CPU reaching temps of 77 Degrees Celcius!?

[Famix]

Is this normal? Can this damage my system?

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Yea that is kinda hot. Put more fans in your case if you can. Or dust out your pc with canned air. Dust and static are the worst enemies of pc's.

[Famix]

It appears my case fans aren't spinning D:

My CPU and GPU fans are, though

[Famix]

Playing Fallout 4, it's going up to 85 Degrees D:

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Is this while idle? Or while performing some intensive gaming or software? Either way, you can try re-applying thermal compound and/or buy a new cooler, you're probably using a stock cooler.

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Originally posted by Famix the Wizard:

It appears my case fans aren't spinning D:

My CPU and GPU fans are, though

Something blocking them from spinning? Are the plugged into the motherboard or one of your power supplys power cords?

[Arya]

Originally posted by SnakeFist:

Yea that is kinda hot. Put more fans in your case if you can. Or dust out your pc with canned air. Dust and static are the worst enemies of pc's.

I have to correct you on that, sorry.

For most CPUs, somewhere between 60 and 80 Celsius is the ideal temperature range. That's the range that both Intel and AMD CPUs are designed to run at. Anything below that is a bonus.
85 is totally safe, but not really ideal. The PC will be Throwing Heat by that point, and that's not nice to sit next to. If it's getting that hot, then I'd recommend a better CPU Cooler.

PC cooling is handled by the CPU Cooler, rather than the Case Fans. Case Fans blow air into and through the case, but it's the Heatsink and Fan assembly of the CPU Cooler that actually does the hard work. If your PC is running hot, upgrade the CPU cooler. Not only is that cheaper than replacing or adding multiple fans, it'll get you a 10-20 Celsius difference as opposed to 1-2 Celsius.

[Garou]

I max out at 65 celsius but the CPU cooler sounds like a vacuum cleaner

[Arya]

Originally posted by bond james bond 007:

I max out at 65 celsius but the CPU cooler sounds like a vacuum cleaner

Liquid or Air cooler? If it's an Air Cooler, you could probably solve that with more efficient fans. Bolt some Noctua High Static Pressure fans onto it, that should sort it out.

[Garou]

Originally posted by Wolfie:

Originally posted by bond james bond 007:

I max out at 65 celsius but the CPU cooler sounds like a vacuum cleaner

Liquid or Air cooler? If it's an Air Cooler, you could probably solve that with more efficient fans. Bolt some Noctua High Static Pressure fans onto it, that should sort it out.

Air Cooler Master Hyper 212, it's one of the best but it's 4 years old now

[Arya]

Originally posted by bond james bond 007:

Air Cooler Master Hyper 212, it's one of the best but it's 4 years old now

At that age I'd recommend popping it off, carefully cleaning the CPU surface and Contact Plate with Isopropyl Rubbing Alcohol and a Cotton Tip, and then adding fresh Thermal Paste. That should get you at least 5 degrese celsius, maybe more.

Thermal Paste expires after a couple of years and loses some of it's effectiveness. I normally recommend people replace it every 3 years - it's a quick and cheap fix, but it makes a big difference. I did a 3-year change on my older PC last year and picked up 12 degrees. And it also used a 212 EVO.

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Originally posted by Wolfie:

Originally posted by SnakeFist:

Yea that is kinda hot. Put more fans in your case if you can. Or dust out your pc with canned air. Dust and static are the worst enemies of pc's.

I have to correct you on that, sorry.

For most CPUs, somewhere between 60 and 80 Celsius is the ideal temperature range. That's the range that both Intel and AMD CPUs are designed to run at. Anything below that is a bonus.
85 is totally safe, but not really ideal. The PC will be Throwing Heat by that point, and that's not nice to sit next to. If it's getting that hot, then I'd recommend a better CPU Cooler.

PC cooling is handled by the CPU Cooler, rather than the Case Fans. Case Fans blow air into and through the case, but it's the Heatsink and Fan assembly of the CPU Cooler that actually does the hard work. If your PC is running hot, upgrade the CPU cooler. Not only is that cheaper than replacing or adding multiple fans, it'll get you a 10-20 Celsius difference as opposed to 1-2 Celsius.

Well that is kinda hot and not good for his components. That is why i said kinda hot. Granted they run hotter then that. But if his case fans are not spinning it's not getting the heat out and off that heat trapped inside can raise the temps just like an oven.

