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Most greedy company
What do you think is the most greedy game corporation, company, studio etc.

For me might have to be Valve :steamsalty: or EA.
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Messaggio originale di MollyMo:
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Do you mean their 24 hour refund policy, their excellent support team, or Titanfall 2's free season pass and 50% sale just a month after release? So far, you've just denied all of those. "I'll be the first to praise them..."
Messaggio originale di Moss:
Messaggio originale di MollyMo:
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Do you mean their 24 hour refund policy, their excellent support team, or Titanfall 2's free season pass and 50% sale just a month after release? So far, you've just denied all of those. "I'll be the first to praise them..."

24 hour refund policy except it takes more than that to download a game lol. Excellent support team exists only in your dreams, and cherry picking a single game with a christmas sale is far from representing the general rule with EA.

SimCity massive server crash or something. BF4 most broken mess of a game ever when it launched. After many failed patches they set up the <<CTE>>, they basically used the players' frustration to force them into working for Dice, for free. ME3 proper ending sold as dlc, live support by subhuman creatures who often not only won't provide help, but are barely able to form sentences that make sense.

Why don't you crawl back under your rock, please?
Well, look at that. Your so-called rationality was BS. I'm shocked.

It [Great Game Guarantee] is actually 48 hours and no questions asked, and Valve took more than a year to put in their own system (which also isn't without faults). Steam Support is infamous while the "sub-humans" you continue to insult on EA's support team have helped me with multiple situations (including a retail copy of Crysis that wouldn't launch) and many complaints I've reported about Origin have actually been improved in updates. Not to mention, Origin supports playing games halfway through their installation, while Steam tried that once with MKX and it was an unparalleled disaster.
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Messaggio originale di Fusion:
Messaggio originale di MollyMo:

24 hour refund policy except it takes more than that to download a game lol. Excellent support team exists only in your dreams, and cherry picking a single game with a christmas sale is far from representing the general rule with EA.

SimCity massive server crash or something. BF4 most broken mess of a game ever when it launched. After many failed patches they set up the <<CTE>>, they basically used the players' frustration to force them into working for Dice, for free. ME3 proper ending sold as dlc, live support by subhuman creatures who often not only won't provide help, but are barely able to form sentences that make sense.

Why don't you crawl back under your rock, please?
1. Whats your download rate?
2. You never actually refuted his argument. How much experience do you even have dealing with their support team?
3. Not so much cherry-picking as finding evidence that goes against you.

Overall you're completely contradicting yourself here. You're not fair sided and you wouldn't be the first to praise them for any good thing they do. You're biased and you don't even have the self awareness to accept it.


It's slow internet, takes me a day to download, say, a 30 gb game, often more.
Lots of experience. Battlefield and origin issues. Random disconnects, account in use, unable to connect to servers, constant crashes, extremely low fps for no reason and the problems never stop. Their advice never fixed a single issue for me.

You mention one game that received a sale shortly after release due to Christmas. If that's what you consider evidence, please never, ever, work as a judge. You refuse to aknowledge even the worst things EA has done yet you talk about fair sided. I'm not fair sided but you're a damn fanboy.
Messaggio originale di Moss:
Well, look at that. Your so-called rationality was BS. I'm shocked.

It [Great Game Guarantee] is actually 48 hours and no questions asked, and Valve took more than a year to put in their own system (which also isn't without faults). Steam Support is infamous while the "sub-humans" you continue to insult on EA's support team have helped me with multiple situations (including a retail copy of Crysis that wouldn't launch) and many complaints I've reported about Origin have actually been improved in updates. Not to mention, Origin supports playing games halfway through their installation, while Steam tried that once with MKX and it was an unparalleled disaster.
Try getting a refund from EA, i dare you. Many have tried, many have failed. EA's support probably helped you because your issues were pathetically easy to solve. That doesn't make them anything close to useful. A simple google search will provide you with the truth that's so hard for you to believe. Origin lets you play games before installation is complete? And uplay does what, exactly? Origin is the worst popular platform to date. The worst.
Messaggio originale di MollyMo:
Messaggio originale di Fusion:
1. Whats your download rate?
2. You never actually refuted his argument. How much experience do you even have dealing with their support team?
3. Not so much cherry-picking as finding evidence that goes against you.

