Do you think the Xbox Scorpio will be comparable to high end PC's?

[Clumsybeast]

Apparently Microsoft is set on making this a very powerful consolle, and enough to play it at 4k. I am curious what my fellow PC gamers think of it, and whether Microsoft are just pulling our legs to build hype, or is this machine realllly going to deliver high end PC experience? Also if it is, what do you predict its power to be comparable to?

Halo Develloper says Scorpio is "Beefier than expected." Source: http://gamingbolt.com/xbox-scorpio-beefier-than-expected-says-halo-developer

Also if it is very powerfull, do you think it would have any affect ont he PC gaming industry? Like maybe less people will go to PC if they can buy a console that is powerful, and at a good price.

[Joe Cool]

Judging from the Xbox... the 360... and the One... umm yeah

It will be another cheaply made, over priced, under powpered, and over hyped piece of junk.

I'd also bet that the vast majority of console users don't even have 4k capable tv's..

[Plaid]

high end PC's? Heck no.

[Coffinmaw]

Consoles have never been able to outperform a high end gaming computer (right out of the box), and they most likely never will. Will it be able to run 4k? Sure, I don't see why it couldn't. But 4k to me is just another high-end tech gimmick. I'll pass, thank you.

[Lusus Symphonia]

It may be able to push out a steady 1440p resolution if they are waiting for the hardware to go down in price and it'll out perform the PS4pro but it won't have 60fps at 1440p.
PS4pro is 1080p upscaled to 4k resolution to the uneducated that think PS4 can actually run a resolution that high end PC's struggle to run.

You get what you pay for, if scorpio comes out and can run 1440p at 60fps, expect the console to sell for £600+

[Hex]

Well... recently Microsoft dropped a few jobs and said "your no longer needed," so the company we love is making some changes... for better or worse the company and the windows users will get through it... I think any PC gamer that actually has the money to play games how they want on their own rig (like myself) does not care about the consoles... so if the console "master-race" gets started great, but PC is and always will be better...


So no PC is better... but Im sure everyone saw that coming

[ろらｴ]

"Consoles have never been able to out-perform a high-end computer." Incorrect. The PS2 and PS1 were much more powerful than anything available on the PC market at the time, and Nvidia themselves even admit to this.

The Xbox 360 was actually extremely powerful for it's time, matching the current generation of Nvidia's highest-end GPUs that were available when the Xbox 360 came out. It took a new generation of GPUs a year or so later for PCs to get ahead again.

These days, the console companies don't have as much of a grasp on the technology industry as they used to, and the companies that produce tech like AMD and Nvidia are money super giants now compared to what they used to be (which is why console companies had such a monopoly on tech) and they're all focused on the PC platform now, where they make the most money, with consoles being nothing but side-projects to them which is why modern consoles can never surpass a high-end modern PC.

[Dodece]

I suppose that would depend entirely upon your own definition of high end, and more importantly your specific frame of reference. As in competitive with which high end. The high end we have now, or the high end we will have in eight to nine months. I personally think it might be capable of matching mid range systems. Which frankly enough can actually do ultra high definition right now. Not necessarily to this markets standards, but it would be in line with console standards.

We have to remember that for that market hitting sixty frames per second isn't a must. All that is required for that market is to hit a consistent thirty. Something that the venerable nine seventy is fully capable of achieving. I mean if Microsoft can't even match that performance with the prices having come down since the nine seventies launch then they have some serious problem in their gaming division. Which isn't entirely unthinkable given recent trends in the industry.

Consoles used to be more competitive due to their loss lead strategies. The manufacturer sold the hardware at a loss starting out, and then made back the money through licensing, the sale of accessories, and later on the selling of subscription services. Something every console maker as of late has gotten away from. Currently every console of this generation was sold at a profit. As it costed them less to make then they sold it for. Requiring them to use less then ideal parts.

Simply put if Microsoft doesn't loss lead their new console, and it has a price that is somewhat reasonable. Then they are going to struggle with even hitting mid range performance. However if they do the opposite it could probably hold its own with a rig that costs a couple hundred dollars more.

[Clumsybeast]

Publicado originalmente por Dodece:

I suppose that would depend entirely upon your own definition of high end, and more importantly your specific frame of reference. As in competitive with which high end. The high end we have now, or the high end we will have in eight to nine months. I personally think it might be capable of matching mid range systems. Which frankly enough can actually do ultra high definition right now. Not necessarily to this markets standards, but it would be in line with console standards.

