Why Are you a Vegan or Vegetarian?

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Alf 26 трав. 2018 о 17:07

I find it silly that vegans say they don't eat meat because they don't want to harm life. However, something must die in order to sustain life. Besides, the earth can not support every living thing and death is the a way to maintain balance and more so since the human population is large and they live longer then they have in the past. If everyone became vegan, there would eventually be no plants left because people would have to eat a lot more to sustain themselves.

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Rumpelcrutchskin 26 трав. 2018 о 21:07

Цитата допису Dormé:
Цитата допису Rumpelcrutchskin:

That's just vegan propaganda, bigger brain needs lot of energy to run and develop, only way you get that kind of energy in primitive setting is meat and bone marrow.
Plus the need to get access to bone marrow and meat lead to use of tools, first just primitive rocks to break the bones to get to the marrow inside, then more advanced tools for actually hunting the prey.
Besides at the time of early human development when we broke off from primates the use of fire for cooking was not even possible because of lack of knowledge how to use fire. You need bigger brain first to learn how to use fire.
Vegan propaganda or science? I don't know. Maybe you don't care to study the facts? How much glucose are you getting from your meat?

"The mammalian brain depends on glucose as its main source of energy. In the adult brain, neurons have the highest energy demand, requiring continuous delivery of glucose from blood. In humans, the brain accounts for ~2% of the body weight, but it consumes ~20% of glucose-derived energy making it the main consumer of glucose (~5.6 mg glucose per 100 g human brain tissue per minute)."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3900881/

"Protein: Includes fish, meat, cheese, and peanut butter [And many plant sources provide protein BTW]. Although our bodies change some of the protein we eat into glucose, most of this glucose is stored in our liver and not released into our bloodstream. Eating protein usually has very little impact on blood sugar."
https://wa.kaiserpermanente.org/healthAndWellness/index.jhtml?item=%2Fcommon%2FhealthAndWellness%2Fconditions%2Fdiabetes%2FglucoseSources.html

First you need to get that development for bigger brain going and it aint gone happen on glucose alone.
What you are talking about are all after-effects when you already have bigger brain, first you need to get that development actually started.
If it were just on glucose alone then all the other primates munching on only plant diet should be bloody Einsteins by now but they are not.
Actually the smartest and closest ones to humans - the chimpanzee are known to eat meat if they can get their hands on it.

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Sandvich 26 трав. 2018 о 21:09

People who stop eating meat for the animals should also stop eating plants. Animals eat plants, so by eating plants, you're eating the food animals need to survive. Without food, animals starve.

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It's Chase 26 трав. 2018 о 21:11

Цитата допису Sandvich:
People who stop eating meat for the animals should also stop eating plants. Animals eat plants, so by eating plants, you're eating the food animals need to survive. Without food, animals starve.

I never really thought about that.

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76109108007942031 26 трав. 2018 о 21:14

Цитата допису Sandvich:
Цитата допису Sir Illic:
They're pretty weak jokes, along the lines of the good ol' "I was only pretending to be stupid".
They're still jokes/trolls, but the OP took them seriously.

So what you're saying is, everyone involved is a failure?

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Sandvich 26 трав. 2018 о 21:15

Цитата допису Sir Illic:
Цитата допису Sandvich:
They're still jokes/trolls, but the OP took them seriously.
So what you're saying is, everyone involved is a failure?

Yes.

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76109108007942031 26 трав. 2018 о 21:15

Цитата допису Sandvich:
Цитата допису Sir Illic:
So what you're saying is, everyone involved is a failure?
Yes.

Gotcha.

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JDumbz 26 трав. 2018 о 21:19

yes

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Rumpelcrutchskin 26 трав. 2018 о 21:23

Цитата допису Dormé:
You are not providing any evidence that meat is what "kickstarted" our evolution. The claim you made and stated as a fact, but is simply an opinion.

Not my opinion or idea, it's the opinion of quite many anthropologists.

Also if you look at it from another angle, herbivores are usually dumb as doornails right from the age of dinosaurs, it doesnt take much intelligence to munch plants.
Carnivores on other hand are much more smarter and intelligent because it takes more intelligence and better sensory organs to hunt prey.

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Rumpelcrutchskin 26 трав. 2018 о 21:30

Цитата допису Dormé:
Цитата допису Rumpelcrutchskin:

Not my opinion or idea, it's the opinion of quite many anthropologists.
Do you believe that our current culture may influence some of their opinions and ideas? The fact that we are a largely meat eating society and civilization and have been for many thousands of years going back to hunter gatherers? And maybe there is the possibility that we were more like Gorillas who found some potatoes and figured out how to light a fire by hitting two rocks together and cooked them?

Seen any other animal besides humans who can make fire or cook food?

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