The whole world is 9 missed meals from anarchy.

[Fajita Jim]

What do you think about that statement? Do you think three days of missed meals would lead to a total collapse?

I'm not too worried, I have and can procure from the land, especially this time of year. But are most folks resourceful enough to survive three days of no food provisions?

Obviously this topic assumes that for some reason no one has anything in the fridge or pantry, so we're just going to accept that as factual for this discussion.

[Radene]

Assuming those three days also mean lack of water, then yes, because then it becomes a matter of biological survival.

Contrary to popular belief, humans don't just roll over and die because it'd be convenient for other people, say, the ones "owning" water sources.

[AdahnGorion]

Escrito originalmente por Fajita Jim:

What do you think about that statement? Do you think three days of missed meals would lead to a total collapse?

I'm not too worried, I have and can procure from the land, especially this time of year. But are most folks resourceful enough to survive three days of no food provisions?

Obviously this topic assumes that for some reason no one has anything in the fridge or pantry, so we're just going to accept that as factual for this discussion.

Most people in the world would go into panic "due to their educational/intelligens level" if modern society stopped. But I guess it would solve the overpopulation problem.

[Chance4721]

I have a year supply of food and I have fasted for 3 days with water. Civilization can crumble very quickly when our lives are threatened. I would say that there is a very important message behind this statement. I was lost in the woods for a couple days I did not come out the same.The friends who where with me ended up fighting me over food that we found it sounds crazy but its true. You don't know how strong your survival instincts are, you have no idea what you are capable of until you nearly die.

[Fajita Jim]

Escrito originalmente por Darkie:

Most people in the world would go into panic "due to their educational/intelligens level" if modern society stopped. But I guess it would solve the overpopulation problem.

Overpopulation isn't a problem. We have the resources, the problem is distribution. For instance: there's enough food for everyone in the world to eat two full meals a day. However, almost half of that food is thrown away as waste.

[Fajita Jim]

Escrito originalmente por Chance4721:

I have a year supply of food and I have fasted for 3 days with water. Civilization can crumble very quickly when our lives are threatened. I would say that there is a very important message behind this statement. I was lost in the woods for a couple days I did not come out the same.The friends who where with me ended up fighting me over food that we found it sounds crazy but its true. You don't know how strong your survival instincts are, you have no idea what you are capable of until you nearly die.

I've spent almost two months in the wilds on more than one occasion. If you were fighting for food then you didn't know how to find food. Obviously this will vary with region, but with very few exceptions, most locations you can scrummage something up.

Even if that something is ants and grubs.

[Jonathan Sensei]

Is this the same nonsense as "if the bee dies we die"? Albert Einstein said something about that, i'm just paraphrasing the quote. Human society has always been a blade's edge away from anarchy. You can literally make a laundry list of what could push us over the edge. Don't read too much into it unless you enjoy paranoia twenty-four-seven.

[Fajita Jim]

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Is this the same nonsense as "if the bee dies we die"? Albert Einstein said something about that, i'm just paraphrasing the quote. Human society has always been a blade's edge away from anarchy. You can literally make a laundry list of what could push us over the edge. Don't read too much into it unless you enjoy paranoia twenty-four-seven.

Some people like thought exercises simply because it's an excuse to role play conditions that will likely never be encountered.

Some of us actually enjoy pressing our grey matter.

[Jonathan Sensei]

Escrito originalmente por Fajita Jim:

Escrito originalmente por Coffinmaw:

Is this the same nonsense as "if the bee dies we die"? Albert Einstein said something about that, i'm just paraphrasing the quote. Human society has always been a blade's edge away from anarchy. You can literally make a laundry list of what could push us over the edge. Don't read too much into it unless you enjoy paranoia twenty-four-seven.

Some people like thought exercises simply because it's an excuse to role play conditions that will likely never be encountered.

Some of us actually enjoy pressing our grey matter.

I enjoy thought process that're plausible. As much as kids joke about it, look at Africa. They've had food issues for a long time and society there is still going, somehow. With how much the modern world wastes food, this would be a good thing for society. As I said: there's way too many of these "what if's" out there - they all end the same way - it will never happen or it will and no one will be ready for it.

[Chance4721]

Escrito originalmente por Fajita Jim:

Escrito originalmente por Chance4721:

I have a year supply of food and I have fasted for 3 days with water. Civilization can crumble very quickly when our lives are threatened. I would say that there is a very important message behind this statement. I was lost in the woods for a couple days I did not come out the same.The friends who where with me ended up fighting me over food that we found it sounds crazy but its true. You don't know how strong your survival instincts are, you have no idea what you are capable of until you nearly die.

