Are Sonic fans the reason the modern games can't improve?

[Grima The Fell Dragon]

I'll admit the series has had some stinkers; Sonic 06 gameplay wise and Sonic Boom is just unfinished. But I feel Sega has tried new things with the blue blur that get burned at stake criticism without advice on a way to fix the issues.

Do the different factions of fans dilute the vision for Sonic?

[Grima The Fell Dragon]

Sashie님이 먼저 게시:

The problem is going ultra fast and 3d aren't a good match. Unless its a racing game.

Well if they could fix the whole blasting off again if you go too fast.

[Polarblastman]

Grima The Fell Dragon님이 먼저 게시:

Polarblastman님이 먼저 게시:

TBH I've always wondered why sonic fans have complained about gameplay changes so much. I mean, mario games have changed a lot mechanically and there aren't nearly as many people complaining there.

I love the variety, and honestly didn't get the hate.

Plus there's the fact that when you think about it, both series have had almost all mainseries games follow one of three gameplay styles.

Mario:
2D (Super Mario Bros. 1-3, Super Mario World and New Super Mario Bros. series)
Linear 3D (3D Land and 3D World)
Open-Ended 3D (64, Sunshine, Galaxy 1 and 2, Odyssey)

Sonic:
Classic (Genesis Games and Mania)
Adventure (Sonic Adventure 1 and 2, Heroes and 06)
Boost (Unleashed, Colors, Generations and Forces)

[Dominic]

Not really I would say. Sonic's speed is kind of hard to make work in 3D and if it is in 2D you have to make it more of a platform game then a speed game because odds are you are going to run full speed into something out of nowhere if it is 2D when it pops on your screen and if you make the screen to zoomed out it is hard to see.


I myself like most Sonic games to be honest. My main issue with Sonic Forces that recently came out was it was to easy and the robots mostly stood in one spot or ran away from you. That and stages were to short and the backgrounds looked more fun to play in then the level I was in at the moment.

Should of focused less on the backgrounds of levels.

[Grima The Fell Dragon]

Dominic님이 먼저 게시:

Not really I would say. Sonic's speed is kind of hard to make work in 3D and if it is in 2D you have to make it more of a platform game then a speed game because odds are you are going to run full speed into something out of nowhere if it is 2D when it pops on your screen and if you make the screen to zoomed out it is hard to see.


I myself like most Sonic games to be honest. My main issue with Sonic Forces that recently came out was it was to easy and the robots mostly stood in one spot or ran away from you. That and stages were to short and the backgrounds looked more fun to play in then the level I was in at the moment.

Should of focused less on the backgrounds of levels.

Maybe they should have cut out Classic Sonic and spent that development time on improving the homing attack and boss battles.

[Dominic]

Grima The Fell Dragon님이 먼저 게시:

Dominic님이 먼저 게시:

Not really I would say. Sonic's speed is kind of hard to make work in 3D and if it is in 2D you have to make it more of a platform game then a speed game because odds are you are going to run full speed into something out of nowhere if it is 2D when it pops on your screen and if you make the screen to zoomed out it is hard to see.


I myself like most Sonic games to be honest. My main issue with Sonic Forces that recently came out was it was to easy and the robots mostly stood in one spot or ran away from you. That and stages were to short and the backgrounds looked more fun to play in then the level I was in at the moment.

Should of focused less on the backgrounds of levels.

Maybe they should have cut out Classic Sonic and spent that development time on improving the homing attack and boss battles.

Then that would of caused a issue with a lot of people because he was in the trailer to be honest. The homing attacking being eh was strange I got to admit because it worked pretty good in older games like Sonic Adventure's series.

Boss wise I just do not know what would make a good Sonic boss in 3D now adays. Sonic has always had ok bosses at most when it came to 3D. But he still shines when it comes to music.

[Dr.Goose]

how can you make a good game if the main mechanic is just to go fast?

[Dominic]

Dr.Goose님이 먼저 게시:

how can you make a good game if the main mechanic is just to go fast?

Racing. Or good platforming.

Sonic is fast but at the start that was not his main thing. Of course being fast is a part of him but platforming is what he mostly was.

[Blargo]

Dr.Goose님이 먼저 게시:

how can you make a good game if the main mechanic is just to go fast?

