Why Are you a Vegan or Vegetarian?

[Alf]

I find it silly that vegans say they don't eat meat because they don't want to harm life. However, something must die in order to sustain life. Besides, the earth can not support every living thing and death is the a way to maintain balance and more so since the human population is large and they live longer then they have in the past. If everyone became vegan, there would eventually be no plants left because people would have to eat a lot more to sustain themselves.

[Sporiffy]

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[tiseno100]

Im none of those

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Ill eat him alive to prove it.

[Alf]

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I love duck, come here...

[Forever]

I have been a vegan for 5 years and still am. I eat meat almost everyday too. It's the mindset that matters. Like saying ' no ♥♥♥♥ '

[Esoteric]

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I have been a vegan for 5 years and still am. I eat meat almost everyday too. It's the mindset that matters. Like saying ' no ♥♥♥♥ '

If you eat meat then you're not a vegan.

[Rio]

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I have been a vegan for 5 years and still am. I eat meat almost everyday too. It's the mindset that matters. Like saying ' no ♥♥♥♥ '

If you eat meat then you're not a vegan.

Sure they are. People can declare themselves anything they want.

[saranacX]

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If you eat meat then you're not a vegan.

Sure they are. People can declare themselves anything they want.

A vegan in between meals.

[Mivo]

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Only if you're a total moron! Wow! :claugh::lol:

Here's just one example: It's much easier, and cheaper, to stock up on meats and drop them in the freezer, taking advantage of discounts and offers. Easy to buy in quantities. Fresh fruit and fresh vegetables are substantially more expensive where I live, unless you eat potatoes and apples every day, they don't keep well, and many of them aren't very suitable for freezing (and the stuff in cans and jars is just yuck with little value). Meat is cheap, especially for the nutrition value it offers.

My monthly expenses for food have gone up since I switched to eating more fresh fruit, vegetables and dried fruit (more expensive than candy, but that's an issue just for vegans). I don't regret this, it's worth it to me, but if I want to go full-on vegetarian *and* have variety, my food costs would further increase. (Plus the issue of having to cook differently for one person because the other one will not become a vegetarian, making cost-efficient shopping harder.)

[Rio]

Buy a ton of bananas, peel them when ripe and throw into a freezer bag and freeze.

Bam, banana pops any time

[Choccy]

This thread is still going on? Let it die.

[Alf]

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This thread is still going on? Let it die.

No, you die.

[Mivo]

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You really do have to be a total idiot to think that veganism isn't budget-freindly. If you're dirt poor, it's basically the only diet you can survive on.

That's the thing, I'm not trying to just "survive on" my food. I'm trying to enjoy it. Yeah, if you are dirt poor and you have to eat potatoes every day, I suppose it's cheaper than meat. But if you want diversity, variety, and get the same level of nutrition as you do when you eat meat (with potatoes and vegetables), it is more expensive where I live. I realize that meat is more expensive in the US than it is here, after checking with a friend, so perhaps that's where the disconnect is. Or maybe we just define "proper meals" differently. This isn't about "surviving", it's about a varied, diverse, balanced diet.

[Martin Harris]

They don't eat meat because stuff like this happens:

Chickens are put into small cages with up to 5 in one cage, their beaks get cut off with no anestetic because it costs too much, then they stay in these cages only getting hosed down every few weeks and only feed enough to barely lived, while being pumped with drugs to make them as a big and tasty as possible, then they are put on a belt that bring them to a chopper that cuts their head off, but this commonly missed, which you might think is great because they live, but what happens is that they get dumped into boiling water to defeather the birds and get boiled alive, then you get to enjoy your tasty chicken.

I know all of this and I am not a vegan, I do not believe in ignorance, you need to know what choices you make.

[Martin Harris]

And so we are clear, chickens feel emotional and real pain.

[Rio]

Well aware of all that.