Do Rocks Have DNA?

[Alex Slater]

Hey all!

I can't help wonder this. Logically if Atoms have a Nucleus, and DNA Strands reside in there, wouldn't it mean all of the Atoms in Rock also have DNA in them?

After all, wouldn't the first Rocks have been Asteroids, NOT Planets?

[iceman1980]

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Molecular machinery. There is a small robot for example that patrols our DNA looking for errors removing them and replacing them. Biochemical machinery is a very interesting subject. The RNA not sure, it probably has something to do with the many different types of ways things can be transported in our cells. There is gates, motors, pumps,whole list of machinery in our cells. mRNA is messenger RNA. But the processes involved are convoluted.

https://sciencing.com/different-types-cellular-communication-7631508.html

https://biologydictionary.net/cell-signaling/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJyUtbn0O5Y

Never thought life would be so interesting huh?

Yeah I know about all that, even seen that video a few times and the associated TED talk, but I still can't get an answer on how the nucleotides are assembled pre-transcription.

That answer is long and complicated. It depends how deep you want to go. If you've ever heard of hydrogen bonding that is pretty much the main underpinning idea. Hydrogen bonds are partially ionic. Because of Hydrogen being so giving of electron very non-electronegative and Oxygen being very electronegative, it causes a bond to form because electrons will be pulled from the hydrogen atom towards the oxygen creating a side to side polarity.

https://www.rsc.org/Education/Teachers/Resources/cfb/nucleicacids.htm

[Bastila Shan]

Even jesus said the rocks would sing out praises if his disciples stopped singing when he rode into Jerusalem on the donkey. So i guess they have souls, dont know about dna though.

[Fajita Jim]

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Yeah I know about all that, even seen that video a few times and the associated TED talk, but I still can't get an answer on how the nucleotides are assembled pre-transcription.

That answer is long and complicated.
https://www.rsc.org/Education/Teachers/Resources/cfb/nucleicacids.htm

Been there, too. That doesn't answer the question, just explains how nucleotides are bonded and the resultant structure.

My real question is: what happens to the RNA polymerase during transcription if the appropriate nucleotide is not 'within reach'? But this is being asked in ignorance of both how the nucleotides are propelled through the cellular medium and the 'grabbing' mechanism of the RNA polymerase.

[iceman1980]

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That answer is long and complicated.
https://www.rsc.org/Education/Teachers/Resources/cfb/nucleicacids.htm

Been there, too. That doesn't answer the question, just explains how nucleotides are bonded and the resultant structure.

My real question is: what happens to the RNA polymerase during transcription if the appropriate nucleotide is not 'within reach'? But this is being asked in ignorance of both how the nucleotides are propelled through the cellular medium and the 'grabbing' mechanism of the RNA polymerase.

A chain of machinery is involved. The thing that holds the shape together is the hydrogen bonds which end up one side negatively charged and the other positively charged.


-O and +H due to oxygen being electron greedy; always wants it's shells filled.

[Fajita Jim]

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Been there, too. That doesn't answer the question, just explains how nucleotides are bonded and the resultant structure.

My real question is: what happens to the RNA polymerase during transcription if the appropriate nucleotide is not 'within reach'? But this is being asked in ignorance of both how the nucleotides are propelled through the cellular medium and the 'grabbing' mechanism of the RNA polymerase.

A chain of machinery is involved.

I'm assuming so, and I'm also assuming this has a direct if complex answer, I just haven't found it. :-(

[iceman1980]

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A chain of machinery is involved.

I'm assuming so, and I'm also assuming this has a direct if complex answer, I just haven't found it. :-(

There is no "direct answer"

[Fajita Jim]

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I'm assuming so, and I'm also assuming this has a direct if complex answer, I just haven't found it. :-(

There is no "direct answer"

Of course there is. Our knowledge may only go so far but the facts are facts even if we don't know them yet.

[iceman1980]

http://lecturer.ukdw.ac.id/dhira/Metabolism/nucleotidesyn.html
Thats how it's synthesized by the body. As you can see no simple direct answer. Requires an understanding of organic chemistry and biology.

[Bastila Shan]

Can you get blood from a stone?

[Fajita Jim]

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http://lecturer.ukdw.ac.id/dhira/Metabolism/nucleotidesyn.html

Carrier Proteins. And there's our answer. Thank you, sir. Now I have a whole class of new proteins to learn. Fun days ahead!

[iceman1980]

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http://lecturer.ukdw.ac.id/dhira/Metabolism/nucleotidesyn.html

Carrier Proteins. And there's our answer. Thank you, sir. Now I have a whole class of new proteins to learn. Fun days ahead!

That isn't a sufficient definition to make use of this knowledge...

[Alex Slater]

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Something I've never been able to figure out: how are the nucleotides propelled through the cellular medium? Like during transcription, how do the nucleotides arrive upon the RNA polymerase in the correct order?

Molecular machinery. There is a small robot for example that patrols our DNA looking for errors removing them and replacing them. Biochemical machinery is a very interesting subject. The RNA not sure, it probably has something to do with the many different types of ways things can be transported in our cells. There is gates, motors, pumps,whole list of machinery in our cells. mRNA is messenger RNA. But the processes involved are convoluted.

https://sciencing.com/different-types-cellular-communication-7631508.html

https://biologydictionary.net/cell-signaling/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJyUtbn0O5Y

Never thought life would be so interesting huh?

That reminds me of this! :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGmLoAdJLKE

But P.S. Who is defining these "Errors"?

[Alex Slater]

I don't like this talk of Microscopic Machinery. This is stupid. It's bad enough that there's sick bastards like Arpeggio out there, trying to make Plane Drones come out of Eggs.

[𝕎𝔸𝕃𝕋𝔼ℝ]

Atom nucleus isn't remotely close to being a cell's nucleus

[DarkCrystalMethod]

There is no DNA only Zuul