Overall you're completely contradicting yourself here. You're not fair sided and you wouldn't be the first to praise them for any good thing they do. You're biased and you don't even have the self awareness to accept it.


It's slow internet, takes me a day to download, say, a 30 gb game, often more.
Lots of experience. Battlefield and origin issues. Random disconnects, account in use, unable to connect to servers, constant crashes, extremely low fps for no reason and the problems never stop. Their advice never fixed a single issue for me.

You mention one game that received a sale shortly after release due to Christmas. If that's what you consider evidence, please never, ever, work as a judge. You refuse to aknowledge even the worst things EA has done yet you talk about fair sided. I'm not fair sided but you're a damn fanboy.
I mentioned it because you made a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ statement about price gouging when Crysis 3 is $10 and DA Inquisition has been $20 for half a year.

I have gotten a refund, Crysis 3 when I bought it on sale and my crappy turd of a computer couldn't run it. It worked perfectly. Here's my question, did YOU try to get a refund at any point?
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Messaggio originale di Moss:
Messaggio originale di MollyMo:


It's slow internet, takes me a day to download, say, a 30 gb game, often more.
Lots of experience. Battlefield and origin issues. Random disconnects, account in use, unable to connect to servers, constant crashes, extremely low fps for no reason and the problems never stop. Their advice never fixed a single issue for me.

You mention one game that received a sale shortly after release due to Christmas. If that's what you consider evidence, please never, ever, work as a judge. You refuse to aknowledge even the worst things EA has done yet you talk about fair sided. I'm not fair sided but you're a damn fanboy.
I mentioned it because you made a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ statement about price gouging when Crysis 3 is $10 and DA Inquisition has been $20 for half a year.

I have gotten a refund, Crysis 3 when I bought it on sale and my crappy turd of a computer couldn't run it. It worked perfectly. Here's my question, did YOU try to get a refund at any point?
No, boy i didn't. I'm not dumb enough to buy through origin like a mindless sheep. I would tell you how friends of my own have been refused a refund WITHIN the time stated, but you're just gonna ignore it. So go ahead and bow before EA for materializing such a great innovation no one else ever though of, anywhere. A refund policy. Meanwhile every new game is 60€ or more without the Christmas sale.
Messaggio originale di MollyMo:
Messaggio originale di First&Only:
(£60 or 70 for FiFIA 17 Ultimate last year?!) When just about every other game comes in at £45 and under on consoles and cheaper on PC they are laughing
Forgot to mention this, EA charges, for example, $60/60€/£60 for a game because currency isn't a word in their vocabulary.

Agreed - and besides what do people expect when this game company is responsible for making a game version of a massively overpriced / overpaid and underperforming sports industry. To the credit of EA (eugh i feel sick typing that) at least they are replicating the cost of these sports in real life into the digital medium
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Messaggio originale di SuperJr45:
Apple and EA
Yes. I hate EA with all my heart, and iPhone 7.
Messaggio originale di MollyMo:
Zefar im too tired with your nonsense to make another complete reply for you to ignore, so im gonna keep it as tl;dr as possible.


1. Hating EA is a thing, because they've done lots to get there. It's not all bad, more of a 90:10 ratio bad to good. They deserve every bit of hate, though, and when they do something praise-worthy, ill be the very first to praise them.
Nope, you and most other EA haters are just unreasonable. As proven in this topic.

Messaggio originale di MollyMo:
2. It's what you've heard versus what i've experienced (I and my bf mates) first hand, multiple times. What you've heard is basically worthless in this case. EA support can't even be called that.
Yet you still do business with them?
But there is still the fact that I've heard more positive things about EA support than Steam support.

Messaggio originale di MollyMo:
3. Lots of games have deluxe, super deluxe, hurr durr ultimate ultra deluxe versions, many of which offer a couple more "battlepacks" and camos, for an additional 10€ or more. You're just dumb if you go for that.

You're being quite childish now. Here's how it goes.

Base game = Just the base game and nothing more.
Deluxe Edition = Get access to some extra guns quicker and gets to play the first DLC released 7 days early.
Ultimate Edition = Base game and Premium.

