Anyone else seeing strange equations when waking up?

[zepedachemical]

I'm talking like advanced geometry and calculus of a language only Jesus knows. It used to happen infrequently I would wake up to see writings and scribbles that would last a handful of seconds. Now, after four years, i'm experiencing equations, some of them are computing/running at different speeds/rates superimposed transparently atop one another using a wide varying of numbers and symbols I'm not familiar with. I looked it up and it is definitely not Hypnogogic or Hypnopompic Hallucinations because this doesn't compare...hell it does not even come close to it. It's every other day (1-3) that I wake up seeing them and they last 20-30 seconds now.

[Nova Unit]

I can't say I wake up and "see things", can't even remember my own dreams.

But.. I can vision something in my mind and turn it into reality.
Let me give you an example:

At work, my employer (boss) wanted me to create something for medical technical equipment, it is more or less a "weight". Since we are talking medication, it can't be constructed of something that can eventually contaminate the machine or the medication.

Since I do know we have pieces of nylon (more like blocks), and we have a milling machine, I get to work. So a couple of hours later I made a prototype - tested it and it failed. So I sliced in half, put in the milling machine make both nylon blocks same size by measuring them with a measuring caliper.

Now it has changed the original design, but has same weight, but can't get stuck in said machine.
Still a prototype, but no blueprints other than in my head..


I'm terrible with math. I really mean it, my grades were a joke. But on the other hand, when I was working with milling/lathe machines even CNC and CAD/CAM the teachers just couldn't figure out why it worked then.

I know how to figure out areas, know how to use most tools, can even construct tools (if needed).
But math.. No. Give me a paper with numbers, it won't work.

[76561198315424152]

I've seen some golden symbols/text coming from God knows where behind closed eyelids on psilocybin mushrooms..looked like it was real text, clear, & unmoving symbols (but like coming in close a row from afar), nothing like what I've seen before. Unfortunately i could never recreate the symbols shown or seen but it was..a neat little anekdot from psilocybin land.

[Preacher]

Good necro. I miss 2016.

Y'all need to lay off the psychedelic shrooms

[Devsman]

You are John Nash

[zepedachemical]

Doing great now I'm studying Enochian. My discernment and comprehension has skyrocketed!

[sotaponi]

引用自 sotaponi：

So fundamentally, when you read a sentence and fill in blanks, or you see a face when there is none, then it's perspective. But surely perspective is real. It's not made up. (So you are arguably declaring linguistic or even idealistic types of perspective as dimensionally real. Akin to spatiotemporal perspective. For else you surely wouldn't be able to have this perspective. And you also declare for there to be a real noumenon of the word. That is, a territory. Meaning that words and ideas arguably have a true meaning or form in their own "present" [the ideal form, or noumenon, you can never see].)

Then you also acknowledge that perspective might relate to ideas such as pathfinding. As, when we speak to somebody, we arguably navigate a map (the hardware-"persona" of a mind-territory/mainboard). And already you can begin considering the fact that classical computers are terrible at such things, and how quantum physics do imply agency. Thanks to the uncertainty principle.

Just to make this more explicit: If you are logically consistent, then the GPU and CPU (meaning the hardware) merely represent sense organs with which you can “see” reason in e.g. phenomenal human language. But thinking surely happens in the mind, that is analogous to the mainboard. It doesn't happen in the brain. And we are using a more metaphysical and real/ideal language when thinking, possibly tied to degrees of consciousness, which could also make a case for unconscious AI never competing with us in the real world, but always remaining idiot savantic.

So if a person sees equations as mentioned by the OP, then since our mind most likely thinks in quantum physical logic such as rationalist quantum states, and then translates the entire thing over to human math via the brain as sense organ for reason... (Neurons are no different from taste buds in the tongue. Declaring the brain as not merely a sense organ is special pleading that has to be proven. And brain/body dualism is a silly form of mind/body dualism.)

