past the first few missions haha, and i didn't like the controls or the gun zoom etc. It seemed very limited, but that's just my personal opinion. A lot of people on here love the game.
FedEx Noelle 2018 年 3 月 10 日 下午 7:42 
引用自 brandon
引用自 ∴ Snake ∴
I'm sorry but that's a load of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. San Andreas has way more to offer than a "big empty map". If that were the case, people wouldn't be discovering new things in the game in this day and age. Anyone who has played the game will agree with me on this.

The only real problems SA had were the bad graphics and physics I suppose. Though physics didn't and still don't play a big deal in games compared to having an amazing story (which SA had), great gameplay (which SA had), TONS of content (again, which SA had).

True, It just shows that they most likely haven't played the game. But yeah GTA 3 was horrible in my opinon, i couldn't get past the first few missions haha, and i didn't like the controls or the gun zoom etc. It seemed very limited, but that's just my personal opinion. A lot of people on here love the game.
You have the same opinion as my friends irl. They hate gta3 but I liked it due to the many cast of characters in the game. This is me talking from my past self though. I haven't played it in almost 8 years.
SgtEmissary [Kane's Will] 2018 年 3 月 10 日 下午 7:47 
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引用自 brandon

True, It just shows that they most likely haven't played the game. But yeah GTA 3 was horrible in my opinon, i couldn't get past the first few missions haha, and i didn't like the controls or the gun zoom etc. It seemed very limited, but that's just my personal opinion. A lot of people on here love the game.
You have the same opinion as my friends irl. They hate gta3 but I liked it due to the many cast of characters in the game. This is me talking from my past self though. I haven't played it in almost 8 years.

Eh... GTA III was revolutionary upon launch, I remember as a kid being so impressed and blown away by the 3D graphics for the time, considering there was 2D and voxel and so on. It helped set a standard and helped get the whole 'open-world' and 3D thing going etc. With that said, I think it deserves a place in video-game history, being a pivotal moment.

But now a days as more and more games like San Andreas were released, it's just aged terribly.

I get the appeal of the characters but the dated visuals, lack content and lacking game-play is just a turn off for me. As well as the theme, to this day I still regard San Andreas the best... and IMO, III and Vice City, there's just no going back for me, nothing of worth there.
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BRM62C 2018 年 3 月 10 日 下午 7:49 
引用自 Conflictions Ⓐ
引用自 brandon

True, It just shows that they most likely haven't played the game. But yeah GTA 3 was horrible in my opinon, i couldn't get past the first few missions haha, and i didn't like the controls or the gun zoom etc. It seemed very limited, but that's just my personal opinion. A lot of people on here love the game.
You have the same opinion as my friends irl. They hate gta3 but I liked it due to the many cast of characters in the game. This is me talking from my past self though. I haven't played it in almost 8 years.
I mean i wouldn't go as far to say i hate it, the map was great, no lie, but San Andres was better in all the ways i didn't like GTA 3, so i just shelved it. I'd probably like it if i got past mission 3 but that was also like 7-8 years ago when i was 8-11 years old and didn't care much about stories, i cared about causing mayhem. I guess we have been out of GTA gaming for a while lol. I have GTA SA on my wishlist though, i'm getting it soon.
最后由 BRM62C 编辑于; 2018 年 3 月 10 日 下午 7:51
BRM62C 2018 年 3 月 10 日 下午 7:52 
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You have the same opinion as my friends irl. They hate gta3 but I liked it due to the many cast of characters in the game. This is me talking from my past self though. I haven't played it in almost 8 years.

Eh... GTA III was revolutionary upon launch, I remember as a kid being so impressed and blown away by the 3D graphics for the time, considering there was 2D and voxel and so on. It helped set a standard and helped get the whole 'open-world' and 3D thing going etc. With that said, I think it deserves a place in video-game history, being a pivotal moment.

But now a days as more and more games like San Andreas were released, it's just aged terribly.

