The Whole Women In Video Games Thing.

[Revicodi69]

I think most of the people who comment on this topic really miss the point, from what I was told about this situation , is that the problem is not really 100% about women being in a video game but the fact that EA (poop company) and DICE (EA's punk company) are bending over backwards to appease the sjws rather than the fans who supported them in the begging. ( DISCLAIMER: I hate the battlefield series and the devs that make them)

I mean I'm scared of the tlou 2(the last of us) because the head director ( Neal Druckman-career sjw ♥♥♥♥♥♥) is a big time sjw who loves to shove his ideals down his audiences throats. For example: In the Uncharted- thieves end, they had a character named Nadine who was maybe 110lbs soak and wet and yet she can not only beat up a man like Nathan Drake (adventure who knows how to climb and fight), but also his brother(guy who was in jail for a long time and probably did nothing but fight to stay alive)...….AT THE SAME TIME!!!!! Now if you follow Naughty Dog news you would know that Neal and company got a lot of crap for not being realistic. Which in that regard make sense.

Now in tlou (1) dlc (left behind) they include a little more of Elie's background and story between her and riley (her best friend). Now as you play towards the end of the dlc………. (SPOLIER ALERT)……… Elie kisses Riley and from what I can tell this means that Elie is bi-sexual or gay. Why in the earthly ♥♥♥ do we as an audience need to know that? WHY???!!! Well the devs of games and other forms of media want to conditioning people to accepting other peoples life choices and have nothing negative to say about that life style and those that do say anything negative, chastise them.

In short women in games is not the issue ( Horrizon Zero Dawn- Great game-Female protagonist), but the way of the worlds thinking is.

Thanks for you time.

Revicodi69

[Revicodi69]

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You know what is truly disrespectful? The entire notion that games are for heterosexual men. That their needs outweigh all others, and that games should cater solely to them despite marginalizing everybody else. The idea that because I care - truly and deeply - for another woman that I'm somehow doing something wrong. That I need to be hurried off a screen, lest my feelings of love and tenderness terrify some poor old dear.

That is disrespect in the most true and literal sense.

True. Not just in games but for anime and other shows as well. I see some scenes that's very innapropriate for girls and most likely they creating these kind of content for men. Switch roles and what do you think men feels about this? Most probably women will not care and will be the same aspect for another SJW argument bs.

ur talking to wall my friend. gl.

[CodeGreen]

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True. Not just in games but for anime and other shows as well. I see some scenes that's very innapropriate for girls and most likely they creating these kind of content for men. Switch roles and what do you think men feels about this? Most probably women will not care and will be the same aspect for another SJW argument bs.

ur talking to wall my friend. gl.

So you're saying his/her message doesn't have value for the topic you created? Look man the guy has a point and don't ignore these things just because you said it's "wall thing". I'm trying to respect others here. :(

[∴ Snake ∴]

Escrito originalmente por Revicodi69:

I think most of the people who comment on this topic really miss the point, from what I was told about this situation , is that the problem is not really 100% about women being in a video game but the fact that EA (poop company) and DICE (EA's punk company) are bending over backwards to appease the sjws rather than the fans who supported them in the begging. ( DISCLAIMER: I hate the battlefield series and the devs that make them)

Whether DICE/EA is trying to pander to a certain group or not, is irrelevant. Not many people have a problem with the fact that women are in the game. The problem is that the game looks like a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ mess, just from that trailer alone.

A tank ramming through a house with friendlies in it, the CoD like "gameplay" of the woman quickscoping some guy and the running and gunning, and then the planes and cars just crashing and falling down. It looked like the train scene from CoD WWII. That's how ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ funny and ridiculous it was.

And don't get me started on the prosthetic and the cricket bat. Or the woman's "badass" attitude in the middle of the battle. Oh yeah, and when the friendly soldier throws back the grenade, and the player instantly aims at it, all while a plane flies low, and then the player shoots the grenade with perfect timing, and the plane just BLOWS UP AND CRASHES. WHAT THE ♥♥♥♥?

It's less of an SJW thing, and more of a "♥♥♥♥ you guys, take this ♥♥♥♥♥♥ trailer and pre order our game." If you compare THAT monstrosity to the BF4 multiplayer trailer (that actually shows real gameplay, mind you) it's a completely different thing.

Escrito originalmente por Revicodi69:

I mean I'm scared of the tlou 2(the last of us) because the head director ( Neal Druckman-career sjw ♥♥♥♥♥♥) is a big time sjw who loves to shove his ideals down his audiences throats. For example: In the Uncharted- thieves end, they had a character named Nadine who was maybe 110lbs soak and wet and yet she can not only beat up a man like Nathan Drake (adventure who knows how to climb and fight), but also his brother(guy who was in jail for a long time and probably did nothing but fight to stay alive)...….AT THE SAME TIME!!!!! Now if you follow Naughty Dog news you would know that Neal and company got a lot of crap for not being realistic. Which in that regard make sense.