That's it. It isn't hard to understand. Yes you can buy battlepack for some of the BF games but you really don't need to. For BF3 and BF4 there are a lot quick access packs you can buy if you don't want to level your character.

Messaggio originale di MollyMo:
4. Everything in the deluxe editions is included in the "premium" membership, which if you decide to buy, you'll essentially be paying twice for the same things.
You only get the first DLC not all of the DLC in Deluxe.

Messaggio originale di MollyMo:
5. I'm literally looking at the prices right now and they're the same number across 3 currencies (british pound, usd, euro).
So? Steam did this for ages before they finally changed but then Developers got in charge and it was turned back to that.

Messaggio originale di MollyMo:
6. So everyone's wrong, but you are correct because "the game is just fine". No.
They are wrong. Battlefront gameplay is just fine and there is a lot of fun in it.

Messaggio originale di MollyMo:
7. The difference between bf1's weapons is their name and little else. Same gun with a different attachment counts as a brand new gun now.
There is enough difference because they are suited for different ranges.

Messaggio originale di MollyMo:
8. People asked for ww1, not for an empty game. They tried to compensate for the lack of content by making each class has its own xp progress. After you unlock the guns, which you do in roughly a couple dozen hours, there is no reason to level up, unless you care about those barely visible ugly skins.

Once again if they got a true WW1 we would have even less content. That means, no tanks, no vehicles, no planes, no SMGs, no LMGs to carry, no heavy armor pickup, no bombers, no zeppelins, no uber train and most grenades would be gone.

DICE added as much as they could to the game but they are working with WW1 and that era does not have much variation.


Messaggio originale di MollyMo:
9. Plants vs Zombies is indie. Call it successful, call it the best game in existence, all that matters is that its indie.

Indie games are SELF PUBLISHED games from small studios. Plants vs Zombies are published by EA a gaming giant and has a large development team for the game. It's not an Indie game anymore. Also calling it indie game doesn't exactly make your point valid.

Messaggio originale di MollyMo:
Drm probably cost more than the actual game. They need to make that money back and have a gain. Therefore you pay higher price for a game they didnt work that hard for. Learn how it works.
I looked at the game and it would cost me $9 and it was on sale. Before that it was like $20 and it's about average.


Messaggio originale di MollyMo:
10. You have truly no valid points. Does EA get a few things right? Maybe. But origin sucks, their prices suck, their games lack content which is sold through dlc and should be in the base game, customer support is absent and none of these is my opinion. Proof: EA being voted worst company of America, TWICE.

Either come back with something actual or suck it up and leave.

You have not posted any proof of anything. You're just spewing hate and can't handle an argument without insulting people which is why you're banned.
The vote for worst company is not a good measurement because it got rigged the moment gamers saw it.

Origin itself works just as fine as Steam does. It does certain things better like detecting games when you move them.

Their games do not lack content and the DLC to BF3 and BF4 proves this because it adds twice the amount of content to the game. Something any previous BF game could just dream about.
Messaggio originale di Zefar:
Messaggio originale di MollyMo:
Zefar im too tired with your nonsense to make another complete reply for you to ignore, so im gonna keep it as tl;dr as possible.


1. Hating EA is a thing, because they've done lots to get there. It's not all bad, more of a 90:10 ratio bad to good. They deserve every bit of hate, though, and when they do something praise-worthy, ill be the very first to praise them.
Nope, you and most other EA haters are just unreasonable. As proven in this topic.

Messaggio originale di MollyMo:
2. It's what you've heard versus what i've experienced (I and my bf mates) first hand, multiple times. What you've heard is basically worthless in this case. EA support can't even be called that.
Yet you still do business with them?
But there is still the fact that I've heard more positive things about EA support than Steam support.

Messaggio originale di MollyMo:
3. Lots of games have deluxe, super deluxe, hurr durr ultimate ultra deluxe versions, many of which offer a couple more "battlepacks" and camos, for an additional 10€ or more. You're just dumb if you go for that.

You're being quite childish now. Here's how it goes.

Base game = Just the base game and nothing more.
Deluxe Edition = Get access to some extra guns quicker and gets to play the first DLC released 7 days early.
Ultimate Edition = Base game and Premium.