You could humor it as real, that a person can “see” more directly what its brain as physical sense organ for reason outputs, after the mind is done with thinking on a plausibly quantum physical level. Hence why it's possible to see superimposed math and other crazy things after waking up. The same way that I "saw" the correct time on my clock (mentioned earlier ITT) either via ESP or by being told such by my brain's internal clock.

Which might very well be a malfunction. People are not supposed to see this. In which case you could argue that it should be fixed, the same way that problems with the tongue's taste buds should be fixed, if there is a problem. But this doesn't mean that these aren't "real" equations.

(Not that I would consider myself seeing the time a malfunction. I could consider it a feature just as well. Moreso if remote-viewing as it happens during NDEs is actually real. If the physical body is merely a 5-dimensional kind of illusion created by dark energy making particles appear to leave the big bang's event horizon via expansion. Or the event horizon that could be your birth/death, if you are already "dead" in a 5-dimensional sense and merely navigating your life. If you are Schrodinger's Cat to yourself. And (will) have a higher "self" after being done here. Or whatever. YMMV.)

Either way, "the brain fills gaps" or "it's a hallucination" is not scientific or sceptical, but a case of begging the question; a logical fallacy.

[Pieshaman]

Hallucinations in the form of delusions and disorganized thinking
You describing forms of schizophrenic symptoms.
I advice to go see your local physician.

[Fostin4]

You are being contacted by aliens, quickly write down the equation here.

[Pieshaman]

I'm actually good at maths,physics and chemistry.
I would like to see something too to tell it make sense or just crap in your head.

[Candyy]

引用自 zepedachemical：

I'm talking like advanced geometry and calculus of a language only Jesus knows. It used to happen infrequently I would wake up to see writings and scribbles that would last a handful of seconds. Now, after four years, i'm experiencing equations, some of them are computing/running at different speeds/rates superimposed transparently atop one another using a wide varying of numbers and symbols I'm not familiar with. I looked it up and it is definitely not Hypnogogic or Hypnopompic Hallucinations because this doesn't compare...hell it does not even come close to it. It's every other day (1-3) that I wake up seeing them and they last 20-30 seconds now.

What is it weird about a 2nd grade or 3rd grade equation

[jbg3468]

I see a lot of people joking about this topic. I searched the internet just now to see if anyone else was experiencing this. For many years now, I have been experiencing this phenomenon about 5-10% of the time when I awaken. I would say while awakening from REM sleep. With my eyes slowly opening and closing from sleep, I see a very fast burst of some type of mathematical equations. Each equation is only discernible for a split second. I can make out maybe two or three symbols for each equation as it flashes through my mind. The equations are white colored font on a completely black background. I never took more than algebra in college, but this looks like some kind of trigonometry or very advanced math. it is pretty freaky and I don't know what it all means. I would say they go on for about 3-4 minutes while slowly waking up.

[WhispersOfTheWind]

引用自 jbg3468：

I see a lot of people joking about this topic. I searched the internet just now to see if anyone else was experiencing this. For many years now, I have been experiencing this phenomenon about 5-10% of the time when I awaken. I would say while awakening from REM sleep. With my eyes slowly opening and closing from sleep, I see a very fast burst of some type of mathematical equations. Each equation is only discernible for a split second. I can make out maybe two or three symbols for each equation as it flashes through my mind. The equations are white colored font on a completely black background. I never took more than algebra in college, but this looks like some kind of trigonometry or very advanced math. it is pretty freaky and I don't know what it all means. I would say they go on for about 3-4 minutes while slowly waking up.

Wtf dude.

[gagnrad]

Pics or it didn't happen people. All of you are just making this up for attention.

[Electric Cupcake]

Nice necro. Agent Smith approves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ28SypAk80

[Othobrithol]

Necro......brainzzzzzz.....

I kind of understand this kind of thing. Whenever I work on something really hard for a number of days I'll start to dream about it.

If I keep it up for long enough I start seeing superimposed diagrams/equations/text but I have no control over what I see - it'll just be related to whatever I am working on. Rarely anything useful but I assume it's already integrated into my cognition.

Maybe sort of the equivalent of sounding out an idea verbally to engage more of your brain in the process?