I've spent almost two months in the wilds on more than one occasion. If you were fighting for food then you didn't know how to find food. Obviously this will vary with region, but with very few exceptions, most locations you can scrummage something up.

Even if that something is ants and grubs.

It was in the winter there wasn't much out there. and you cannot scrummage up as much as you think even eating every bug and plant you find your best chance is hunting but that is difficult without a gun. The food was a rabbit i got it in a dead fall trap.

[pasa]

Anarchy is a way better system than those we have around now.

9 missed meals? How many meals you think got missed in Venezuela in the last few years? And it still has the same system.

[AdahnGorion]

Escrito originalmente por Fajita Jim:

Escrito originalmente por Darkie:

Most people in the world would go into panic "due to their educational/intelligens level" if modern society stopped. But I guess it would solve the overpopulation problem.

Overpopulation isn't a problem. We have the resources, the problem is distribution. For instance: there's enough food for everyone in the world to eat two full meals a day. However, almost half of that food is thrown away as waste.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha......

You think overpopulation is only about food? Most research point to 2billion people being the absolute maximum to keep a balance of ressources (we have ressources that will deplete no matter what as well, with the current usage stuff like oil are gone in 2050 ie.)

I reckon the world population would be best around 0.5-1 billion people. That is if we want a proper balance and a healthy planet.

To list a few of the problems in a easier way.

Exhaustion of natural resources
Environmental degradation

All in all.. economic, environmental and social terms are at risk.
But well.. don't worry.. we will die soon enough anyway.. Because sickness and death awaits us all in the end, no matter the reason

[Fajita Jim]

Escrito originalmente por Coffinmaw:

I enjoy thought process that're plausible. As much as kids joke about it, look at Africa. They've had food issues for a long time and society there is still going, somehow. With how much the modern world wastes food, this would be a good thing for society. As I said: there's way too many of these "what if's" out there - they all end the same way - it will never happen or it will and no one will be ready for it.

Considering the position of the Doomsday Clock, I would never say never.

Now, I'm not a paranoid schizophrenic anarchist who expects to be nuked to oblivion any day now, but the possibility for a nuclear exchange does exist.

Everyday life is often mundane. It's nice to just explore other possibilities, regardless of how remote.

[Jonathan Sensei]

Escrito originalmente por Fajita Jim:

Escrito originalmente por Coffinmaw:

I enjoy thought process that're plausible. As much as kids joke about it, look at Africa. They've had food issues for a long time and society there is still going, somehow. With how much the modern world wastes food, this would be a good thing for society. As I said: there's way too many of these "what if's" out there - they all end the same way - it will never happen or it will and no one will be ready for it.

Considering the position of the Atomic Clock, I would never say never.

Now, I'm not a paranoid schizophrenic anarchist who expects to be nuked to oblivion any day now, but the possibility for a nuclear exchange does exist.

Everyday life is often mundane. It's nice to just explore other possibilities, regardless of how remote.

Alright, so how about what the late, great, Stephen Hawking once said?

To him, society will end due to greed and stupidity.

[Fajita Jim]

Escrito originalmente por Darkie:

Escrito originalmente por Fajita Jim:

Overpopulation isn't a problem. We have the resources, the problem is distribution. For instance: there's enough food for everyone in the world to eat two full meals a day. However, almost half of that food is thrown away as waste.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha......

You think overpopulation is only about food? Most research point to 2billion people being the absolute maximum to keep a balance of ressources (we have ressources that will deplete no matter what as well, with the current usage stuff like oil are gone in 2050 ie.)

I reckon the world population would be best around 0.5-1 billion people. That is if we want a proper balance and a healthy planet.

To list a few of the problems in a easier way.

Exhaustion of natural resources
Environmental degradation

All in all.. economic, environmental and social terms are at risk.
But well.. don't worry.. we will die soon enough anyway.. Because sickness and death awaits us all in the end, no matter the reason

The problems you list are methodical problems, not problems of overpopulation.

The resources we are closest to running out of are things like Hydrogen, Helium, Phosphorus...there are real shortages there. And while our modern technology relies in part on these, there are alternative technologies.

Food, water, wood...the essentials, are abundant. They're just not equally distributed.

[Fajita Jim]

Escrito originalmente por Coffinmaw:

Alright, so how about what the late, great, Stephen Hawking once said?

To him, society will end due to greed and stupidity.

I can see society collapsing due to inequality and stupidity, sure. It won't lead to extinction but I can certainly see the political reality.