ian 2017 年 8 月 24 日 下午 3:57
Is legend of Zelda Ocarina of time overrated ?
Do you think that oot is an overrated game ?
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Ⓥenom Ⓢnake 🐍 2017 年 8 月 25 日 上午 11:12 
Huh. First time I ever had someone explain to me how I am wrong by saying I was just bad at playing a game. Odd feeling, really.

The game you are describing is fairly different that the one I played through. One I very much gave a chance, on two systems, might I add. Up until that point, I had played and completed every Zelda game. It was also the only game on the 64 I never completed, and I was at the last fight. I was off the franchise until Windwaker. After that lovely little gem, I popped the disk they gave me with Ocarina and Mask on it, to give it another go, since I really favored the gamecubes controller. Same reaction.

At it's release, the game was hardly "Revolutionary". The 64 was dated hardware at launch. and while it did have the edge with load speeds which allowed it to hands down demolish the competition in games involving sprites, it's 3d work was atrocious. It was simply the first time the character was in 3d. If you look at similar games from the time, you'll see some pretty serious innovation going on, with better looking and playing games with less horse power. Hell two years before that, Lara Croft was doing everything Link was supposed to, without an analogue stick.

It's quite fine to love the series. It is quite fine to look back on it fondly. I look back quite fondly at several of the games on the 64. But there is no way you are going to convince me that the game was anything but a highly revered pain in my tookus, and certainly doesn't deserve the rep it's got.
Tiberius 2017 年 8 月 25 日 上午 11:14 
Zelda is overrated. Mario is not
We are in the Beam 2017 年 8 月 25 日 下午 12:06 
引用自 King Slimload
Sure.

It's a great game, but I wouldn't call is one of the "best games ever". I wouldn't even call it the best Zelda game.
Aznees 2017 年 8 月 25 日 下午 12:12 
People who say OOT has stood the test of time are nostalgia blinded, later games in the series are much smoother to control and make the game look clunky in comparison, not a bad game but far from best game of all time.
Scrat- 2017 年 8 月 25 日 下午 12:14 
Difficult question. You can't argue that it was groundbreaking at the time, but when compared to some games nowadays, it's certainly not the 'masterpiece' anymore that people claim it still is. OOT was far ahead of its time and a fantastic experience for many alike, but when you take the nostalgia glasses off you can see the many flaws it was dealing with. It deserves all of the respect it gets, but it shouldn't be compared to games from these days, it doesn't come close in terms of quality.
Rio 2017 年 8 月 25 日 下午 12:19 
Often times people say "quality" and all they really mean is graphics and casualizations that make a game easy. With more shiny lights.
Scrat- 2017 年 8 月 25 日 下午 12:23 
引用自 Sashie
Often times people say "quality" and all they really mean is graphics and casualizations that make a game easy. With more shiny lights.
In todays standards, OOT has a flawed story, flawed gameplay, flawed mechanics, flawed combat, etc. It does a whole lot of things right, and it's the rightful predecessor to a lot of masterpieces today, but it can't compare.
Rio 2017 年 8 月 25 日 下午 12:25 
"Flawed story" Other points aside, this one gonna be good.
Mossy Snake 2017 年 8 月 25 日 下午 12:30 
引用自 Sashie
"Flawed story" Other points aside, this one gonna be good.
-The combat is extremely simple to the point of repetitive. All the bosses are just "Hit eye/hand/bodypart, wait for the boss to attack, then hit eye/hand/bodypart again" over and over until you win. Quite a few enemies (most notably the Lizalfos and Stalfos) are like this aswell.

-The story is pretty generic, and none of the characters have any real development

-The game is painfully linear for an "open-world" game

-Most of the game is rather empty, especially Hyrule Field (Partly due to limitations)

-The camera is crap, which is partly the controller's fault

-Each dungeon revolves around 1-2 items which will rarely be used again outside of said dungeon (Kind of a flaw with Zelda in general actually)

It's a good game, but it's nowhere near being amazing, or even the best Zelda
Rio 2017 年 8 月 25 日 下午 12:35 
You really must not have play it because there is character developement. For example the man on the horse farm who eventually owns it. Then loses to link and learns to be greatful.
Mossy Snake 2017 年 8 月 25 日 下午 12:38 
引用自 Sashie
You really must not have play it because there is character developement. For example the man on the horse farm who eventually owns it. Then loses to link and learns to be greatful.
I own it on my N64, thank you.

His character development consists of "I got a farm and I like horses!" and then Link steals Epona and he becomes sad and somewhat grateful for what he has.

That's it. It's not very much.
最後修改者:Mossy Snake; 2017 年 8 月 25 日 下午 12:39
Slumdog 2017 年 8 月 25 日 下午 1:03 
OOT is pretty fun but it isn't really perfect. It aged pretty bad imo.
Zefar 2017 年 8 月 25 日 下午 10:17 
引用自 I have the Gay
People who say OOT has stood the test of time are nostalgia blinded, later games in the series are much smoother to control and make the game look clunky in comparison, not a bad game but far from best game of all time.

Clunky? No, absolutely not. Link controls just fine and the game itself is just not clunky.

引用自 Scrat-
In todays standards, OOT has a flawed story, flawed gameplay, flawed mechanics, flawed combat, etc. It does a whole lot of things right, and it's the rightful predecessor to a lot of masterpieces today, but it can't compare.

How is it a flawed story?
How is the gameplay flawed?
What mechanics are flawed?
What's wrong with combat?


引用自 MossyRathalos
The N64 controller always felt rough and awkward to use. It never perfectly fit in my hands, and it constantly feels like I have to readjust my grip just to hit multiple buttons at once, and it required you to to change your grip to hit the buttons on the left side.
I don't recall ever needing to use the D-Pad on the left side on the N64 controller. It was just the middle grip and the right grip you needed to have your hands on.

So it's really starting to sound like you just wasn't good enough with it.

引用自 MossyRathalos
While the camera was centerable, it would often go ham when trying to target fast-moving targets like Volvaga (Can't spell it's name) or like you said, the bats. It would also do the typical N64-camera thing where it would go through some walls and get caught on others, which could get really obnoxious, especially in the Dodongo cavern.

But bats messing up the camera only happened they they flew right over you so all one did was put some space between each other and then start attacking.
It really wasn't an issue.
Don't recall camera going through some walls but not others.

引用自 MossyRathalos
Also I never said Link himself controlled poorly, I actually said the opposite:

引用自 MossyRathalos
Link moves fine,

The fact that you said controls suck just makes me think you claim that controlling Link was bad. He is after all the thing you control the most.
🍋 Lemonfed 🍋 2017 年 8 月 25 日 下午 10:51 
zelda Ocarina of time had good controls compared to several other games franchises that made their 3D debut during the same era.

For the story , maybe it was not strong but it was good enough for what the game needed.
Gongaga 2017 年 8 月 25 日 下午 11:03 
引用自 Wookiecharmander
Nope oot is simply a masterpiece of video game design it beats breath of the wild any day of the week
Do you even Majora's Mask
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