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idk what happend, but sci-fi is a great genre
so i guess no one watches movies then....
Batman Returns 1992 and Batman 1989 are super great movies even though they are not science fiction
but still they are fictional
so i guess they do have something in common
That's what I say, I only thought of: 'was'.
I get it, 'fiction'. I said science-fiction.
Life is highly subjective so when it comes to this: I guess that it is what you make it.
But a valid point: life is moving ''slow''. Or to say, that: life is relatively slow moving, tempo wise. Somewhere along the lines I wondered: why is this; and: isn't it possible to move ''faster'', also.
Agreed. But don't you think that a lot of them are .. hmm; so to say 'old'? Or: known(?)
Right, I see.
See here about Fiction... (and I'm sorry if I take my time)
Fiction used to be unimaginable. That's important to understand; and (admittedly) to know, like in boundaries but also in the fact that: it comes from somewhere. So, there's always almost a plausible aspect to it.
Something you can almost feel. It's also a sort of cultural commodity, as it were.
but than, so: it has A sort of 'beginning and an end' to it, now to see those boundary sort of ''end'' or "fade" into reality (think of human heads being transplanted, for instance while 'Science'; or ''just'' Science still can't heal a bluet wound): is that something to be ''concerned'' about? Or is it just another 'normal' thing... Of low quality, so to speak... or does 'quality' nothing to do with it: fact that Science-fiction... is sort of "stale". (I think it's been like this for a while).
Now, perhaps: where the lines between science fiction and science fact are fading or at lest to (mildly) say: blending in I am starting to wonder, what's next for 'Science-fiction' in these terms of regard...
Like are we going back, to where 'old' will start to be 'new' and: who's to say that we haven't already ''been there''... before. It's almost cyclical in nature, this sort of more or less "mechanic" of perhaps fiction itself but to me it ... almost feels like an ominous something...
besides the fact that Science-fiction sort of worked as you might imagine.
Like: imagine if you'd run out of imagination. That'd be sort of a ''catastrophe'', right?
So in this sense to a lot of people it was like an ''escape'' but to see it sort of become reality...
tldr: I am not doubting if it's in good hands, or not... it's just: where is it going, if we don't have Science-fiction, only 'teachers'... in this regard.
Everything becomes so serious.
Movies used to be like the medium, but today obvioiusly they've changed. Books are ''changed'' too (I think) so:
lack of science fiction, or creativity therein? I think.
I don't get you completely, but: I've stopped watching movies, a long time ago, if that matters. I started playing games instead.
I think now, movies are different anyways, sort of... different from than, but than again: whole world's changed and where it is going... it's sort of a ''known unknown'', to quote one or another.
It's nice to get hints from time to time, like... ''pieces'' of the puzzle. Whatever the puzzle is, life or some sort of ''code''... like 'prophecy' (using it as a 'broad term' here).
I don't see that now, except things 'coming whole', a lot. And everyone participating.
Exactly, but not quite; for: what's next if science fiction becomes real?
Let's make it clear that I (also) think that Scientific progress has had a tempo, unimaginable before but there's sort of... I don't know. Sort of a ''fictional'' or ''imaginative" aspect or 'part' in the way for I'd almost want to claim is keeping 'us' from 'evolving'; from 'further progressing, but I don't know: I don't have the ''proof' for this, except to say, that: I'm feeling sort of not necessarily 'sad' but rather:
Depressed, about it, there where others might have certain fears I sort of think.. perceive, that: we're waiting on something.
Almost like a parent to guide us and hold our hand, while we ''experiment'', explore, practice and apply...
I feel like, the whole lot's already been ''explored'' (thoroughly, before; wouldn't you agree?), now we need to put some parts of it into action... Yet...
Is there a sort of 'embargo' or... 'event'... ongoing like a writer has a 'writer's block'. Isn't there 'no one to do it'? Or is there mistrust?
I hear some people, sometimes saying 'we're not worth it' but I think they're sort of pessimists. Regardless,I think that plays a part in the world not ''evolving'' further, either sort of self-insecurity, boundaries or even imagination.
Yet all I see almost everywhere: is people contributing to culture (in opinion, in sharing experiences/pictures/videos), so... that than again makes me positive, to sort of ''hope'' for the 'next big thing' yet I realize that not everyone is able to contribute to (successful, and more or less complete in and with) like the sort of business side of things.
Hence; a lot of things get 'forgotten'... Later to be reinvented.
This seems to be a recurring theme, in our collective... consciousness. Judging from the past.
I'd almost feel like we need new story-tellers, or sort of inspirational characters... To show us the way but not only that of, relative, personal success.