I'm pretty sure Nadine was in the military, or atleast she worked as a mercenary. Not to mention how Drake and Sam are old in that game. But I get what you mean. As for TLOU2, I doubt it'll be filled with SJW stuff. They had women killing each other in the teaser they released a long time ago, and the original game didn't really try to appeal to them.

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Now in tlou (1) dlc (left behind) they include a little more of Elie's background and story between her and riley (her best friend). Now as you play towards the end of the dlc………. (SPOLIER ALERT)……… Elie kisses Riley and from what I can tell this means that Elie is bi-sexual or gay. Why in the earthly ♥♥♥ do we as an audience need to know that? WHY???!!! Well the devs of games and other forms of media want to conditioning people to accepting other peoples life choices and have nothing negative to say about that life style and those that do say anything negative, chastise them.

The players needed to know that because IIRC they were best friends and were surviving together. It's pretty natural that they would start having feelings, since they were alone and everything. It's not like they had rough sex on camera or anything, it was just a smooch between them.

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In short women in games is not the issue ( Horrizon Zero Dawn- Great game-Female protagonist), but the way of the worlds thinking is.

Thanks for you time.

Pretty much.

[Revicodi69]

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Escrito originalmente por Revicodi69:

ur talking to wall my friend. gl.

So you're saying his/her message doesn't have value for the topic you created? Look man the guy has a point and don't ignore these things just because you said it's "wall thing". I'm trying to respect others here. :(

ok, i was on ur side and all. but whatever.

[Corrosion]

I don't quite understand...

So from the kissing example in the OP, RE: why do we have to know that as the audience, doesn't that also go the other way? Could someone who identifies as a part of the LGBTQ audience not ask literally the same question, when they see the millions of heterosexual romances portrayed in gaming? Why is everything supposed to be directed at only one segment of the audience, given how wide the gaming community as a whole is?

As far as EA goes, I think EA has done way more things that seriously have 'disrespected' the gaming community as a whole than include amputee women in their unrealistic war shooters. EA is stupid and of course they're pandering, in the most stupid way possible, but that is hardly the worst thing they've done to the gaming community.

While I agree with the core of what you're saying, inclusion is a good thing. I don't mind everything not being catered to me, it's not a big deal.

[Revicodi69]

Escrito originalmente por The Witness:

I don't quite understand...

So from the kissing example in the OP, RE: why do we have to know that as the audience, doesn't that also go the other way? Could someone who identifies as a part of the LGBTQ audience not ask literally the same question, when they see the millions of heterosexual romances portrayed in gaming? Why is everything supposed to be directed at only one segment of the audience, given how wide the gaming community as a whole is?

As far as EA goes, I think EA has done way more things that seriously have 'disrespected' the gaming community as a whole than include amputee women in their unrealistic war shooters. EA is stupid and of course they're pandering, in the most stupid way possible, but that is hardly the worst thing they've done to the gaming community.

While I agree with the core of what you're saying, inclusion is a good thing. I don't mind everything not being catered to me, it's not a big deal.

i respect ur civilty. i would rather play a game with no liberal crap and u the other way. i understand

[Corrosion]

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Escrito originalmente por The Witness:

I don't quite understand...

So from the kissing example in the OP, RE: why do we have to know that as the audience, doesn't that also go the other way? Could someone who identifies as a part of the LGBTQ audience not ask literally the same question, when they see the millions of heterosexual romances portrayed in gaming? Why is everything supposed to be directed at only one segment of the audience, given how wide the gaming community as a whole is?

As far as EA goes, I think EA has done way more things that seriously have 'disrespected' the gaming community as a whole than include amputee women in their unrealistic war shooters. EA is stupid and of course they're pandering, in the most stupid way possible, but that is hardly the worst thing they've done to the gaming community.

While I agree with the core of what you're saying, inclusion is a good thing. I don't mind everything not being catered to me, it's not a big deal.

i respect ur civilty. i would rather play a game with no liberal crap and u the other way. i understand

Yep, preferences. Not a deal breaker for me either way, as long as it's done tastefully. If the situation of the game is priority, then it's cool.

Also just saying: that child molester post was quite....out of line. Sexuality isn't a life choice and equating the portrayal of healthy sexual expression to deviant sexual behavior is...yikes. It's like how a lot of people said "Well, why can't people marry their animals then??" as a response to same sex marriage...I trust you can see why that's very wrong.

[Krav]

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Escrito originalmente por The Witness:

I don't quite understand...

So from the kissing example in the OP, RE: why do we have to know that as the audience, doesn't that also go the other way? Could someone who identifies as a part of the LGBTQ audience not ask literally the same question, when they see the millions of heterosexual romances portrayed in gaming? Why is everything supposed to be directed at only one segment of the audience, given how wide the gaming community as a whole is?

