Bad Games

[Do You Want A Banana?]

It's funny how ever since Steam kinda lowered it's standards, the floodgate opened to poor quality low-rated games. I hate having to sift through free-to-play games to find games in X price range, so I went to the most expensive and went backwards because it's faster. The majority of what I'm seeing is games that are rated very poorly. It seems vastly more so than positive. I honestly believe Valve is killing itself with poor business decisions. If a game is so awful that 9/10 reviews are poor, why continue to allow it to be listed? It's like Steam is becoming to games as Schlitz turned into for beers.

[Narcoleptic Marshmallow]

People invest their money and time into these games, because they want to. If 90% of a game's players don't like it, there is still that 10% that do.

I don't understand this urge people have in here to decide what strangers can or cannot enjoy.

[Do You Want A Banana?]

I love how it goes from pointing out poor business tactics to "DON'T OPPRESS ME." The point is, a business should know it's products. Or have faith in their products. They do stand behind their new refund policy, which is good, but if you have an overwhelmingly high rate of products with low ratings something should be done about it. A business isn't "MONEY MONEY MONEY NO MATTER WHAT MONEY MONEY" it's about RELIABLE INCOME. To do so, you must have customers who put their faith in what you can give and or produce. If you are putting out more crap than good, you are losing money and customers. What good does it do if someone new comes to steam, gets a game, finds it garbage, gets a refund and leaves? Especially if they tell others, as in, viewing for instance a replacement game to find a sea of negative ratings of practically every product listed?

[Reported.]

引用自 Folf Fairport：

. A business isn't "MONEY MONEY MONEY NO MATTER WHAT MONEY MONEY" it's about RELIABLE INCOME.

You are being extremely idealistic. Valve lost its indie image a long time ago. It is up there with Ubisoft and EA. Of course they care about profits. What corporation wouldn't?

[Do You Want A Banana?]

引用自 mudlord：

引用自 Folf Fairport：

. A business isn't "MONEY MONEY MONEY NO MATTER WHAT MONEY MONEY" it's about RELIABLE INCOME.

You are being extremely idealistic. Valve lost its indie image a long time ago. It is up there with Ubisoft and EA. Of course they care about profits. What corporation wouldn't?

aaand again "it's about RELIABLE INCOME. To do so, you must have customers who put their faith in what you can give and or produce. If you are putting out more crap than good, you are losing money and customers. What good does it do if someone new comes to steam, gets a game, finds it garbage, gets a refund and leaves? Especially if they tell others, as in, viewing for instance a replacement game to find a sea of negative ratings of practically every product listed?"

You are merely hanging yourself to keep a PURE profits without any sort of tact or logic behind how to MAINTAIN SAID PROFITS type of business.

In all fairness though, console games are going to ♥♥♥♥ like they were in the late 90's, I guess it makes sense computers gaming will as well.

Look at the PS4 and Xbox One. There are more "LET'S RELEASE THE SAME GAMES WE DID 10 YEARS AGO OR SOMETIME IN BETWEEN THEN" games on Gamestop shelves as opposed to actual new games. The few new games that DO come out, are completely unoriginal and aren't selling well.

Gaming is in a rutt.

[Start_Running]

引用自 Folf Fairport：

I love how it goes from pointing out poor business tactics to "DON'T OPPRESS ME." The point is, a business should know it's products. Or have faith in their products. They do stand behind their new refund policy, which is good, but if you have an overwhelmingly high rate of products with low ratings something should be done about it. A business isn't "MONEY MONEY MONEY NO MATTER WHAT MONEY MONEY" it's about RELIABLE INCOME. To do so, you must have customers who put their faith in what you can give and or produce. If you are putting out more crap than good, you are losing money and customers. What good does it do if someone new comes to steam, gets a game, finds it garbage, gets a refund and leaves? Especially if they tell others, as in, viewing for instance a replacement game to find a sea of negative ratings of practically every product listed?

Sweetie. If you want to claim it as poor busin ess practices... you'll have to bring up the accounts ledger andprove it.

[Do You Want A Banana?]

引用自 Start_Running：

引用自 Folf Fairport：

I love how it goes from pointing out poor business tactics to "DON'T OPPRESS ME." The point is, a business should know it's products. Or have faith in their products. They do stand behind their new refund policy, which is good, but if you have an overwhelmingly high rate of products with low ratings something should be done about it. A business isn't "MONEY MONEY MONEY NO MATTER WHAT MONEY MONEY" it's about RELIABLE INCOME. To do so, you must have customers who put their faith in what you can give and or produce. If you are putting out more crap than good, you are losing money and customers. What good does it do if someone new comes to steam, gets a game, finds it garbage, gets a refund and leaves? Especially if they tell others, as in, viewing for instance a replacement game to find a sea of negative ratings of practically every product listed?

