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rudkin852 Nov 23, 2019 @ 12:56pm
Was Friedrich Nietzsche a failure?
I mean the philosopher guy not Freddy Nietzsche hot dog salesman.

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Radene Nov 23, 2019 @ 12:56pm 
Nope, why?
Z i o ⚡ Nov 23, 2019 @ 12:58pm 
A failure in what way? What would qualify him as a failure?
Hayter Nov 23, 2019 @ 1:03pm 
ÜBERMENSCH
SMIFFY Nov 23, 2019 @ 1:04pm 
He gets quoted in Baldur's Gate, that's not failure. :D
Azor Nov 23, 2019 @ 1:22pm 
What counts as a failure?
Baosas Nov 23, 2019 @ 1:30pm 
For all of his unhealthy inclinations, he left the world with a sizable legacy, and you could do a lot worse than that.
Commander Makara Nov 23, 2019 @ 1:55pm 
You're not really qualifying any particular criteria.
His work wasextremely influential worldwide even today and arguably that constitutes some level of success in general, global terms.

As with a numebr of great thinkers and polymaths of history, irrespective of prolification, personal, politicial, ideological or circumstantial factors had significant impact on their apparent recognition, confidence and success in certain terms at the time.
abcd Nov 23, 2019 @ 2:15pm 
"What if pleasure and displeasure were so tied together that whoever wanted to have as much as possible of one must also have as much as possible of the other — that whoever wanted to learn to “jubilate up to the heavens” would also have to be prepared for “depression unto death”?

Examine the lives of the best and most fruitful people and peoples and ask yourselves whether a tree that is supposed to grow to a proud height can dispense with bad weather and storms; whether misfortune and external resistance, some kinds of hatred, jealousy, stubbornness, mistrust, hardness, avarice, and violence do not belong among the favourable conditions without which any great growth even of virtue is scarcely possible.

To those human beings who are of any concern to me I wish suffering, desolation, sickness, ill-treatment, indignities — I wish that they should not remain unfamiliar with profound self-contempt, the torture of self-mistrust, the wretchedness of the vanquished: I have no pity for them, because I wish them the only thing that can prove today whether one is worth anything or not — that one endures."

Originally posted by De Botton:
“Because fulfilment is an illusion, the wise must devote themselves to avoiding pain rather than seeking pleasure, living quietly, as Schopenhauer counselled, ‘in a small fireproof room’ — advice that now struck Nietzsche as both timid and untrue, a perverse attempt to dwell, as he was to put it pejoratively several years later, ‘hidden in forests like shy deer.’ Fulfilment was to be reached not by avoiding pain, but by recognising its role as a natural, inevitable step on the way to reaching anything good.”

Overwhelmingly, his greatest adherents are trolls and teenagers. Earnest people who want something good to happen, and who aren't afraid of the cost to themselves in pursuing it. People who, somehow, haven't yet been crushed by life.

I'd say that he succeeded in what he set out to do.
=CrimsoN= Nov 23, 2019 @ 2:18pm 
Considering the fact that anyone whose taken a philosophy 101 course, knows Nietzsche and his works, I definitely wouldn't count that as a failure. He (like many philosophers) intended to have their ideas spread, and in that regard he succeeded.
=CrimsoN= Nov 23, 2019 @ 2:56pm 
Originally posted by THE REAL JOKER™:
probably but it's not like it mattered...

haha! I see what you did there
Depends on what standard you are using to determine failure. I find his philosophical ideas quite interesting, and he was quite prolific until his stroke in his early forties that caused him to lose the majority of his mental faculties.

I would call him a winner in my book.

Starbug Nov 23, 2019 @ 3:47pm 
When all the world was very young
And mountain magic heavy hung
The supermen would walk in file
Guardians of a loveless isle
And gloomy browed with super fear their tragic endless lives. Heaves nor sighs in solemn, perverse serenity, wondrous beings chained to life.

Success :steamhappy:
rudkin852 Nov 23, 2019 @ 4:54pm 
Originally posted by ヤヒャ:
A failure in what way? What would qualify him as a failure?
Your existential definition of success or failure.
76561198247967722 Nov 23, 2019 @ 5:15pm 
He was le based man
Z i o ⚡ Nov 23, 2019 @ 5:22pm 
Originally posted by rudkin852:
Originally posted by ヤヒャ:
A failure in what way? What would qualify him as a failure?
Your existential definition of success or failure.
I think he was success because his ideas and work is known, and he published books. Now you have my opinion.
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