Nudity/Sexual Content in Steam games

[jasontatemusic]

What is Steam's actual policy on Nudity in games? For example, The Witcher III has sex scenes... but some games featuring topless anime girls aren't featured. What is the clear extent of what can be published on steam?

[󠀡󠀡]

u want boobs and butts? or less of em?

[jasontatemusic]

What are the actual parameters of what you can publish? Or are they outlined?

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jasontatemusic eredeti hozzászólása:

What are the actual parameters of what you can publish? Or are they outlined?

ask greenlight weebs, they hack their way into steam on a daily basis

[jasontatemusic]

I mean this isn't just anime games, the Witcher has full on sex scenes.

[jasontatemusic]

Okay... it's 2018. We remember on the NES when Golgo 13 went into the hotel room and turned out the light with a lady sillouette. It was suggestive.

We are now on the verge of having a lot more sexual scenarios in games like The Witcher, Dragon Age, whatever... I'm not singling out anime games, I'm asking what the parameters are. It isn't about what I want.

[jasontatemusic]

If we can make a game simulating shooting someone in the head, or dropping bombs on people... what are the parameters for nudity in games?

[The nameless Gamer]

There has been a very long and extensive discussion on this topic before it was locked due to derailing. Some quasi-moralist hicks are constantly playing the "pedophilia card" because to them, anime characters are made to look underage, to encourage sexual attraction towards minors. And they've been repeating that for over a decade like a broken record. It's an endless tug of war between them and anime game fans, with no-one prevailing in the end.

[Pan Paka Pan]

There is another thread with a different title about the same topic open here.
To discard the PayPal card, PayPal terms says it doesn’t allow any graphics including violence in the products, yet billions of extreme gore games being sold every day.
In other words, using PayPal as excuse they can’t sell stuff is a lie. Many webstores sell sex stuff using PayPal, and violent games (like Steam).

[kaibarnard]

People are prudish and also don't understand anime, so mainstream titles can inlcude sex and they're fine - BUT you make them tiddies cartoons OR make the game 'about sex' then you have issues

I mean, it's up to steam what they want to sell and people to buy. I think steam jsut got burnt so...will shut up and do nothing

Personally played a few games and enjoyed them, can recommend a few nice VNs if people want to play some. But theirs a moral crusade that recently 'won' against steam all bit it only for a short time....so now it's got some publiciity

[Pan Paka Pan]

I think everyone should be allowed to play whatever they want.
And Valve should be allowed to sell whatever they want.
If they ban all anime games, competitors stores will just profit from the opportunity. GOG for example is already profiting from this situation by taking some Visual Novels to sell there. MangaGamer is working with them to sell more there as well.
Steam can opt for more money or “morality”, w/e they choose, financial consequences are expected.

[Tazor]

You can make Steam stop showing you anime porn by tweaking some settings. But no matter what, you can't stop Steam from showing you half assed broken asset flips.

Guess which is the bigger problem on this platform.

[aiusepsi]

You're not allowed to put pornography on Steam (as per this documentation page)

Of course, then you have the question of what exactly constitutes pornography; just containing a sex scene doesn't make something pornography, necessarily, even if it contains people without clothes on. Plenty of Hollywood movies have sex scenes, and they're not generally considered pornography. I think most people wouldn't call something like "Blue is the Warmest Colour" pornography, even though that has incredibly graphic (and very, very long) sex scenes.

In 1964, a US Supreme Court justice said this:

I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description ["hard-core pornography"], and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it, and the motion picture involved in this case is not that.

So it's tricky to define, and may well end up being somewhat subjective. Unfortunately, the other side of coin from "subjective" is "arbitrary and capricious".

[ReBoot]

To he honest, your typical (soft) porn anime VN has a specific trait thats not shared by GTA or The Witcher: Its pretty much nothing but nudity/raunchy topics. While they (the VNs) usually pretend to have a plot, its about as important or deep as this of movies usually considered porn: A poor excuse for providing wank material.
I agree though that broken games are a bigger concern, than cheap porn and should be solved first (assuming the second even needs solving).

[Pan Paka Pan]

aiusepsi eredeti hozzászólása:

You're not allowed to put pornography on Steam (as per this documentation page)

Of course, then you have the question of what exactly constitutes pornography; just containing a sex scene doesn't make something pornography, necessarily, even if it contains people without clothes on. Plenty of Hollywood movies have sex scenes, and they're not generally considered pornography. I think most people wouldn't call something like "Blue is the Warmest Colour" pornography, even though that has incredibly graphic (and very, very long) sex scenes.

In 1964, a US Supreme Court justice said this:

I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description ["hard-core pornography"], and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it, and the motion picture involved in this case is not that.

So it's tricky to define, and may well end up being somewhat subjective. Unfortunately, the other side of coin from "subjective" is "arbitrary and capricious".

“You are not allowed to put pornography on Steam”.
Gta5
Witcher 3
Both have explicit sex. Double standards?
They are clearly targeting “anime” games.

[Pan Paka Pan]

ReBoot eredeti hozzászólása:

To he honest, your typical (soft) porn anime VN has a specific trait thats not shared by GTA or The Witcher: Its pretty much nothing but nudity/raunchy topics. While they (the VNs) usually pretend to have a plot, its about as important or deep as this of movies usually considered porn: A poor excuse for providing wank material.
I agree though that broken games are a bigger concern, than cheap porn and should be solved first (assuming the second even needs solving).

Kindred Spirits on the Roof is just a tiny fraction with sex, yet they received the letter (later they said to disregard, but they are re-reviewing it).
Some VNs have only a small part or just the ending with sex, while others are pretty much full sex without any real story.