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What would you do?
You and a super intelligent snail both get 1 million dollars, and you both become immortal, however you die if the snail touches you. It always knows where you are and slowly crawls toward you. What's your plan?
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Send it into space.
Messaggio originale di ♐ R€N€Ǥ₳Đ€ 🎧:
Send it into space.
then you could nevr die
Messaggio originale di SpíosraCeilteach:
Messaggio originale di Zubenelgenubi:
There are many studies showing insect behavior is almost as complex as human behavior, which is making scientists slowly accept they may be just as conscious as we are. Brain size is more closely tied to body size and is not a strong indicator of intelligence. We don't have the largest brains on Earth ourselves we're just more physically equipped to manipulate objects and tools, and have advanced languages, and that's how we've accomplished so much.
Sure behavior can be relatively complex, but this is completely unrelated to intelligence or reasoning, particularly as we think of them in terms of our own capacities. I doubt any foray into even a humble "super-intelligent" snail's capacities will yield anything that might suggest intelligent behavior as we would like to grant it.

Of course, snails are not insects...
whats your point even?
Messaggio originale di an lol mellow:
whats your point even?
I am expressing my thoughts that relatively complex behavior is not an indicator of any capability of reasoning or intelligence beyond what is required to carry out said behavior or that might compare to our own.

For example, mammals generally display complex behavior and are capable of reasoning and learning via negative or positive reinforcement; however, the fact that such behavior and mental capacities are there does not mean a dog is capable of learning Pythagoras' Theorem, understanding the nature of it, applying it in novel ways to understand and shape the world, etc. as we do.

Most of the actions being attributed to the snail here are of just such a degree of complexity, complexity which a snail is physically and mentally incapable of reaching.
Ultima modifica da Spíosra; 21 gen 2017, ore 19:38
This question is amazing. I need to put some real thought into this.

Messaggio originale di Fedora Tutorials:
Messaggio originale di Coda:
Pay someone to put it in an airtight box.
The snail pays another snail to be a decoy.
I will do the same. If the snail touches my decoy he should be fooled, right?

Also, what does the snail getting 1 million dollars have to do with this?
Ultima modifica da R.A.T. Army *MST3K*; 21 gen 2017, ore 19:19
Fly to the other side of the planet, should take a long time for it to get to me, then I can go back to the other side. When I get onto the plane, I will make sure the snail does not as well.

Also, some of my money will go into a little robot that follows the snail around, so I always know where it is.
Ultima modifica da Mr.Zombie; 21 gen 2017, ore 19:22
Put a soup bowl over the snail and stick a brick ontop so it cant escape or i would trap it into a suitcase and than strap weights to the suit case and chuck it off a bridge into the ocean.

With the money i would build some community farms for poor famillies in Phillipenes and donate some to poor folks in south america and build some more crop farms for people in africa and some little schools.
Ultima modifica da + Danielle + Busy but active; 21 gen 2017, ore 19:36
I'll get it a restraining order and spend the money to treat myself. Not spending a penny on the snail staying away.
Ultima modifica da Ymir; 21 gen 2017, ore 19:41
If we're talking unnecessarily and unrealistically intelligent, then it'd be able to understand human speech and I could ask it why it wants to get me, explain it'd kill me to no benefit of itself, and then help them find another colony of snails to live in and help it get its remaining million donated to wildlife conservation. After all, this snail can hire decoy snails and the like, so it seems pretty reasonable.

With my own million, that'd be enough to own a modest $15,000 a year flat for just over 60 years (or let me pay off college and keep $860k, enough to rent that flat for 57 years as opposed to 66), and then I can design independent games, write, etc. at my own pace. That sounds quite nice. The last few years have been really hectic and stressful.
Messaggio originale di E3kHatena:
If we're talking unnecessarily and unrealistically intelligent, then it'd be able to understand human speech and I could ask it why it wants to get me, explain it'd kill me to no benefit of itself, and then help them find another colony of snails to live in and help it get its remaining million donated to wildlife conservation. After all, this snail can hire decoy snails and the like, so it seems pretty reasonable.

With my own million, that'd be enough to own a modest $15,000 a year flat for just over 60 years (or let me pay off college and keep $860k, enough to rent that flat for 57 years as opposed to 66), and then I can design independent games, write, etc. at my own pace. That sounds quite nice. The last few years have been really hectic and stressful.
you physically cant die

and you want to go to college and settle down
Messaggio originale di SpíosraCeilteach:
Messaggio originale di an lol mellow:
whats your point even?
I am expressing my thoughts that relatively complex behavior is not an indicator of any capability of reasoning or intelligence beyond what is required to carry out said behavior or that might compare to our own.

For example, mammals generally display complex behavior and are capable of reasoning and learning via negative or positive reinforcement; however, the fact that such behavior and mental capacities are there does not mean a dog is capable of learning Pythagoras' Theorem, understanding the nature of it, applying it in novel ways to understand and shape the world, etc. as we do.

Most of the actions being attributed to the snail here are of just such a degree of complexity, complexity which a snail is physically and mentally incapable of reaching.
so?
Messaggio originale di an lol mellow:
so?
So, the theoretical question of what one would do in the scenario as the gentle OP puts forth can be eliminated of unnecessary difficulty.

Any "super-intelligent" snail is only so insofar as it is physiologically possible for a snail to have the capacity for reason and intellect. This in addition to obvious physical and logical constraints renders the scenario of trivial difficulty in dealing with.
Messaggio originale di SpíosraCeilteach:
Messaggio originale di an lol mellow:
so?
So, the theoretical question of what one would do in the scenario as the gentle OP puts forth can be eliminated of unnecessary difficulty.

Any "super-intelligent" snail is only so insofar as it is physiologically possible for a snail to have the capacity for reason and intellect. This in addition to obvious physical and logical constraints renders the scenario of trivial difficulty in dealing with.
but its just a question lol

but okay

the snail has a computer in it from the future and the computer has super inteligent ai on it that controls the snail
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