Can players get banned for finding out exploits in online games ?

[𝓛𝓪𝓽𝓽𝓮]

Like good hiding spots or ways to bypass some bugs, or whatsoever...
In some games, some players got banned for that, but no ideea if they had cheats too or just normal innofensive ways, for their personal gain.
Excluding that spamming in r6s in summer, where several players got banned cuz they kept spamming to win a match and ...or something like this.
And if is illegal to use game exploits for your winning some matches or bypass some bugs, why are they illegal, cuz those players should be rewarded for finding them and devs admit that was their mistake, just a guess.
Some other eploits were in cs go with see-through some doors, like some legal wh, or in mmorpg's where you can reach certain hidden places, in battlefield games where you go outside map for a short time and killstreak, then manage to return in map, shortcuts in racing games, and so on.

[Lightforce]

You only get banned when you knowingly use a exploit in a online game to get a advantage.
If you find out a exploit and report this and never use the exploit again, so long the exploit stays in the game, than you should not get banned.

[Braed]

hell no. it's the dev's responsibility to make sure there are no exploitables in the game anyways. punishing someone for it instead of patching it asap is really stupid. in a tournament scenario tho, sure since real money is at stake and i'm sure they have rules in place of how much they can exploit the meta e.g. csgo boosts

[Lightforce]

Braed の投稿を引用：

hell no. it's the dev's responsibility to make sure there are no exploitables in the game anyways. punishing someone for it instead of patching it asap is really stupid. in a tournament scenario tho, sure since real money is at stake and i'm sure they have rules in place of how much they can exploit the meta e.g. csgo boosts

If the software company inform the players about a exploit or the exploit is well known in a online game and you use the exploit to get a advantage, than you could get banned.
Mostly, the devs. fix those exploits real quick.

[Magma Dragoon]

Bad game makers like Bethesda and Blizzard will ban people for reporting exploits. Because if you know it exists you must have done it.

Banning people for playing the game in an unexpected way that nets some benefit the designer didn't think of is infantile and irresponsible, it's shirking the responsibility for having created something flawed. If there is a collision box misalignment on a map that allows a player to leave the map and rack up kill with impunity, fix the map!

[Braed]

Lightforce の投稿を引用：

Braed の投稿を引用：

hell no. it's the dev's responsibility to make sure there are no exploitables in the game anyways. punishing someone for it instead of patching it asap is really stupid. in a tournament scenario tho, sure since real money is at stake and i'm sure they have rules in place of how much they can exploit the meta e.g. csgo boosts

If the software company inform the players about a exploit or the exploit is well known in a online game and you use the exploit to get a advantage, than you could get banned.
Mostly, the devs. fix those exploits real quick.

I guess it depends on how bad the exploit is especially if real money is involved. i'm basing this opinion on Bethesda's reaction on F76

[Lightforce]

Magma Dragoon の投稿を引用：

Bad game makers like Bethesda and Blizzard will ban people for reporting exploits. Because if you know it exists you must have done it.

Banning people for playing the game in an unexpected way that nets some benefit the designer didn't think of is infantile and irresponsible, it's shirking the responsibility for having created something flawed. If there is a collision box misalignment on a map that allows a player to leave the map and rack up kill with impunity, fix the map!

A player should never get banned when he report a exploit, that he used one time. I agree, that this would be a bad game company, if they ban a player, that help to fix the issue.

[Your_White_Knight]

Yamcha の投稿を引用：

Can players get banned for finding out exploits in online games ?

Like good hiding spots or ways to bypass some bugs, or whatsoever...
In some games, some players got banned for that, but no ideea if they had cheats too or just normal innofensive ways, for their personal gain.
Excluding that spamming in r6s in summer, where several players got banned cuz they kept spamming to win a match and ...or something like this.
And if is illegal to use game exploits for your winning some matches or bypass some bugs, why are they illegal, cuz those players should be rewarded for finding them and devs admit that was their mistake, just a guess.
Some other eploits were in cs go with see-through some doors, like some legal wh, or in mmorpg's where you can reach certain hidden places, in battlefield games where you go outside map for a short time and killstreak, then manage to return in map, shortcuts in racing games, and so on.

Finding out? No.... using and abusing? Yes... and rightly so. Basically like already said:

Lightforce の投稿を引用：

You only get banned when you knowingly use a exploit in a online game to get a advantage.
If you find out a exploit and report this and never use the exploit again, so long the exploit stays in the game, than you should not get banned.

[BossGalaga]

Lightforce の投稿を引用：

You only get banned when you knowingly use a exploit in a online game to get a advantage.
If you find out a exploit and report this and never use the exploit again, so long the exploit stays in the game, than you should not get banned.

Braed の投稿を引用：

hell no. it's the dev's responsibility to make sure there are no exploitables in the game anyways. punishing someone for it instead of patching it asap is really stupid. in a tournament scenario tho, sure since real money is at stake and i'm sure they have rules in place of how much they can exploit the meta e.g. csgo boosts

No, that's not how it works. Developers decide the punishments. And Braed's suggestion that it's the developer's responsibility to not let him exploit the game is silly. If you're doing something wrong, especially knowingly, then don't be surprised if you get punished for it and good luck trying to use "it's your fault" as an excuse.

