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lparkerzo 2019 年 5 月 14 日 下午 7:24
The Decline of Gaming
There is a subtlety to how things change; whether that change be good or bad is perspective in its entirety. In that I mean that one person's opinion of a game can change from the others. What I want to discuss is what is seemingly a very serious issue that is being pushed to the side by manipulating the way that the gamer thinks. At the heart of all this I want to ask you a question; What has happened to gaming? Quite a simple question really, but I really want to ask yourself: "What has happened to gaming?", now be honest with yourself. Can you really say that games have always stayed the same over the years? "Of course not!" is what one person might say while the other the latter; whatever your answer may, be I warn you about forming an opinion before you read the rest of this; but that is entirely up to you. I want to convey to you right now and propose to you this statement. That statement is in fact that games have changed, and Greatly. I am going to propose something to you, and truthfully this is all a smaller piece to a greater whole; but again were talking about gaming. I want you to think back, what is one of your favorite games of all time? ( Personally, Bioshock, and fallout 3). Now I want you to place those games in your mind as a lense to look upon the games that are coming out in this day and age. I am going to tell you why the gaming as a whole has lost its identity; identity can be a very deep thing. In fact, it should be, it's what gives whatever that thing is "life" and because there is an abundance of this "life" whatever that may be makes it a good experience. So if I say that, oh I don't know, Bioshock- is a great game. I am also saying that what made it a very captivating experience was indeed its identity because the life, the character, the soul (if you will) of the game was very present. I can't explain why it had these things, but I don't want to know because that is what makes it great is the mystery behind it- the atmosphere, the world, the characters. This is the reason that you can take a video game that is completely devoid of life- literally in the video game, for example Metro 2033, and make it come to life through its atmosphere.

I say all this to say this; Gaming is dying my friends. There is no soul, no passion, no character...no... Life in games any more. Answer yourself the reason why but I think I just adequately explained the reason. A games identity is its life, and when we place identity in the hands of beauty- this becomes the height of vanity. That goes for us to- a persons identity is their life, not the way the look. That's part of the reason the world is so messed up right now and everyone is singing in the songs that they don't know who they are any more because they have lost their life. What is this life? That Sir/Ma'am, is God. Call it whatever you want but I hate to tell you that you just don't get it if you say other wise. Nobody seems to understand God (life) because they do not want to accept what they have to be to get God (life). They don't understand what they have to give up. There are people in this world who are going to be close to God (life) and there are people who are going to live in vanity- Far from Him (it). This applies to everything we do- in fact, the world has become a product of a God (life) absent society. This trickles down in to every facet of what is created or made. Including, my friends, video games. I don't want to accept it either people. But nevertheless it is the truth. Games are not what they were and this translates as a whole to humanity. People don't know how to feel "alive" anymore and neither do games. Well no duh! Everything is a product of something else.(sometimes). Mark my words people, we are almost at the end. I don't know how much time- it could be years. But bad video games are the least of our problems.
引用自 Loserman:
引用自 Platinum Angel
I found this post to be super confusing. Why talk about God and keep putting 'life' in parentheses next to it? Why bring up God at all when talking about the identity of video games?
Maybe he should just shift his interests in a different direction, since video games clearly don't seem to cut it anymore (for him). As others have mentioned, maybe it's just him growing older and thus realizing that he lacks a certain something, which these games can't give him anymore.

It's surely more of a question of what happened to him, rather than what happened to gaming.


Nevertheless, i've been enjoying games some... 30... years ago and i still can enjoy them today. Hmm, odd... :steammocking:
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Cyrix 2019 年 5 月 14 日 下午 8:45 
引用自 Cross
...i was saying that both statements where false...if you didn't get that...
I did, but OP thinks gaming is dying. So in OP's POV it's not haha...
WELP, I'M TIRED.

Plus, I don't have time to read all of what he said.
OP you nerd! Where’s the tl;dr???
Cyrix 2019 年 5 月 14 日 下午 10:15 
引用自 Platinum Angel
I found this post to be super confusing. Why talk about God and keep putting 'life' in parentheses next to it? Why bring up God at all when talking about the identity of video games?

I mean, yeah, some games are kinda whatever - soul-less repetition with pretty graphics.

But there are still plenty of awesome games.
What does god have to do with games in general, for the matter of fact? I mean sure, he's in a few, but that doesn't warrant including him in the life of gaming.
gugnihr 2019 年 5 月 15 日 上午 2:28 
Less fantasy and creativity and more greed and arrogance from producers and publishers.

