This video basically shows how the gaming industry nickles and dimes you.

[Func_Ladder]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNjI03CGkb4
Yes i know that it's about "mobile games" but these monetization practices are plaguing the industry from star wars to assassin's creed.

Let me show you some of my choice quotes.

Originally posted by theprickonstage:

"Make sure your games are not too skill based."

Originally posted by theprickonstage:

"I made the mistake of making a skill based game."

Originally posted by theprickonstage:

"Most of the spending comes from the high paying guys, the whales and the very best way to get these guys to spend is to get rich competitive guys to fight each other and tell them i'll give you a slight upside if you pay me."

Originally posted by thescreenonstage:

"Make it possible to spend $1000 on in game purchases."

Originally posted by theprickonstage:

"Competitive monetization is good but you can go overboard with it you can get a unbalanced game which if its too clearly pay to win people will stop playing."

Originally posted by theprickonstage:

"Put morality aside for a bit, we can discuss it later."

(BTW i cant find any footage of this morality discussion anywhere so far.)



This is a given but don't attack or harass the guy on stage k?

[Xite >X< 👁️👁 🇦🇺]

If you can't manage money, you shouldn't play games with ingame purchases. To easy to buy on a whim, I just set myself a budget for entertainment and gaming is part of it, it's still well in the black.

[☄️⁧⁧Sneakydude555]

Normies ruined gaming since the 8th gen of consoles were announced...

[Dïngus]

"made the mistake of not skipping 2000-2030"

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

Frankly speaking, anything that's marked free-to-play (and isn't just some clear "play this once through and we can be done" single-player game) makes me suspect of microtransactions, because...if you think about it, where/how are they going to make the money?

Especially if it's an online game of some sort. Those games need servers. Operating servers needs electricity, needs maintenance, needs people to maintain the game code and update with bugfixes and new content, and so forth. Where the hell are they gonna get the money?

Well, duh. Microtransactions.

This means that the game will be intentionally designed to make you feel like you want more and then dangle a thing in front of you for money. They can't actually charge you money to play the core game itself, because then that'd be pay-to-win and would simply turn people off, so essentially the business model involves messing with player's heads in order to get them to want to spend money, often by introducing systems that waste the player's time and/or (under the guise of games of chance) effort, then offer to save time/effort by taking money.

I'd rather just pay once for the full game and not have to worry about this.

[BanOphobia My Struggle]

Originally posted by Tomoko_541:

Normies ruined gaming since the 8th gen of consoles were announced...

When consoles could download crap that was when the nickle and dime flood gates opened for sure.

Black Ops 4 is a good example. They can transform any game after positive reviews to be a MT hellhole.

[JG | Luxe]

I spent $1,200 on Star Wars Game of Heroes in my 1st year.

[Tolkien Book Fan]

Originally posted by jackthegamer161:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNjI03CGkb4
Yes i know that it's about "mobile games" but these monetization practices are plaguing the industry from star wars to assassin's creed.

Originally posted by theprickonstage:

"Most of the spending comes from the high paying guys, the whales and the very best way to get these guys to spend is to get rich competitive guys to fight each other and tell them i'll give you a slight upside if you pay me."

That explains a lot about the structure of the freemium game I play most often. I guess they are funding the rest of us.

[whatamidoing]

Originally posted by Tomoko_541:

Normies ruined gaming since the 8th gen of consoles were announced...

I'd say it was mobile that killed gaming, and to a large extent the internet.

[🍋 Lemonfed 🍋]

there is not a lot of free to play that lived long without games altering micro-transactions and only optional cosmetics and the like.

[Morphic]

Originally posted by whatamidoing:

Originally posted by Tomoko_541:

Normies ruined gaming since the 8th gen of consoles were announced...

I'd say it was mobile that killed gaming, and to a large extent the internet.

Same. Mobile Games became a massive platform that draws in pretty much any and every demographic.... from 4yr olds to Soccer Moms; there's a game for you!(to spend money on!)

IMO, that's how massive MTs came into play; because the Mobile Market became rife with it and pretty much no one batted an eye. Only recently(past ~5 years) did people finally look up and realize how bad MTs had become and how almost every major game has some form of MTs.

To Clarify: I'm not bashing MTs in of themselves because, done right/fair, they can provide consistent income to Devs so they can add more content etc. to a game. However for the most part the general MT practice has gotten out of hand, IMO. This is especially evident with the plethora of Gacha Mobile Games; "here's 50 free gems to get you started and summon a powerful warrior! Did you know? Spend 10 USD and get 500 gems + 1 free ultra rare super hyper summon ticket! Oh you looked at the Tier list to see if any of those things were good and found out you got crap? That's okay, spend 20 USD right now and get 5000 Gems and 10 tickets a Day for a month!"

[Kargor]

Originally posted by Morphic:

Same. Mobile Games became a massive platform that draws in pretty much any and every demographic.... from 4yr olds to Soccer Moms; there's a game for you!(to spend money on!)

Not for me. I guess I'm just too much of a traditional gamer who just buys his games, and doesn't throw coins at it to keep it running.

[Arvaos]

That is mobile gaming.

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it is mobile gaming, but main goal of biggest companies on the market is to turn everything into mobile gaming.

[iceman1980]

Lootboxes / repeated user-spending / other microtransactions. The entire system is clear as day the same manipulation used for slot machines. Same strategies, by separating the cost over a long period of time. Mathematically there is a formula that is used by slot machines basically if you take a person who plays the slot machine it will make you lose more than you win. It achieves this by separating the wins and loses by a large amount of time. So it makes you think you are winning and your brain keeps saying keep going. It simply acts on the same part of the brain associated with pleasure and exploits it.

[lmstearn]

NecroBump: There was a free-to-air screened on this very subject a short while ago. Here's the page [www.abc.net.au] for it.
There is extra confusion for game subscribers when multiple currencies are set by the game for in-game purchases, perhaps triggered by a "accidental" player "change in location". Bound to get worse when the in-game currencies can change- or be subject to other factors such as "devaluation" or "inflation" brought on no doubt by none other than the multi-talented level bosses.
Ultimately, controls on the packing and consumption of these games has to be down to governments. Remember the surgeons general's warning for cigarettes? Took ages for that to happen, despite strong opposition from the tobacco companies. It'll be the same thing here, and probably won't go any further than responsible gambling legislation with the slot machine companies. Still, the tag "This game has a LootBox which can be damaging to your bank balance" might hold appeal for some.
Related links: Legends of the Phoenix and Roblox[www.abc.net.au]