Too many game clients?

Jej Aug 23, 2019 @ 6:10am

I prefer to not leave all of my eggs in one basket, so to speak.

Though I buy most of my games on GOG and that doesn't require a launcher to load my games so that kinda renders my point moot.

Last edited by Jej; Aug 23, 2019 @ 6:12am

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Daxank Aug 23, 2019 @ 6:13am

Yes
Steam was there in the first place to avoid getting so many clients, which was one of the reasons why piracy was so popular, now we're just going back to having more and more clients and I wouldn't be surprised if piracy becomes a huge problem again.
It's ridiculous.
Also I gotta say, they're all fighting the wrong fight, I don't get a launcher for the games, I get a launcher for the features, I don't care if your launcher owns ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Tetris when my account gets hacked in less than a month on your platform!

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Longhaul Aug 23, 2019 @ 6:31am

I use 8 game clients on pc, plus my Xbox and PlayStation.

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tmwfte Aug 23, 2019 @ 6:33am

Nope.

Anything that potentially promotes competition is a good thing.

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=CrimsoN= Aug 23, 2019 @ 6:39am

I don't care that there are a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of clients. I care about some titles being exclusive to a single client. Obviously looking at you Epic.

The funny thing is that Epic probably wouldn't even receive so much hate and would make for decent competition against Steam if they didn't bribe persuade developers to support exclusive titles for them.

Originally posted by Daxank:
Yes
Steam was there in the first place to avoid getting so many clients, which was one of the reasons why piracy was so popular, now we're just going back to having more and more clients and I wouldn't be surprised if piracy becomes a huge problem again.
It's ridiculous.
Also I gotta say, they're all fighting the wrong fight, I don't get a launcher for the games, I get a launcher for the features, I don't care if your launcher owns ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Tetris when my account gets hacked in less than a month on your platform!

^Also this. Pretty sure Gaben is quoted saying something a long the lines of the best method of combating piracy is giving users something they can't get with from pirates. That's why Steam has so many easy to use community features and the like.

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SMIFFY Aug 23, 2019 @ 6:40am

Originally posted by tmwfte:
Nope.

Anything that potentially promotes competition is a good thing.

No evidence of that so far.

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tmwfte Aug 23, 2019 @ 6:43am

Originally posted by SMIFFY:
No evidence of that so far.

There's tons of evidence of potential competition. Just setting up a separate store with different products and pricing structure for developers/publishers provides that potential.

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Daxank Aug 23, 2019 @ 6:46am

Originally posted by tmwfte:
Originally posted by SMIFFY:
No evidence of that so far.

There's tons of evidence of potential competition. Just setting up a separate store with different products and pricing structure for developers/publishers provides that potential.

And where's the proof that we're benefiting from it?
I've only noticed that I'm being strong armed on some other platforms that have many security issues, higher prices, almost no choice in payment methods and ♥♥♥♥ launchers

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tmwfte Aug 23, 2019 @ 6:52am

Originally posted by Daxank:
And where's the proof that we're benefiting from it?

GOG.

Especially in driving innovation for both DRM-free downloads and cross-client integration.

Also, your personal problems with one particular client or store doesn't negate the potential competition and drive for businesses to innovate.

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Daxank Aug 23, 2019 @ 6:55am

Originally posted by tmwfte:
Originally posted by Daxank:
And where's the proof that we're benefiting from it?

GOG.

Especially in driving innovation for both DRM-free downloads and cross-client integration.

Also, your personal problems with one particular client or store doesn't negate the potential competition and drive for businesses to innovate.

Security issues, higher prices and no choice in payment methods isn't a "me" problem

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tmwfte Aug 23, 2019 @ 7:01am

Originally posted by Daxank:
Security issues, higher prices and no choice in payment methods isn't a "me" problem

Sure it is. The "you" problem comes in your particular location. It's not a universal problem for everyone across stores and platforms. Because if you want to complain about security issues, higher prices, and no choice in payment methods, you're going to have to throw in Steam into the equation as one of the clients causing those problems and susceptible to further abuse if it becomes a de jure monopoly.

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Jej Aug 23, 2019 @ 7:11am

Originally posted by Daxank:
Security issues

Steam also has tons of those. Let's not forget the caching incident a few years ago that caused everyone's accounts to accidentally load other people's cached information.

Originally posted by Daxank:
no choice in payment methods :

We currently support the following payment methods: credit cards, PayPal, paysafecard, SOFORT, Giropay, webmoney, Yandex, QIWI, iDeal, Skrill, Alipay, UnionPay, WeChat, and Przelewy24. We also support payments via BoaCompra with a bank transfer, boleto, credit card, real-time online banking and wallet.

w o t

Originally posted by Daxank:
higher prices

That is an issue that only appeared recently, sadly. Before May GOG always stuck with their 1$ =/= 1€ policy but sadly they had to change that for specific games for some reason. Though a lot of games are still cheaper on GOG than on Steam and in the case of the games that ARE
more expensive I'd still pay the extra for a DRM-free copy.

Last edited by Jej; Aug 23, 2019 @ 7:12am

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Daxank Aug 23, 2019 @ 7:16am

Originally posted by Jej:
Originally posted by Daxank:
Security issues
Steam also has tons of those. Let's not forget the caching incident a few years ago that caused everyone's accounts to accidentally load other people's cached information.

Originally posted by Daxank:
no choice in payment methods :
We currently support the following payment methods: credit cards, PayPal, paysafecard, SOFORT, Giropay, webmoney, Yandex, QIWI, iDeal, Skrill, Alipay, UnionPay, WeChat, and Przelewy24. We also support payments via BoaCompra with a bank transfer, boleto, credit card, real-time online banking and wallet.
w o t

Originally posted by Daxank:
higher prices
That is an issue that only appeared recently, sadly. Before May GOG always stuck with their 1$ =/= 1€ policy but sadly they had to change that for specific games for some reason. Though a lot of games are still cheaper on GOG than on Steam and in the case of the games that ARE
more expensive I'd still pay the extra for a DRM-free copy.

I'm talking about Epic, GoG is good

And my steam account has absolutely never been hacked while my Epic account was hacked within the first month.

Last edited by Daxank; Aug 23, 2019 @ 7:16am

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Jej Aug 23, 2019 @ 7:16am

Originally posted by Daxank:
Originally posted by Jej:
Steam also has tons of those. Let's not forget the caching incident a few years ago that caused everyone's accounts to accidentally load other people's cached information.

w o t

That is an issue that only appeared recently, sadly. Before May GOG always stuck with their 1$ =/= 1€ policy but sadly they had to change that for specific games for some reason. Though a lot of games are still cheaper on GOG than on Steam and in the case of the games that ARE
more expensive I'd still pay the extra for a DRM-free copy.
I'm talking about Epic, GoG is good

Oh, my bad. Derr.

Carry on.

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Crazy Tiger Aug 23, 2019 @ 7:38am

The only launcher I use is Steam. I do purchase quite some games on GoG, though often older games that have been modified by GoG to work on newer computers. Saves me from doing it myself.

I don't need the other launchers, cause those games aren't to my interest in PC Gaming. My laptop isn't particularly strong, so I generally play my AAA games on the consoles. So Uplay, Origin, etc aren't stores/launchers I use at all.
Plus I get the added benefit of trade-ins and selling games I don't want to keep anymore.

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