1) More people are playing videogames, of course they wanted to expand their audience but this also mean that games (at least most of them) must be shallow, empty and meaningless, because if something really stand out and is interesting it is probably not going to be accepted by everybody. Somebody will like it a lot but others will be against it and find it unpleasant. Mediocre things can be accepted and consumed by everybody and this is the same thing that happened to movies (and probably to other things too) and this is why it is also happening to videogames: they sell more so they gain more money by doing shallow and dumb things.
Not to mention that shallow and dumb things are also more convenient to create and more convenient because it is easier to control them and the messages they convey.

2) Exclusives. At first they were (ALMOST always) a warranty that a game was of exceptional quality or at least much more interesting than other ones. The whole exclusivity thing is horribly anti consumer, but at the same time it also brought so much quality, excitement and intersting and awesome novelties that it was easy to just dismiss how much anti consumer it was and just enjoy the games that came out of it. Computer programs (and therefore games too) are much more hardware specific than a pictuore or a song, so it was quite obvious that, with all those different hardwares back then and with consoles that could use their hardware in a much more optimized way than standard computers to make more impressive games on cheaper hardware, exclusivity was going to establish like a standard, but today things are a lot different.
Exclusives have nothing that special anymore, but exclusivity is too convenient for the producers and publishers and considering how arrogant and greedy they are there is even more exclusivity today than in the past (Epic store...). Today exclusivity is only anti consumer and nothing else, it does not bring anything good anymore to be worth it for us too (as I said before games are becoming more and more shallow and empty because of the reasons I have already mentioned) but publishers and producers are only interested in exploiting and milking their customers with all sorts of scams and low quality products

3) The online. Online functions in games are just a backdoor for producers and publishers to put invasive and unfair DRM and controls against the consumers.
They can control the way you play the game, they can fill their games with microtransactions, they can make games that will become COMPLETELY UNPLAYABLE and even UNACCESSIBLE AT ALL as soon as they want to move on to something else or even if there are not enough players with that same game willing to play it. This is crazy I buy something and I have to pray that somebody else like it too otherwise I CANNOT PLAY IT. It's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ but unfortunately too many people still accept that and this is why those issues are so serious. Because many people understimate them and are willing to accept them.
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Loserman 2019 年 5 月 15 日 上午 5:12 
引用自 Platinum Angel
I found this post to be super confusing. Why talk about God and keep putting 'life' in parentheses next to it? Why bring up God at all when talking about the identity of video games?
Maybe he should just shift his interests in a different direction, since video games clearly don't seem to cut it anymore (for him). As others have mentioned, maybe it's just him growing older and thus realizing that he lacks a certain something, which these games can't give him anymore.

It's surely more of a question of what happened to him, rather than what happened to gaming.


Nevertheless, i've been enjoying games some... 30... years ago and i still can enjoy them today. Hmm, odd... :steammocking:
lparkerzo 2019 年 5 月 15 日 上午 6:13 
The statement that gaming is dying is not false, what we know that it is changing perhaps you think it is not dying- which i still do. However, the truth still remains that if anything they are changing, you cannot have one thing and not trade for another. We think that graphics and all of these pieces that make a great game are acceptable if they are created with individuality, well the truth is that games used to be able to take the best of each and balance it out to create a wholesome experience. You don't have to agree with me, you can just leave and go somewhere else, there is no changing my mind on this. But I am just telling you the truth, that in fact games are changing, and moreover dying.
Radene 2019 年 5 月 15 日 上午 6:16 
引用自 Fajita Jim
Guys, I don't think the grapples are long enough. Back to the longboats!

Damn, I knew I should have asked our quartermaster for the longer ones...
lparkerzo 2019 年 5 月 15 日 上午 6:18 
引用自 Loserman
引用自 Platinum Angel
I found this post to be super confusing. Why talk about God and keep putting 'life' in parentheses next to it? Why bring up God at all when talking about the identity of video games?
Maybe he should just shift his interests in a different direction, since video games clearly don't seem to cut it anymore (for him). As others have mentioned, maybe it's just him growing older and thus realizing that he lacks a certain something, which these games can't give him anymore.

It's surely more of a question of what happened to him, rather than what happened to gaming.


