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Dweller Dark 2019 年 11 月 8 日 下午 8:48
So, YouTube banned a whole bunch of people's accounts for spamming emojis in one of Markiplier's livestreams......
Thoughts?


Markiplier was having his fans vote on stuff in the livestream by putting either red or green emojis in chat, and YouTube banned/deleted some of their accounts. One guy appealed his and won, then was banned again within 30 MINUTES for no reason. Also, YouTube tweeted there was nothing they could do about it.

If I need to, I'll link Markiplier's response video
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Dweller Dark 2019 年 11 月 8 日 下午 9:42 
引用自 Mattmoo
引用自 ErickaUnlimited

Why would anyone care is all that comes to mind.
There’s a lot of reasons someone might care.

Personally though, first I have to ask were they spamming all those emojis?

Markiplier was asking fans to vote on choices in a game or something by commenting green hearts or a red thing that looked like a Mario hat, and people started getting banned. Including people who pay for the membership stuff. I don't doubt that there was spam in the chat, but some of these people are dedicated fans of his.
Dweller Dark 2019 年 11 月 8 日 下午 9:44 
Here's his video about what happened, if anyone's interested in watching it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWaz7ofl5wQ
AWAWA Liz 2019 年 11 月 8 日 下午 9:51 
You know, ever since YouTube attached itself to Google like a festering tumor everyone griped and moaned about it. And now, this is the "Achilles's heel". This means no one can access their emails or chat messages, emails like from work which are IMPORTANT. I guess it is harsh now that you're saying that not only are YouTube accounts banned but also Google accounts are locked down with them. This is... really bad. Like, REALLY REALLY bad!
Jazz 2019 年 11 月 8 日 下午 9:51 
YouTube is becoming more and more of a trash heap, so I can't say I'm surprised
Dweller Dark 2019 年 11 月 8 日 下午 9:55 
引用自 l1z4rdbr34th
You know, ever since YouTube attached itself to Google like a festering tumor everyone griped and moaned about it. And now, this is the "Achilles's heel". This means no one can access their emails or chat messages, emails like from work which are IMPORTANT. I guess it is harsh now that you're saying that not only are YouTube accounts banned but also Google accounts are locked down with them. This is... really bad. Like, REALLY REALLY bad!

EXACTLY. I have an email from my late mom on my Gmail account that's tied to my phone, and if my Google account got banned, I would lose that. Along with anything tied to Google, like Google Play and the apps owned by Google.
Dweller Dark 2019 年 11 月 8 日 下午 9:56 
引用自 Jazz
YouTube is becoming more and more of a trash heap, so I can't say I'm surprised

With no reason to improve, YouTube will continue to be that way, unfortunately.
Dweller Dark 2019 年 11 月 8 日 下午 10:06 
引用自 Annabel Lee
It’s a business.. and by accepting the terms & conditions don’t people in turn accept their content (and even personal files apparently) are not their own but rather, Google’s?

Yes, but these people are getting accounts banned whether they broke any rules or not. One guy got his account banned, appealed it and won, then it was banned again 30 minutes later. People are paying YouTube for a membership, and even those people have gotten banned too.

Part of the reason is YouTube's automated stuff and their staff basically saying "there's nothing we can do" when that's absolutely not the case.
secuda 2019 年 11 月 8 日 下午 10:09 
Heh? if some one got banned from yt, then it must have been a very good reason.
最后由 secuda 编辑于; 2019 年 11 月 8 日 下午 10:13
Dweller Dark 2019 年 11 月 8 日 下午 10:13 
引用自 secuda
Heh? Dont really care but if you got banned from yt then it must have been a very good reason.

I wasn't watching the livestream and neither did I get banned off YT, I just happened to see the video in my notifications and watched it. And I thought it was important and interesting to talk about, given the severity of that situation. I come across some videos like that from time to time of his, like his theory on the massive YouTube crash from last year (believed to have been caused by the removal of Google Plus).
Exiled Alchemist 2019 年 11 月 8 日 下午 10:15 
Good, spamming shouldn't be allowed at all. Doesn't matter who the person is, or the reason why they think it's a good idea to allow such bad behavior to take place. It's the reason I stopped looking at live stream chats because the pointless emote spam is annoying.