I think old Sci-fi movies strove, and to some extend succeeded in this, to inspire others to at least dream, let alone realize ... certain aspects.
What's next?
Okay. Care to name a few examples? I can't see them. As said, I feel like the most of ethical side of things has been sort of 'explored' and understood by now, how come there's no new impulse or... sort of ''capital'' or 'life' (blown) into these aspects.
Like there's literally no 'Science-fiction' with a working AI, or ... not a working AI, but we're literally at its doorstep... People, high profile people, say that it's a sort of 'Djinn' (like a ''wish granter'') but we shouldn't make use of it.
When I look and think 'why', all I see is sort of fear like 'horror' (also a 'genre'), but: is it justified?
I think we could use something like that, but than not just on sort of 'corporate-scale'.
Would it be an understatement to say that the ''end'' (the perceivable end-of ''imagination'' like Sci-fi) makes it possible, to start a new chapter, in our.. combined World?
-to make the impossible, possible (what once, or most of the times, was deemed impossible, but not forgotten if nothing echoes lasted long) or:
Are we... too old fashioned to 'tango'...
Dangers might be real to go beyond the 'lines' of Science like in Sci-fi (becoming real), but I equally see the dangers being real if we don't act, in time. Think along the lines of wars, miseducation corruption etc... I think!; -sort of 'world wide' plagues (or are they?).
Beyond that: the -real- dangers of a natural plague or catastrophe... Epidemic. Epidemics.
Isn't no one like... thinking about this, or is it just another... 'fictional-scenario'?
I dont think it is dying, but there is some truth in that other genres (movie wise) may have topics that sort of blend with sci fi, whilst not actually being sci fi in and of themselves if that makes sense?
I also think there is some truth in that the science fiction of previous generations can become the science fact of todays generation in some instances.
And the same will be true for this generation and the technologies of the world they grow up in.
Anyway, why I think sci fi isnt dead but to some it may appear as such:
As someone else pointed out, there is a blending of genres in movies.
Sci fi also used to be "obviously" sci fi because in a lot of movies it was just so out there for the time compared to the actual current real world "consumer" technology available at the time. (50s and 60s B movies)
And the idea that various technologies really were in "the future" their visual design augmented this.
These are sci fi futures from the perspectives of the audience at the movies release remember.
Today these visions of the future may look laughable because we are living in "their" futures with better technology, excluding transporters, holodecks, insane robots and matter conversion.
Could this be how this generation will look back on the sci fi they grew up with when comparing what technologies they may have available in old age?
Its possible.
But to me, I find the "retro futuristic" look is actually quite cool.
But then again I love B movies, was a child of the 80s and enjoy me some synth wave:)
Check out the Forbidden Planet with Robbie the Robot, and the scene with the great Krell Machine here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JTeq-ZkuF8
(thats an ambient sound loop but the visuals are there)
The Black Hole trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzUJJKDa558
Saturn 3 trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NENxIu02bvg
But they are perceived as "only" horror movies, or steam punk movies with sci fi twists...
... because throughout the particular film, these are the perceptions that shout the loudest to the audience?
To be fair it isnt black and white.
Even as a fan of the genre, any movie about a utopian society or dystopian society is "generally" happening in the future for example.
Is the stuff going down in space?
This I would class as sci fi most likely. Including cyberpunk themes.
Change cyberpunk to steampunk, switch the utopian civilisation out for a derelict space ship society aimlessly wandering the cosmos and I would still class it as sci fi if a little darker potential.
My perception of a film being sci fi rather than horror, tends to be based on the villian.
Is the villian mankind itself, is it sentient AI, nanobots or a thousand apocalypse scenarios.
In my mind, all of this could still be the basis for sci fi.
But take 1984's Terminator. Is this horror? Maybe not.
Alien? Again, dark themes but not really horror.
Event Horizon?
That to me is considered a horror film even though it has most of what I would class as sci fi elements.
Maybe the scales between sci fi and horror are tipped with lots of violence and spiky engine rooms powered by black holes.
Speaking of black holes, even DISNEY'S "the black hole" disturbs me a bit to this day, I guess its the use of themes that cut a little deeper and make you think.
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/culture/a26846/best-sci-fi-books-2017/
And for movies of 2017:
Valerian
Power Rangers
Alien Covenant
The Space Between Us
A Cure for Wellness
Ghost in the Shell
Guardians of the Galaxy 2
Transformers
War of the Planet of the Apes
Flatliners
Blade Runner
Godzilla
Star Wars
Overall, I'd say 2017 was a great year for Science Fiction in film, and there's ALWAYS new books being written.