[𝓛𝓪𝓽𝓽𝓮]

I consider it like this:
1-Is in game===ok.
2- is just casual, no problem, form my pov.
3-even in real life tournaments someone allways spam in fighting games so....
4-devs should fix those exploits if they are spotted, not to hunt down those that use them and ban them.
5-If that's the situation, then no wonder that online gaming goes way down time by time, mostly cuz of microtransactions.
And also no sane person would affirm their discoveries on some exploits, if they know that they get banned lol, when devs can fix things with patches.

Edit on 3: real life tournament,,, like esport tournaments, where players go there and compete for cash prize....for those that don't know, no offense to anyone ;)
Edit 2: for the record, i don't use any exploit in online games xD

[Alliesaurus]

Зачем стараться изо всех сил играть в игру таким образом, кроме как получить преимущество над другими игроками? Я бы запретил вам, если бы я был администратором сервера в какой бы игре это ни было!

[talemore]

As long you not caught using the exploit. You can report about the exploit to the releaser of the game, doesn't change anything if you do it self. It's seen as an act of violation. Can't make exceptions to cheaters who admit cheating.

[𝓛𝓪𝓽𝓽𝓮]

talemore の投稿を引用：

As long you not caught using the exploit. You can report about the exploit to the releaser of the game, doesn't change anything if you do it self. It's seen as an act of violation. Can't make exceptions to cheaters who admit cheating.

Ok, gotta report to devs that i can hit enemies with car or jump from chopper and let the chopper destroy enemy tank xD

[Braed]

BossGalaga の投稿を引用：

Lightforce の投稿を引用：

You only get banned when you knowingly use a exploit in a online game to get a advantage.
If you find out a exploit and report this and never use the exploit again, so long the exploit stays in the game, than you should not get banned.

Braed の投稿を引用：

hell no. it's the dev's responsibility to make sure there are no exploitables in the game anyways. punishing someone for it instead of patching it asap is really stupid. in a tournament scenario tho, sure since real money is at stake and i'm sure they have rules in place of how much they can exploit the meta e.g. csgo boosts

No, that's not how it works. Developers decide the punishments. And Braed's suggestion that it's the developer's responsibility to not let him exploit the game is silly. If you're doing something wrong, especially knowingly, then don't be surprised if you get punished for it and good luck trying to use "it's your fault" as an excuse.

well, we're just gonna let lazy devs put a warning sign instead of fixing their own damn game?

[BossGalaga]

Braed の投稿を引用：

BossGalaga の投稿を引用：

No, that's not how it works. Developers decide the punishments. And Braed's suggestion that it's the developer's responsibility to not let him exploit the game is silly. If you're doing something wrong, especially knowingly, then don't be surprised if you get punished for it and good luck trying to use "it's your fault" as an excuse.

well, we're just gonna let lazy devs put a warning sign instead of fixing their own damn game?

And you're just going to excuse exploiting online games "cuz not my fault?" You know what happens if you try to use that excuse in the real world bud, for example in relation to banking, stocks, etc.? You get charged with financial fraud/crimes, have to pay massive fines and you go to prison. And "well it's not my fault u didn't fix it hurr durr!" isn't a legal defense. Similarly, game developers have no obligation to let people maliciously exploit their games without punishment.

If you think you can get away with something then hey, you go right on ahead but don't come to the forum expecting sympathy and a shoulder to cry on when the hammer comes down. You're a big boy, you make your own choices.

[Braed]

BossGalaga の投稿を引用：

Braed の投稿を引用：

well, we're just gonna let lazy devs put a warning sign instead of fixing their own damn game?

And you're just going to excuse exploiting online games "cuz not my fault?" You know what happens if you try to use that excuse in the real world bud, for example in relation to banking, stocks, etc.? You get charged with financial fraud/crimes, have to pay massive fines and you go to prison. And "well it's not my fault u didn't fix it hurr durr!" isn't a legal defense. Similarly, game developers have no obligation to let people maliciously exploit their games without punishment.

If you think you can get away with something then hey, you go right on ahead but don't come to the forum expecting sympathy and a shoulder to cry on when the hammer comes down. You're a big boy, you make your own choices.

I get what you are trying to say but jesus we're talking about video games here and their tendency to be exploited because of some bugs that should not exist in the first place. some devs just whip off the ban hammer and don't even bother fixing the game. many games and today just outright fully release even if it's obviously unfinished and broken. i've mentioned previously that if money is involved then it's justifiable to get the ban but let's just ignore that I said that.

if a player is caught exploiting, let's say, glitching to an impassable spot in order spawncamp the enemy and level up faster. he gets a ban? surely rolling back his progress to a previous point makes much more sense then downright exiling him because he did something that's not supposed to be possible.

if it's a known exploit and the devs are actively working on it, sure, do whatever they want with that player. if devs make it clear that exploits should be reported privately and maybe even reward the one who discovered it in some way then more people would gladly report what they've found