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Fox Force Jul 31, 2019 @ 6:40am
The fight between the german youtubers KuchenTV and HandOfBlood
Hello guys, Im watching a lot of Youtube, and a while back, 2 big german youtubers, KuchenTV (790 000 subs) and HandOfBlood (1 600 000 subs) got into a fight which lasts still to this day. This was weird for me, because I was watching both at the time, and it never happened to me that 2 guys that I like got into a fight.

So, who are these 2 guys?

KuchenTV is a comedy critic who criticises youtubers/events/actions. He does that with a unique dark sense of humour and he got into trouble for that a few times. He hates violence and always tries to resolve everything with talking.

HandOfBlood is a gamer who plays all sorts of games. I was watching him for his League of Legends videos, which are awesome and funny. He, same as KuchenTV, is a big supporter of free speech. He made a video about the importence of critigue and free speech (I never saw it) which was huge and really well received by his community.

So, what happened?

HandOfBlood made a LoL podcast where they talked about recent games and players. And he had a girl in the podcast, which gave the impresion, that she doesnt know anything about the game and doesnt care. She had difficulty reading the names and was boring. KuchenTV made a video about it, and said that she had no idea what she was talking about and that she shouldnt have been in the podcast. After seeing the video, HandOfBlood send a message to KuchenTV, in which he told him, to delete the video and apologise to her, or else he will be reported for verbal abuse. Wait, what? isnt HandOfBlood a supporter of free speech and critique? KuchenTV didnt delete the video, instead asked him to come into a livestream and talk about it. And what does HOB do? Blocks him on Twitter and keeps posting tweets againts him, making his community hate him. He also tells people to avoid and dont talk to KuchenTV. KuchentTV made a video, where he asked him again to come into a livestream and talk about things, which HOB just ignored. A friend of KuchenTV once spoke to HOB, about an event called The Livestream Day. HOB said, that he wont participate in it, because every idiot participates in it. Funny thing, that he was participating in it, because he wanted to ,,test it out´´ The friend asked him what made him special that he can test it out but everyone else was an idiot? In which HOB blocked him and told his community, that he waisted his time talking to this KuchenTV fankiddy. Free speech and critique my ♥♥♥. And that point, I started to hate HOB. What a lying bastard, ,,supporter of free speech and critique´´. Worst thing is, that HOB is on the good side of Youtube. Something like Alinity on Twitch, he can do most things without the fear of getting a strike. What also pisses me off, is that other big Youtubers ignore this and still support and make videos with HOB. The second largest german Youtube gaming channel, Pietsmiet (2 300 000 subs) makes sometimes videos with him.

I may sound very one sided, but on side, we have a guy trying to solve this with words, and on the other we have this guy blocking people which he doesnt like and pretending to be the biggest supporter of free speech. HOB still to this day, hasnt made any video about this, but tons of KuchenTV is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ tweets on Twitter.

EDIT1: grammatical mistakes
Last edited by Fox Force; Jul 31, 2019 @ 7:02am
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Radene Jul 31, 2019 @ 6:49am 
YouTubers. Really, did you expect them to behave like a normal person?
Radene Jul 31, 2019 @ 6:51am 
Originally posted by Legend1466:
Originally posted by Radene:
YouTubers. Really, did you expect them to behave like a normal person?

And that YouTubers are just on same level as gamers when hating things

Worse, because they have an audience reinforcing their behavior.
Fox Force Jul 31, 2019 @ 6:58am 
Originally posted by Radene:
YouTubers. Really, did you expect them to behave like a normal person?
Yes I did. Is that wrong?
secuda Jul 31, 2019 @ 7:01am 
Eh youtuber fight is something i can live without.
Just two egos boosting each other.
Fox Force Jul 31, 2019 @ 7:04am 
Originally posted by Legend1466:
Originally posted by secuda:
Eh youtuber fight is something i can live without.
Just two egos boosting each other.

As a German, I really didn't like both these YouTubers. I simply have no interest in them
It was the opposite for me, I liked them both. Now I hate one and love the other, guess who?
Slumdog Jul 31, 2019 @ 7:10am 
I get that HOB is appearing hypocritical and all, but this Kuchen dude needs to mind his own business imo.
Fox Force Jul 31, 2019 @ 7:13am 
Originally posted by Slumdog:
I get that HOB is appearing hypocritical and all, but this Kuchen dude needs to mind his own business imo.
No he doesnt. We need people to point out other people´s mistakes. If we dont do that, they will continue with it. And if you feel like youre not doing a mistake, just say why you think youre right. DONT BLOCK people you dont agree with.
Radene Jul 31, 2019 @ 7:15am 
Originally posted by Underling Linda:
Originally posted by Radene:
YouTubers. Really, did you expect them to behave like a normal person?
Yes I did. Is that wrong?

No, just foolish and naive.
Fox Force Jul 31, 2019 @ 7:16am 
Originally posted by Radene:
Originally posted by Underling Linda:
Yes I did. Is that wrong?

No, just foolish and naive.
I know that a big part of Youtube is trash, but I expected the people that I know for a long time to behave normal and not like ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. If they behave like ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, I wouldnt watch them in the first place.
Fox Force Jul 31, 2019 @ 7:21am 
Originally posted by Volvo Fanboi:
Gamer grills will be the cause of the next world war.

Don't know who any of these people are but story sounds legit.
I once saw a video about youtubers around the world and liked it. So I though I tell the world a bit about the german youtube scene. The story is legit, if you search KuchenTV HandOfBlood you get a few videos, but in german.
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