Racing games?

[Grima The Fell Dragon]

Dominic님이 먼저 게시:

Grima The Fell Dragon님이 먼저 게시:

Maybe they should have cut out Classic Sonic and spent that development time on improving the homing attack and boss battles.

Then that would of caused a issue with a lot of people because he was in the trailer to be honest. The homing attacking being eh was strange I got to admit because it worked pretty good in older games like Sonic Adventure's series.

Boss wise I just do not know what would make a good Sonic boss in 3D now adays. Sonic has always had ok bosses at most when it came to 3D. But he still shines when it comes to music.

I personally think he shouldn't have even been in the trailer. If he's connected to the story, let him come in at the end to hint a link to the phantom ruby. And for god's sake bring back his voice actor from the original cartoon.

[Dominic]

Grima The Fell Dragon님이 먼저 게시:

Dominic님이 먼저 게시:

Then that would of caused a issue with a lot of people because he was in the trailer to be honest. The homing attacking being eh was strange I got to admit because it worked pretty good in older games like Sonic Adventure's series.

Boss wise I just do not know what would make a good Sonic boss in 3D now adays. Sonic has always had ok bosses at most when it came to 3D. But he still shines when it comes to music.

I personally think he shouldn't have even been in the trailer. If he's connected to the story, let him come in at the end to hint a link to the phantom ruby. And for god's sake bring back his voice actor from the original cartoon.

This voice?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU2LIP0fzhA

[Grima The Fell Dragon]

Dominic님이 먼저 게시:

Grima The Fell Dragon님이 먼저 게시:

I personally think he shouldn't have even been in the trailer. If he's connected to the story, let him come in at the end to hint a link to the phantom ruby. And for god's sake bring back his voice actor from the original cartoon.

This voice?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU2LIP0fzhA

Yes that one. I may have nostalgia goggles, but I loved his voice in the cartoon. I just think him being silent, yet everyone knows what he's saying is stupid. They let classic tails talk and he sounded like he was going through puberty in generations.

[Dominic]

Grima The Fell Dragon님이 먼저 게시:

Dominic님이 먼저 게시:

This voice?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU2LIP0fzhA

Yes that one. I may have nostalgia goggles, but I loved his voice in the cartoon. I just think him being silent, yet everyone knows what he's saying is stupid. They let classic tails talk and he sounded like he was going through puberty in generations.

I honestly like this Sonic's voice to.

If I remember right he did talk in one Sonic game back as the older version of Sonic. In Sonic CD he said yes when he got a extra life.

[Grima The Fell Dragon]

Dominic님이 먼저 게시:

Grima The Fell Dragon님이 먼저 게시:

Yes that one. I may have nostalgia goggles, but I loved his voice in the cartoon. I just think him being silent, yet everyone knows what he's saying is stupid. They let classic tails talk and he sounded like he was going through puberty in generations.

I honestly like this Sonic's voice to.

If I remember right he did talk in one Sonic game back as the older version of Sonic. In Sonic CD he said yes when he got a extra life.

I think that was last speaking role, if memory serves me right. Dunno why they don't let him talk, he fits the sassy 90's attitude more when he's allowed to make snarky comments.

[Polarblastman]

Dominic님이 먼저 게시:

Grima The Fell Dragon님이 먼저 게시:

Yes that one. I may have nostalgia goggles, but I loved his voice in the cartoon. I just think him being silent, yet everyone knows what he's saying is stupid. They let classic tails talk and he sounded like he was going through puberty in generations.

I honestly like this Sonic's voice to.

If I remember right he did talk in one Sonic game back as the older version of Sonic. In Sonic CD he said yes when he got a extra life.

Don't forget that infamous "I'm Outta Here" line if you didn't touch the controls for 3 minutes.

[Dominic]

Polarblastman님이 먼저 게시:

Dominic님이 먼저 게시:

I honestly like this Sonic's voice to.

If I remember right he did talk in one Sonic game back as the older version of Sonic. In Sonic CD he said yes when he got a extra life.

Don't forget that infamous "I'm Outta Here" line if you didn't touch the controls for 3 minutes.

Oh yeah forgot about that. When the most evil man in your world is going to destroy everything if you can not figure out what to do for 3 minutes just let him win lol.