As far as EA goes, I think EA has done way more things that seriously have 'disrespected' the gaming community as a whole than include amputee women in their unrealistic war shooters. EA is stupid and of course they're pandering, in the most stupid way possible, but that is hardly the worst thing they've done to the gaming community.

While I agree with the core of what you're saying, inclusion is a good thing. I don't mind everything not being catered to me, it's not a big deal.

i respect ur civilty. i would rather play a game with no liberal crap and u the other way. i understand

I honestly rather play a game without neither the Alt-Right, nor the SJWs calling it propaganda
You know we have reached a new low when people are offended by Video Games.

[Naedmi]

The problem with the gaming industry is that they'll always get some form of negative backlash no matter what they do to pander to any group of people or not. I can just exist and certain people will hate it.

From what I have seen there is no proof that they came to this decision because of any group asking for more features, but that they made this choice on their own supported by their own marketing team. They tried to add females into Battlefield 1 back before it released, but the team had decided that the core fanbase wouldn't like the idea. Something is telling me now that they don't care either way what the fanbase thinks. An extra gender means twice as many cosmetic items to sell to everyone playing the game. Which equals even more money for them.

[Alpha]

Escrito originalmente por Explosion Hugger:

The problem with the gaming industry is that they'll always get some form of negative backlash no matter what they do to pander to any group of people or not. I can just exist and certain people will hate it.

From what I have seen there is no proof that they came to this decision because of any group asking for more features, but that they made this choice on their own supported by their own marketing team. They tried to add females into Battlefield 1 back before it released, but the team had decided that the core fanbase wouldn't like the idea. Something is telling me now that they don't care either way what the fanbase thinks. An extra gender means twice as many cosmetic items to sell to everyone playing the game. Which equals even more money for them.

I hope that would be the case. That the direction taken is not to fuel the hate and divisiveness exihibited by certain individuals, and is about just making more money by catering to males and females who prefer options in their games, and who may spend more to have an enjoyable experience, but posts like the OP and the large number of videos and posts like it make me think there is something else going on.

[Krav]

Escrito originalmente por Explosion Hugger:

The problem with the gaming industry is that they'll always get some form of negative backlash no matter what they do to pander to any group of people or not. I can just exist and certain people will hate it.

From what I have seen there is no proof that they came to this decision because of any group asking for more features, but that they made this choice on their own supported by their own marketing team. They tried to add females into Battlefield 1 back before it released, but the team had decided that the core fanbase wouldn't like the idea. Something is telling me now that they don't care either way what the fanbase thinks. An extra gender means twice as many cosmetic items to sell to everyone playing the game. Which equals even more money for them.

Yes, and it's sad really that people now have to pander to almost every group of people to avoid backlash. Remember the times when people used to play video games for fun, and fun only without caring about politics?
How far have we fallen.

[Naedmi]

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Yes, and it's sad really that people now have to pander to almost every group of people to avoid backlash. Remember the times when people used to play video games for fun?
How far have we fallen.

Gaming has always been looked down on in the media, even before extremist internet groups existed. My mom was scared into hiding a copy of the Nintendo 64 game 007 from me when I was a child. They were telling everyone on the news that violent games turned children into psychopathic murderers. So it has always been a target in the US and even in a country like Australia.

[Alpha]

Escrito originalmente por Morgan:

Escrito originalmente por Explosion Hugger:

The problem with the gaming industry is that they'll always get some form of negative backlash no matter what they do to pander to any group of people or not. I can just exist and certain people will hate it.

From what I have seen there is no proof that they came to this decision because of any group asking for more features, but that they made this choice on their own supported by their own marketing team. They tried to add females into Battlefield 1 back before it released, but the team had decided that the core fanbase wouldn't like the idea. Something is telling me now that they don't care either way what the fanbase thinks. An extra gender means twice as many cosmetic items to sell to everyone playing the game. Which equals even more money for them.

Yes, and it's sad really that people now have to pander to almost every group of people to avoid backlash. Remember the times when people used to play video games for fun, and fun only without caring about politics?
How far have we fallen.

You try to make out that it's about preventing backlash, as if they care. I remember I think maybe Rainbow Six: Vegas when they included a female option. It was a step in the right direction. Something rising, not falling. Sad pathetic little misogynists are the only ones who would equate it with falling.

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Step 1: Pander to SJW's
Step 2: Cause a controversy with your pandering
Step 3: Controversy gets your game known
Step 4: People buy the game to see the fuss
Step 5: Buy a yacht with the money you just made

[Alpha]

Stop being divided by your corprorate overlords. Wake up and stop being pawns spreading hate and division, being fed that crap from your "feminist fail" and "SJW fail" videos on your algorithmically defined "feeds". Stop eating that crap. They want you divided on gender, social, political, racial, etc. lines. Divide and conquer. They have people posting videos on youtube, threads on forums, individuals on those videos working for that exact agenda, people in those corporations working for that exact agenda. Time to wake up?