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Originally posted by Wolfie:

Originally posted by bond james bond 007:

Air Cooler Master Hyper 212, it's one of the best but it's 4 years old now

At that age I'd recommend popping it off, carefully cleaning the CPU surface and Contact Plate with Isopropyl Rubbing Alcohol and a Cotton Tip, and then adding fresh Thermal Paste. That should get you at least 5 degrese celsius, maybe more.

Thermal Paste expires after a couple of years and loses some of it's effectiveness. I normally recommend people replace it every 3 years - it's a quick and cheap fix, but it makes a big difference. I did a 3-year change on my older PC last year and picked up 12 degrees. And it also used a 212 EVO.

Only use a pea size amount of thremal paste. When you put the heatsink on it will spread it out make sure none oozes out on to your motherboard. Also make sure you use 91% isopropyl rubbing alcohol as anything lesser then that can leave water spots. I have seen that happen when using less then 91%. And use name brand q-tips to clean the old paste off the cheap generic ones like to fall apart.

[Arya]

Originally posted by SnakeFist:

Well that is kinda hot and not good for his components. That is why i said kinda hot. Granted they run hotter then that. But if his case fans are not spinning it's not getting the heat out and off that heat trapped inside can raise the temps just like an oven.

I'm sorry, but that just isn't true.

Nvidia and AMD GPUs, Intel and AMD Ryzen CPUs are specifically designed to run at those temperatures. That's the ideal operating range for all of the above, and there's absolutely no risk of damaging or wearing the chip.

Computers aren't made of glass, and people need to realize that. And besides, ALL modern hardware have Thermostats and Emergency Failsafes built in. The CPU won't even allow you to overheat it, it'll automatically shut down long before it reaches a dangerous temperature.

Current-Gen Intels are even more extreme. The i5 and i7 are now TDP 100W CPUs, and can run into the 80s quite comfortably, with Failsafes only kicking in at the low 100s.

So what's the maximum safe temperature? For Intel it's about 99 degree celcius, at which point the CPU will detect an overheat and dramatically scale back power. That's still not enough to cause any damage. To actually damage the CPU you'll need a temperature of 120-ish or higher. Only once you reach the low-mid hundreds will you actually see wear and tear.

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Originally posted by Wolfie:

Originally posted by SnakeFist:

Well that is kinda hot and not good for his components. That is why i said kinda hot. Granted they run hotter then that. But if his case fans are not spinning it's not getting the heat out and off that heat trapped inside can raise the temps just like an oven.

I'm sorry, but that just isn't true.

Nvidia and AMD GPUs, Intel and AMD Ryzen CPUs are specifically designed to run at those temperatures. That's the ideal operating range for all of the above, and there's absolutely no risk of damaging or wearing the chip.

Computers aren't made of glass, and people need to realize that. And besides, ALL modern hardware have Thermostats and Emergency Failsafes built in. The CPU won't even allow you to overheat it, it'll automatically shut down long before it reaches a dangerous temperature.

Current-Gen Intels are even more extreme. The i5 and i7 are now TDP 100W CPUs, and can run into the 80s quite comfortably, with Failsafes only kicking in at the low 100s.

So what's the maximum safe temperature? For Intel it's about 99 degree celcius, at which point the CPU will detect an overheat and dramatically scale back power. That's still not enough to cause any damage. To actually damage the CPU you'll need a temperature of 120-ish or higher. Only once you reach the low-mid hundreds will you actually see wear and tear.

I have some issues with what you're saying. First off, yes, you are right, it'll shut down when it reaches the thermal margin max, BUT you don't want to keep a CPU at 80+ (especially when gaming) for long, as that'll damage the CPU's lifespan and potentially damage a cooler (assuming you're using a stock cooler).

Secondly, I don't know why you'd want ANYTHING above 60 degrees, which is why I keep my CPU at a relatively low temperature point. And as your CPU temp goes up, performance goes down (throttling).

They have the CAPACITY to run at those temperatures and above, but there's no reason as to WHY you'd want to operate at those temperates.

[Famix]

I'm about to just hand this thing to best buy and tell them the motherboard and CPU are overheating, and I suspect the case fans, but my CPU fan might also be a problem.