Sweetie. If you want to claim it as poor busin ess practices... you'll have to bring up the accounts ledger andprove it.

/b/ is that way, Aspie. If you're going to resort to being a condescending little millenial POS, please stay with the other basement dwellers.

I have a degree in business and business economics. Tell me when you make floor shift leader at your local McDonalds.

You only need common sense to see these things regardless, FFS.

Regardless, I've seen several companies as of late destroy themselves this way. I just think it's sad that this is becoming the norm.

[Satoru]

https://galyonk.in/why-wont-steam-filter-new-games-1f247acf6d9c#.pmi4dwplb

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGCyfEYfLks

Steam knows that they cannot do that as it would hurt the market more. A single point of curation for games would be literally the worst thing for PC gaming. Any more than if Walmart was suddenly 'curating' all PC games

If you wanted steam to be an actual monopoly then sure. I don't

[Orion]

i say put the ♥♥♥♥ games in their own section and the Quality games into the main section, at least that way we can look for decent games and dont even need to bother with the ♥♥♥♥.

steam still makes their money and we dont have to deal with the headache of sifting through ♥♥♥♥ for hours on end.

[HEAVY METAL ZOMBIE]

I bought " Global Ops : Commando Libya " and had a blast playing it .

It has mostly negative reviews and people crushed it in the forums .

For $1,99 , i thought it was a fun playthrough . So i guess i bought a " feces " game .

My choice , my money .

[HEAVY METAL ZOMBIE]

引用自 Orion：

i say put the ♥♥♥♥ games in their own section and the Quality games into the main section, at least that way we can look for decent games and dont even need to bother with the ♥♥♥♥.

steam still makes their money and we dont have to deal with the headache of sifting through ♥♥♥♥ for hours on end.

No , It is a fair market on Steam .

[Orion]

引用自 HEAVY METAL ZOMBIE：

引用自 Orion：

i say put the ♥♥♥♥ games in their own section and the Quality games into the main section, at least that way we can look for decent games and dont even need to bother with the ♥♥♥♥.

steam still makes their money and we dont have to deal with the headache of sifting through ♥♥♥♥ for hours on end.

No , It is a fair market on Steam .

its still fair just that we dont need to see it, though having to view only good review or high quality games as an option, would be beneficial, still have the ♥♥♥♥ on the main section thou give us on option to sift thru it easier at least

[HEAVY METAL ZOMBIE]

I still can never see that happaning . Steam wants to give all of Developers a chance to intermingle with the high market AAA titles .

I know what i am looking for and Steam gives me ideas by letting me choose my favorite genre via the home page .

I subscribe to PC Gamer and learn about what's to come before Steam even gets a whiff of it . This helps me to know what to look for in the future .

To tell an Indie Developer that their games will be catagorized and or not be shown on the home page of Steam would be an unfair practice . Segregation is a bad idea for Steam .

Steam holds hands with all Developers as both are in the market to make money .

We all have opinions and this is just mine .

Thanks , HMZ

[Sir Seal The Slippery]

We may be alone with that viewpoint,but i agree with you folf.

Nice sugestion aswell orion.

[Ishraqiyun]

Well, when the market's flooded, prices are usually driven downwards. We're yet to see this happen on Steam (and no, don't reply telling me that there are cheap games, you need to show that RRPs for AAA games are lower).

[TokyoWifi]

A lot of these comments are putting the proverbial cart before the horse.

A logical postulate for the recent influx of poor reviews might be attributed to the Steam review system. Memes, jokes, and poor 4chan-esque recaps of gameplay tend to be the top comment, followed by tons of negative reviews, most of which don't accurately assess and critique the game in a fair way.

I think it is better to actually play some of these games - instead of believing every negative review you come across. You might find a different outcome, perspective of the game, counter to what you read about.

Remember: those who have a positive experience with a product are not as likely to leave a review as opposed to someone who had the opposite experience; therefore, we can also assume that most of the reviews are written only by a small sect of the overall community.

And to remark briefly upon this notion that poorly reviewed games should be cut from the marketplace: Steam is a games distribution service, in the same way that Amazon, eBay, and Jet are distribution services. Amazon does not remove items with horrible reviews, so why should Steam? Some of the best content moderation any consumer has lies in their ability to research a game, thoroughly, before buying it. Don't blame Steam. Don't blame good and honest devs.