I get the appeal of the characters but the dated visuals, lack content and lacking game-play is just a turn off for me. As well as the theme, to this day I still regard San Andreas the best... and IMO, III and Vice City, there's just no going back for me, nothing of worth there.
Oh yeah true, i can agree with you on that, i forgot about that. It was the first modern looking GTA. It's funny that we all played GTA as kids.
∴ Snake ∴ 2018 年 3 月 10 日 下午 7:56 
引用自 Conflictions Ⓐ
You have the same opinion as my friends irl. They hate gta3 but I liked it due to the many cast of characters in the game. This is me talking from my past self though. I haven't played it in almost 8 years.

Eh... GTA III was revolutionary upon launch, I remember as a kid being so impressed and blown away by the 3D graphics for the time, considering there was 2D and voxel and so on. It helped set a standard and helped get the whole 'open-world' and 3D thing going etc. With that said, I think it deserves a place in video-game history, being a pivotal moment.
I don't think anyone is denying how revolutionary GTA III was. It was pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ amazing back then. Huge open world to explore, you could drive, run, shoot. It was pretty great. But nowadays after playing SA, you just can't go back to GTA III because of how badly it aged. Your character is mute, the graphics are horrible, you can't swim, the shooting is bad, etc.
Incarnate 2018 年 3 月 10 日 下午 7:56 
引用自 brandon
引用自 ∴ Snake ∴
I'm sorry but that's a load of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. San Andreas has way more to offer than a "big empty map". If that were the case, people wouldn't be discovering new things in the game in this day and age. Anyone who has played the game will agree with me on this.

The only real problems SA had were the bad graphics and physics I suppose. Though physics didn't and still don't play a big deal in games compared to having an amazing story (which SA had), great gameplay (which SA had), TONS of content (again, which SA had).

True, It just shows that they most likely haven't played the game.

I actually played San Andreas twice when it came out. Compared to Vice City, San Andreas's map was big, empty, and boring. The customization was just sort of filler content for me. I think those two things were the big selling points. Wasn't saying the story aged badly. I mean I love Vice City and it is basically just rehashed Scarface...

Sorry, didn't mean this to turn into a debate on the GTA series.
BRM62C 2018 年 3 月 10 日 下午 8:04 
引用自 Incarnate
引用自 brandon

True, It just shows that they most likely haven't played the game.

I actually played San Andreas twice when it came out. Compared to Vice City, San Andreas's map was big, empty, and boring. The customization was just sort of filler content for me. I think those two things were the big selling points. Wasn't saying the story aged badly. I mean I love Vice City and it is basically just rehashed Scarface...

Sorry, didn't mean this to turn into a debate on the GTA series.
Ohh okay, sorry about that. I mean the countryside is kinda empty, i'll give you that, but there's a lot to do, and way more to do than Vice City. I love Vice City too though.

That's my fault, i started it, my bad. But yeah you can check out "Worst Ps2/Pc/Xbox" games and there will be a lot of bad games you can be sure to avoid, but i'm sure no one is playing them lol.
最后由 BRM62C 编辑于; 2018 年 3 月 10 日 下午 8:04
Incarnate 2018 年 3 月 10 日 下午 8:16 
引用自 brandon
you can check out "Worst Ps2/Pc/Xbox" games and there will be a lot of ♥♥♥♥♥♥ bad games you can bbe sure to avoid, but i'm sure no one is playing them lol.

Not looking for shi**y games (per se) just wondering if there's any games I should stay away from that have dated poorly from a tech perspective. I wanted to play System Shock 2, but the horrible graphics and animations seem a bit much to tolerate. The first two Thief games have the same problem, amazing gameplay but in a lot of long, featureless corridors with laughable animations.
BRM62C 2018 年 3 月 10 日 下午 8:22 
引用自 Incarnate
引用自 brandon
you can check out "Worst Ps2/Pc/Xbox" games and there will be a lot of ♥♥♥♥♥♥ bad games you can bbe sure to avoid, but i'm sure no one is playing them lol.

Not looking for shi**y games (per se) just wondering if there's any games I should stay away from that have dated poorly from a tech perspective. I wanted to play System Shock 2, but the horrible graphics and animations seem a bit much to tolerate. The first two Thief games have the same problem, amazing gameplay but in a lot of long, featureless corridors with laughable animations.
Off the top of my head i'd only have to say Half Life and Counter Strike 1.6.
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