Nevertheless, i've been enjoying games some... 30... years ago and i still can enjoy them today. Hmm, odd... :steammocking:

I can surely see where this statement has its merit. However, there was a time where I stopped playing video games because I was going through something. Video games were my life. The reason why I am mixing to forces together, God and Gaming is because I am passionate about gaming and about God. It is what God has given me to do, it was you could say- my identity, and I love it but am not guaranteed any satisfaction from it, I understand this. I could say that in fact this could be true, but it just simply isn't. Games are not what they used to be- even in coming back to them.
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Mitz 2019 年 5 月 15 日 上午 6:20 
I've personally just lost the enthusiasm I felt when playing games. I have to force myself to turn on my PC and start a game; it doesn't take long for me to regret doing so. There are still great games out there, but none are for me. Family, work and sleep are all I spend my time on now.
AmsterdamHeavy 2019 年 5 月 15 日 上午 6:22 
Funny, I think those games you listed are "newer" and mediocre.

Gaming in general has become "easy mode by default". Load up an FPS from the 90s for a reminder of how gaming used to be; skill based rather than satisfaction or conclusion based.
lparkerzo 2019 年 5 月 15 日 上午 6:23 
引用自 The Mitzinator
I've personally just lost the enthusiasm I felt when playing games. I have to force myself to turn on my PC and start a game; it doesn't take long for me to regret doing so. There are still great games out there, but none are for me. Family, work and sleep are all I spend my time on now.

This is the feeling I am talking about, lets take for instance my favorite game called Bioshock; if I play this game; I immersed in to the experience. Or, moreover, the purpose of gaming is in essence escapism. This is exactly what it provided for me- The perfect escape. Games do not provide this to me anymore.
lparkerzo 2019 年 5 月 15 日 上午 6:25 
引用自 AmsterdamHeavy
Funny, I think those games you listed are "newer" and mediocre.

Gaming in general has become "easy mode by default". Load up an FPS from the 90s for a reminder of how gaming used to be; skill based rather than satisfaction or conclusion based.
I agree, but I do not know what you are talking about about the games I listed. Are you talking about Bioshock?
Gina 2019 年 5 月 15 日 上午 6:26 
引用自 lparkerzo
引用自 The Mitzinator
I've personally just lost the enthusiasm I felt when playing games. I have to force myself to turn on my PC and start a game; it doesn't take long for me to regret doing so. There are still great games out there, but none are for me. Family, work and sleep are all I spend my time on now.

This is the feeling I am talking about, lets take for instance my favorite game called Bioshock; if I play this game; I immersed in to the experience. Or, moreover, the purpose of gaming is in essence escapism. This is exactly what it provided for me- The perfect escape. Games do not provide this to me anymore.

So since it doesn't provide that experience to you anymore, then games are dying?

And I agree, Bioshock was a great game, and I enjoyed it. But I'm also enjoying Assassins's Creed Origins and Grim Dawn, two of the newer games that I'm playing.
最后由 Gina 编辑于; 2019 年 5 月 15 日 上午 6:26
lparkerzo 2019 年 5 月 15 日 上午 6:28 
引用自 Gina
引用自 lparkerzo

This is the feeling I am talking about, lets take for instance my favorite game called Bioshock; if I play this game; I immersed in to the experience. Or, moreover, the purpose of gaming is in essence escapism. This is exactly what it provided for me- The perfect escape. Games do not provide this to me anymore.

So since it doesn't provide that experience to you anymore, then games are dying?

And I agree, Bioshock was a great game, and I enjoyed it. But I'm also enjoying Assassins's Creed Origins and Grim Dawn, two of the newer games that I'm playing.

You answer that for yourself, My opinion is not changing. Yes they are dying. Dying is a more long or drawn out approach, so games can still be good, yes, however they are not going to get any better.
最后由 lparkerzo 编辑于; 2019 年 5 月 15 日 上午 6:29
AmsterdamHeavy 2019 年 5 月 15 日 上午 6:29 
引用自 lparkerzo
引用自 AmsterdamHeavy
Funny, I think those games you listed are "newer" and mediocre.

Gaming in general has become "easy mode by default". Load up an FPS from the 90s for a reminder of how gaming used to be; skill based rather than satisfaction or conclusion based.
I agree, but I do not know what you are talking about about the games I listed. Are you talking about Bioshock?

Bioshock and F3 both.

I just bought a new port of Blood, released in 1997. That reminded me of how gaming used to be.

Puts Bioshock and these narrative, safe save, medium difficulty = easy mode games to shame in terms of playability and challenge.

Not saying all new games suck, saying that generally they are way easier than ever before and because of that there is far less satisfaction that comes from beating or completing them.

Some modern FPS games, imo anyway, arent much better than a Telltale game as far as game play and challenge.
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