That's it. It isn't hard to understand. Yes you can buy battlepack for some of the BF games but you really don't need to. For BF3 and BF4 there are a lot quick access packs you can buy if you don't want to level your character.

Messaggio originale di MollyMo:
4. Everything in the deluxe editions is included in the "premium" membership, which if you decide to buy, you'll essentially be paying twice for the same things.
You only get the first DLC not all of the DLC in Deluxe.

Messaggio originale di MollyMo:
5. I'm literally looking at the prices right now and they're the same number across 3 currencies (british pound, usd, euro).
So? Steam did this for ages before they finally changed but then Developers got in charge and it was turned back to that.

Messaggio originale di MollyMo:
6. So everyone's wrong, but you are correct because "the game is just fine". No.
They are wrong. Battlefront gameplay is just fine and there is a lot of fun in it.

Messaggio originale di MollyMo:
7. The difference between bf1's weapons is their name and little else. Same gun with a different attachment counts as a brand new gun now.
There is enough difference because they are suited for different ranges.

Messaggio originale di MollyMo:
8. People asked for ww1, not for an empty game. They tried to compensate for the lack of content by making each class has its own xp progress. After you unlock the guns, which you do in roughly a couple dozen hours, there is no reason to level up, unless you care about those barely visible ugly skins.

Once again if they got a true WW1 we would have even less content. That means, no tanks, no vehicles, no planes, no SMGs, no LMGs to carry, no heavy armor pickup, no bombers, no zeppelins, no uber train and most grenades would be gone.

DICE added as much as they could to the game but they are working with WW1 and that era does not have much variation.


Messaggio originale di MollyMo:
9. Plants vs Zombies is indie. Call it successful, call it the best game in existence, all that matters is that its indie.

Indie games are SELF PUBLISHED games from small studios. Plants vs Zombies are published by EA a gaming giant and has a large development team for the game. It's not an Indie game anymore. Also calling it indie game doesn't exactly make your point valid.

Messaggio originale di MollyMo:
Drm probably cost more than the actual game. They need to make that money back and have a gain. Therefore you pay higher price for a game they didnt work that hard for. Learn how it works.
I looked at the game and it would cost me $9 and it was on sale. Before that it was like $20 and it's about average.


Messaggio originale di MollyMo:
10. You have truly no valid points. Does EA get a few things right? Maybe. But origin sucks, their prices suck, their games lack content which is sold through dlc and should be in the base game, customer support is absent and none of these is my opinion. Proof: EA being voted worst company of America, TWICE.

Either come back with something actual or suck it up and leave.

You have not posted any proof of anything. You're just spewing hate and can't handle an argument without insulting people which is why you're banned.
The vote for worst company is not a good measurement because it got rigged the moment gamers saw it.

Origin itself works just as fine as Steam does. It does certain things better like detecting games when you move them.

Their games do not lack content and the DLC to BF3 and BF4 proves this because it adds twice the amount of content to the game. Something any previous BF game could just dream about.
Why are Ea haters unreasonable?
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Messaggio originale di Zefar:
Why are Ea haters unreasonable?
There's disagreement and such, those who distrust and despise EA for good reasons. "Haters" are a different brand, they slam anything and everything and try to twist anything into a tangent of how bad they are... to an obsessive extent. When you go as far as calling their support team "sub-human" and insulting them for something you've never actually tried yourself, you've crossed the line by a good four miles.
Messaggio originale di Zefar:
Messaggio originale di MollyMo:
Either come back with something actual or suck it up and leave.

You have not posted any proof of anything. You're just spewing hate and can't handle an argument without insulting people which is why you're banned.
I'm sorry, but... that was a proper roast. DAYUM.
#dontf***withmods :2016roasted:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPXkjtpGCFI
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Messaggio originale di Zefar:
Messaggio originale di MollyMo:
Zefar im too tired with your nonsense to make another complete reply for you to ignore, so im gonna keep it as tl;dr as possible.


1. Hating EA is a thing, because they've done lots to get there. It's not all bad, more of a 90:10 ratio bad to good. They deserve every bit of hate, though, and when they do something praise-worthy, ill be the very first to praise them.
Nope, you and most other EA haters are just unreasonable. As proven in this topic.