We have to remember that for that market hitting sixty frames per second isn't a must. All that is required for that market is to hit a consistent thirty. Something that the venerable nine seventy is fully capable of achieving. I mean if Microsoft can't even match that performance with the prices having come down since the nine seventies launch then they have some serious problem in their gaming division. Which isn't entirely unthinkable given recent trends in the industry.

Consoles used to be more competitive due to their loss lead strategies. The manufacturer sold the hardware at a loss starting out, and then made back the money through licensing, the sale of accessories, and later on the selling of subscription services. Something every console maker as of late has gotten away from. Currently every console of this generation was sold at a profit. As it costed them less to make then they sold it for. Requiring them to use less then ideal parts.

Simply put if Microsoft doesn't loss lead their new console, and it has a price that is somewhat reasonable. Then they are going to struggle with even hitting mid range performance. However if they do the opposite it could probably hold its own with a rig that costs a couple hundred dollars more.

So you don't think it will be anywhere near the performance of something like the GTX 1070?

[Scar]

Publicado originalmente por Clumsyninja:

Publicado originalmente por Dodece:

I suppose that would depend entirely upon your own definition of high end, and more importantly your specific frame of reference. As in competitive with which high end. The high end we have now, or the high end we will have in eight to nine months. I personally think it might be capable of matching mid range systems. Which frankly enough can actually do ultra high definition right now. Not necessarily to this markets standards, but it would be in line with console standards.

We have to remember that for that market hitting sixty frames per second isn't a must. All that is required for that market is to hit a consistent thirty. Something that the venerable nine seventy is fully capable of achieving. I mean if Microsoft can't even match that performance with the prices having come down since the nine seventies launch then they have some serious problem in their gaming division. Which isn't entirely unthinkable given recent trends in the industry.

Consoles used to be more competitive due to their loss lead strategies. The manufacturer sold the hardware at a loss starting out, and then made back the money through licensing, the sale of accessories, and later on the selling of subscription services. Something every console maker as of late has gotten away from. Currently every console of this generation was sold at a profit. As it costed them less to make then they sold it for. Requiring them to use less then ideal parts.

Simply put if Microsoft doesn't loss lead their new console, and it has a price that is somewhat reasonable. Then they are going to struggle with even hitting mid range performance. However if they do the opposite it could probably hold its own with a rig that costs a couple hundred dollars more.

So you don't think it will be anywhere near the performance of something like the GTX 1070?

If it has the similar power as an GTX 1080 or Titan then yes.....this IS high-end.

[Pizmo]

Asking PC gamers what they think about a console is about as pointless as asking a Nazi what they think about Jews. You are only going to get one answer "we hate them all. No exceptions!".

I highly doubt that this console is going to perform on par with a mid/high range gaming PC. Even if it does, PC gamers will still hate it. They will search every corner of Google to find any reason (no matter how insignificant) to slam this console.

[Autistic Whales]

It doesnt really matter, I personally dont believe graphics is why I would buy a console ir a pc.
I buy them for differences. I prefer more controll so I get a pc. I like strategy so I get a pc. I like digital art do I get a pc. I like old games so I get a pc. I prefer M+KB over controllers so I get a pc.
Graphics or how well it runs doesnt matter to me if its playable, I would rather have games that I like to play than better graphics.
Consoles will never be as flexable or "as good" as a pc. I believe there would be a market for a console which only has older games or games in the style of older games. It would allow for much cheaper games and the actual console and has a different variety of games to pc it would be more worth it imo.
I believe the fatal flaw of consoles is that they are trying to compete and beat the more flexable and powerfull option when they could do something creative and have different games to have very little competition.

[MoonharePanda]

After what happened to the fate of Scalebound, I'm never touching another console created by Microsoft ever again. :P

[Plaid]

Publicado originalmente por Pizmo:

Asking PC gamers what they think about a console is about as pointless as asking a Nazi what they think about Jews. You are only going to get one answer "we hate them all. No exceptions!".

I highly doubt that this console is going to perform on par with a mid/high range gaming PC. Even if it does, PC gamers will still hate it. They will search every corner of Google to find any reason (no matter how insignificant) to slam this console.

Well, I am going to laugh when my buddy ends up spending almost a grand on console hardware before the generation is through... There goes his last argument against PC gaming.
(actually it would be more than a grand, with his hard drives and elite controllers)

That would be understandable if he weren't such a fanboy and all that money wasn't going to one company.

[cherishjfk]

Many people forget that consoles were made as a cheaper alternative to good gaming PCs. So expecting them to be on par is a bit too much

[Yuki]

no. we will be always faster than them.