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its ultra lame
I've never has a Bhuddist get all in my face that I love steak. They're polite and just want some vegan options if we eat out.
What I find is that WHITE PEOPLE love to get all uppity about veganism to people who aren't vegans.
What most people dont understand is that being an actual vegan is not 'natural' given that its nearly impossible to get all your essential amino acids/vitamins/etc without the mega industrial complex of food distribution that allows you to get the foods you need to fullfill your nutrition needs.
Its also hilarious when vegans get uppity to me about meat, then have like 3 dogs/cats. Hey kiddo, you do realize that your pets consume more meat and contribute more to climate change than I do right?
Cats are obligate carnivores, they cannot survive on a vegan diet. They need meat.
Well done vegans.
https://metro.co.uk/2019/08/23/vegan-mum-left-baby-severely-malnourished-meat-free-diet-spared-jail-10617559/
Veganism is nothing more than a crappy religion, and you need alot of faith to trust in such an indoctrination.
Humans have canine teeth for a reason, because its been proven beyond any question of a doubt we humans are Omnivores.
Period.
Scientific evidence is very clear in this area.
Only a devout Vegan will disagree, not an open minded person of science.
Speaking of science, which shows that literally BILLIONS of insects are murdered every years growing crops, but apparently only cute animals are cared for.......
Some foods like soy are of no real food value, the vegan diet is the same diet Hitler was on, there is still debate about how that effected his brain...........and we all know what he did in history.......
On science sites around the world we find article's like this,
https://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-08/why-vegan-diets-suck/
1. Vegans are deficient in many important nutrients.
Humans are omnivores. We function best eating both animals and plants.
There are some nutrients that can only be gotten from plants (like Vitamin C) and others that can only be gotten from animals.
Vitamin B12 is a water soluble vitamin that is involved in the function of every cell in the body.
It is particularly important in the formation of blood and the function of the brain.
Because B12 is critical for life and isn't found in any amount in plants (except some types of algae), it is by far the most important nutrient that vegans must be concerned with.
In fact, B12 deficiency is very common in vegans, one study showing that a whopping 92% of vegans are deficient in this critical nutrient (1).
But B12 is just the tip of the iceberg… there are other lesser known nutrients that are only found in animal foods and are critical for optimal function of the body.
Here are a few examples:
Animal protein contains all the essential amino acids in the right ratios. It is important for muscle mass and bone health, to name a few. Vegans don't get any animal protein, which can have negative effects on body composition (2, 3, 4, 5).
Creatine helps form an energy reservoir in cells. Studies show that vegetarians are deficient in creatine, which has harmful effects on muscle and brain function (6, 7, 8).
Carnosine is protective against various degenerative processes in the body and may protect against aging. It is found only in animal foods (9, 10, 11).
Docosahexaenoic Acid (DHA) is the most active form of Omega-3 fatty acids in the body and primarily found in animal foods. The plant form of Omega-3s, ALA, is inefficiently converted to DHA in the body (12, 13, 14).
Two other nutrients that have been demonized by vegan proponents are saturated fat and cholesterol.
Cholesterol is a crucial molecule in the body and is part of every cell membrane. It is also used to make steroid hormones like testosterone. Studies show that saturated fat intake correlates with increased testosterone levels (15).
Not surprisingly, vegans and vegetarians have much lower testosterone levels than meat eaters (16, 17, 18, 19).
Bottom line: Vegans are deficient in many important nutrients, including Vitamin B12 and Creatine. Studies show that vegans have much lower testosterone levels than their meat-eating counterparts.
And again , only a narrow minded Vegan will really oppose that, becasue of there politically bias agenda of pushing their beliefs onto you, by attempting to make you feel shame for eating an animal, meanwhile billions of insects die and our oceans polluted with pesticides, yea real moral high ground that one ay.....................
A few sports athletes have tried going full fruit, or and full vegetables. In many of the cases it has resulted in a lower muscle density, more fatigue, etc. The problem with extremes are that they often have hefty downsides. Personally I try to eat very balanced, I don't mass eat meat (I often eat fish and then white meat like chicken) and then combine with various other stuff.