Messaggio originale di MollyMo:
2. It's what you've heard versus what i've experienced (I and my bf mates) first hand, multiple times. What you've heard is basically worthless in this case. EA support can't even be called that.
Yet you still do business with them?
But there is still the fact that I've heard more positive things about EA support than Steam support.

Messaggio originale di MollyMo:
3. Lots of games have deluxe, super deluxe, hurr durr ultimate ultra deluxe versions, many of which offer a couple more "battlepacks" and camos, for an additional 10€ or more. You're just dumb if you go for that.

You're being quite childish now. Here's how it goes.

Base game = Just the base game and nothing more.
Deluxe Edition = Get access to some extra guns quicker and gets to play the first DLC released 7 days early.
Ultimate Edition = Base game and Premium.

That's it. It isn't hard to understand. Yes you can buy battlepack for some of the BF games but you really don't need to. For BF3 and BF4 there are a lot quick access packs you can buy if you don't want to level your character.

Messaggio originale di MollyMo:
4. Everything in the deluxe editions is included in the "premium" membership, which if you decide to buy, you'll essentially be paying twice for the same things.
You only get the first DLC not all of the DLC in Deluxe.

Messaggio originale di MollyMo:
5. I'm literally looking at the prices right now and they're the same number across 3 currencies (british pound, usd, euro).
So? Steam did this for ages before they finally changed but then Developers got in charge and it was turned back to that.

Messaggio originale di MollyMo:
6. So everyone's wrong, but you are correct because "the game is just fine". No.
They are wrong. Battlefront gameplay is just fine and there is a lot of fun in it.

Messaggio originale di MollyMo:
7. The difference between bf1's weapons is their name and little else. Same gun with a different attachment counts as a brand new gun now.
There is enough difference because they are suited for different ranges.

Messaggio originale di MollyMo:
8. People asked for ww1, not for an empty game. They tried to compensate for the lack of content by making each class has its own xp progress. After you unlock the guns, which you do in roughly a couple dozen hours, there is no reason to level up, unless you care about those barely visible ugly skins.

Once again if they got a true WW1 we would have even less content. That means, no tanks, no vehicles, no planes, no SMGs, no LMGs to carry, no heavy armor pickup, no bombers, no zeppelins, no uber train and most grenades would be gone.

DICE added as much as they could to the game but they are working with WW1 and that era does not have much variation.


Messaggio originale di MollyMo:
9. Plants vs Zombies is indie. Call it successful, call it the best game in existence, all that matters is that its indie.

Indie games are SELF PUBLISHED games from small studios. Plants vs Zombies are published by EA a gaming giant and has a large development team for the game. It's not an Indie game anymore. Also calling it indie game doesn't exactly make your point valid.

Messaggio originale di MollyMo:
Drm probably cost more than the actual game. They need to make that money back and have a gain. Therefore you pay higher price for a game they didnt work that hard for. Learn how it works.
I looked at the game and it would cost me $9 and it was on sale. Before that it was like $20 and it's about average.


Messaggio originale di MollyMo:
10. You have truly no valid points. Does EA get a few things right? Maybe. But origin sucks, their prices suck, their games lack content which is sold through dlc and should be in the base game, customer support is absent and none of these is my opinion. Proof: EA being voted worst company of America, TWICE.

Either come back with something actual or suck it up and leave.

You have not posted any proof of anything. You're just spewing hate and can't handle an argument without insulting people which is why you're banned.
The vote for worst company is not a good measurement because it got rigged the moment gamers saw it.

Origin itself works just as fine as Steam does. It does certain things better like detecting games when you move them.

Their games do not lack content and the DLC to BF3 and BF4 proves this because it adds twice the amount of content to the game. Something any previous BF game could just dream about.
I really hope MollyMo did some stuff on another thread because on here they havent exactly "insulted" anyone...
there's so many Microsoft Nvidia Apple then you have the banks plus the 25 Most Vicious Iraq War Profiteers.....i simply can't choose
I forget which game it was. thing has like $5000 worth of DLC. Like ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
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