As for running a vote he could have just made a strawpoll, and not have gotten people banned for spamming. So in away it really was his own fault. Hopefully he learns the lesson for the next time he wants to hold a vote/poll for the future.
引用自 DavealiciousChode
引用自 Mattmoo
There’s a lot of reasons someone might care.

Personally though, first I have to ask were they spamming all those emojis?

Markiplier was asking fans to vote on choices in a game or something by commenting green hearts or a red thing that looked like a Mario hat, and people started getting banned. Including people who pay for the membership stuff. I don't doubt that there was spam in the chat, but some of these people are dedicated fans of his.
Well since he asked them to do it and got them banned maybe he should refund the people who paid a membership fee. After all he got the money.
Dweller Dark 2019 年 11 月 8 日 下午 10:22 
引用自 ExiledAlchemist
Good, spamming shouldn't be allowed at all. Doesn't matter who the person is, or the reason why they think it's a good idea to allow such bad behavior to take place. It's the reason I stopped looking at live stream chats because the pointless emote spam is annoying.

As for running a vote he could have just made a strawpoll, and not have gotten people banned for spamming. So in away it really was his own fault. Hopefully he learns the lesson for the next time he wants to hold a vote/poll for the future.


I agree with it partially being his fault and that spamming is bad, but I looked at the community guidelines for YouTube about spam and it doesn't directly state anything about emoji spam, so those people were banned by YouTube's software for something not technically against the rules and denied appeals by the people overseeing the software. People get strikes on anime reaction videos all the time because of the software, even when the reactor obeys the rules of YouTube.
Exiled Alchemist 2019 年 11 月 8 日 下午 10:36 
引用自 DavealiciousChode
I agree with it partially being his fault and that spamming is bad, but I looked at the community guidelines for YouTube about spam and it doesn't directly state anything about emoji spam, so those people were banned by YouTube's software for something not technically against the rules and denied appeals by the people overseeing the software. People get strikes on anime reaction videos all the time because of the software, even when the reactor obeys the rules of YouTube.

It technically falls under comment spam, and repetitive comments. Even if it doesn't say so in the rules it's still implied. Thus the reason they got flagged, and banned by the bot.

As for the used analogy the reason those videos still get strikes is because the user didn't mute the copyrighted audio. The bot can pick up on these things even if the user thinks it's low enough to not be heard.
Dweller Dark 2019 年 11 月 8 日 下午 10:38 
引用自 ExiledAlchemist
引用自 DavealiciousChode
I agree with it partially being his fault and that spamming is bad, but I looked at the community guidelines for YouTube about spam and it doesn't directly state anything about emoji spam, so those people were banned by YouTube's software for something not technically against the rules and denied appeals by the people overseeing the software. People get strikes on anime reaction videos all the time because of the software, even when the reactor obeys the rules of YouTube.

It technically falls under comment spam, and repetitive comments. Even if it doesn't say so in the rules it's still implied. Thus the reason they got flagged, and banned by the bot.

As for the used analogy the reason those videos still get strikes is because the user didn't mute the copyrighted audio. The bot can pick up on these things even if the user thinks it's low enough to not be heard.

So, you'd have to mute the whole video just to be able to post it? Because technically, all the anime audio belongs to the studio/artist, right?
Exiled Alchemist 2019 年 11 月 8 日 下午 10:50 
引用自 DavealiciousChode
So, you'd have to mute the whole video just to be able to post it? Because technically, all the anime audio belongs to the studio/artist, right?

Correct, but you can split the audio mix in the recording software. If done right you can have it only record audio from the mic, and not the audio from whatever is being watched. Using the right headphones, and mic sound filter can help prevent audio feedback. Thus leaving only the video makers voice to be heard in the recording.

You can test this easily by using something as simple as audacity for a test record. You can be silent, and see if the mic picks up any audio from the headphones that are being used. Then you can make adjustment as needed. Lower the headphone volume, and/or sit away from the mic to prevent the audio form being picked up. Once you see no audio vibrations in audacity it should be good to go.
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