The good thing is, that if you are a normal human, in a 1st world country, you could live almost like you want to due to the fact we have so many supplements! If we go back in time, then it would become harder to live like that (due to the fact you could not just import or get whatever you want) that is what people don't understand.
I also don't want to hear the fnatic crusader opinions or shame calls on people from those that have extreme views like veganism (not all do this thankfully, infact I think most just do what they want and accept others) but those that do often say stuff like..
Its more healthy, its better for the enviroment, its better for the animals... etc etc etc.. Most of these are not even true.. Vegan products~have a huge impact on the enviroment (we could talk about nuts ie) they are almost sololy responsible for draught in certain regions.. The thing is.. its more like society problems, rather than "enviroment problems" most enviroment problems could be solved be decrasing the world population down to 800mil - 2 billion ´people and investing in "greener" trends. Meat is viable in many ways, even more so than some veggies..
People are often norrowminded and focus on "defending" the group they are part off, rather than finding common ground and a solution for us all.
Anyway.. in a near future we are all eating seaweed and mealworms anyway.. That is some of the most viable things to eat so far. As for my own opinion.. People can do what they want, as long as they don't go religion mode on my choices!
A fun little story to end the post.
I know someone that was pretty overweight, he was eating pretty poorly, then he decieded to go full Paleolithic diet and got in shape. But he did not want to go full extreme, so once a month had ate whatever he wanted, this could be all from a bucket of icecream and cookies, to visiting the local beef house a^nd eat until he was overfilled. He never forced judgement on others for their choices, nor said his choice was better for all (albeit he was in that opinion that it was best for him)
at least, use a credible source. Your body could synthesize cholesterol, regardless of what you eat.
Domestic animals don’t have a choice in what they eat. Human beings do. So not to insult cats and dogs, but comparison to one is kind of a low bar for someone to set themselves, surely?
The idea of humans needing to eat animal products to survive is not a scientific concept, it's a cultural one. Science is concerned with specific cause and effect; it can tell you the effects of having or not having particular nutrients in your diet, but the source of the nutrients doesn't matter. And a vegan diet can provide all the nutrients a human being needs, so hooray.
Of course yes, you shouldn't adopt a vegan diet without doing some research to make sure you're covering your bases nutritionally, I completely agree. But that's good advice anyway; it's not like vegans have a monopoly on diet-related illness.
Cows don't pop into existence out of thin air; we grow vast amounts of crops just to feed to animals for meat. You lose mass and energy each trophic level you go up the chain - it's much more efficient to just eat plants ourselves than it is to grow plants to feed to animals and then eat the animals.
Hahaha. Oh Steam forums. This honestly reads like a parody, and yet it's still apparently vegans that are 'indoctrinated' to a 'crappy religion'.
Rather than not understanding it, I would suggest people are likely instead just not dwelling on it. Because as there's very little chance of anyone accidentally falling into a time vortex, it's irrelevant.
I don´t think you can actually *be* vegan. At least not by choice. And it´s not like anyone will be able to force this stigma on any future generations, if they don´t accept it.
like just read this
"When she was questioned about the girl’s diet, the mother told a hospital dietitian that she would feed her daughter a cup of oats and rice milk and half a banana in the morning. For lunch she would have toast with jam or peanut butter and dinner would be tofu, rice or potatoes."
it just sounds like she wasnt getting a lot of the nutrients she needed
they also hid their daughter from the outside world which is another source is vitamin d, which i think confirms how the rickets was caused
i think being vegan is fine as long as you are getting the nutrients you need, as long as your healthy and not forcing it on other people vegans are pretty alright
tbh if you really wanted to make a difference don't have kids or have at most 1 kid.
Less to no children= no one to eat or intake on average 75 years worth of animal products. Also advocating the same for other people and pro-choice.
There's no use torturing yourself and risking your health if there's an easier way to do it.